Something that came up in conversation with a gay friend recently, are there any examples of men obviously singing love songs for men, or the female equivelent, on the soul scene?

I can't think of any at all, but I thought I'd ask the brains trust on here...

Can't think of any - would have struggled through the 60s - Jackie Shane was daring as a cross-dressing singer, but his lyrics could all be classed as 'hetero'

First openly 'Gay' record i can think of was Valentino - I Was Born This Way - Gaiee , but that isn't a love song...

Little Richard

Something that came up in conversation with a gay friend recently.....

Bet that pleased him...

Little Richard

Which songs admit to his sexuality though? That's the stumbling block, there were a few known gay singers but for the life of us we can't think of any examples of songs that show it.

Bet that pleased him...

Her, so sadly not!

thought for a minute this was another one of Barry's posts

Carl Bean, Billy Griffin, Sharon Redd

Carl Bean, Billy Griffin, Sharon Redd

Billy thinks I'm hot btw

barry billy griffin gay? who knew? just did a pink search on google didnt find anything..... so it was billy that took them to the gay bar in aint nobody straight in l.a!

barry billy griffin gay? who knew? just did a pink search on google didnt find anything..... so it was billy that took them to the gay bar in aint nobody straight in l.a!

We put Billy on @ The Carlton in Warrington late 80's, still drop him the odd line on FB - lovely bloke.

We put Billy on @ The Carlton in Warrington late 80's, still drop him the odd line on FB - lovely bloke.

get you and yer 'Pink-Search' haha

Billy thinks I'm hot btw

barry everyone thinks youre hot, i know i do, i was going to add a smiley but i wont so youll never know...........

barry everyone thinks youre hot, i know i do, i was going to add a smiley but i wont so youll never know...........

Sizzling - that's me........are you pissed?

Bobby Jonz - Thought You Were Loving Me

Took me a while to get it but he is singing about his girl sleeping with another woman.

If you didn't know that - give it another listen, it puts a whole new spin on it.

"What did she do, that IIIII couldn't do?"

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Sizzling - that's me........are you pissed?

no barry just loved up!

i think some people used to think free man south shore commission was a gay song as something is said in there[anyone remember the line?] but i think its because people thought they were an all male group.

We as humans all sing the same.

Phyliss Hyman and Joan Armatrading.. Couple of rug munchers.. I heard breaking up was why Phyliss killed herself.

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Check the Manflu post Pat.

Bobby Jonz - Thought You Were Loving Me

Took me a while to get it but he is singing about his girl sleeping with another woman.

Yes that's right it was controversial at the time it turned up 85.

Another one: Babara Mason "Another man"

Yes that's right it was controversial at the time it turned up 85.

Another one: Babara Mason "Another man"

Good shout....should have had that one down Steve

I wasn't really concerned about the sexuality of the singer, more about the topic of the song itself. I'm sure there are hundreds of GLTS singers, but very few songs. Thanks for the suggestions though, I'll put them forward.

Phyliss Hyman and Joan Armatrading.. Couple of rug munchers.. I heard breaking up was why Phyliss killed herself.

I believe from what I read in B&S at the time Tony that Phyllis killed herself due to a clinical depression brought on from her height.

yes another man should have been the first one that we thought of, and thinking about it there was the answer record too

Tout Sweet - Another Man Is Twice As Nice

https://youtu.be/M4jHucjDXsc

Denise LaSalle - My Toot Toot??

Conny Van Dyke

Sylvester, Luther Van Dross, Linda Tillery. Just substitute the he's and she's in the lyrics and they are singing gay songs. Who's to know and who cares?

Something that came up in conversation with a gay friend recently, are there any examples of men obviously singing love songs for men, or the female equivelent, on the soul scene?

I can't think of any at all, but I thought I'd ask the brains trust on here...

I dont know any Gay singers,but Ive sh@@ed a bloke that does LOL

Tons of them, very few openly though. Luther Vandross was not openly gay, just rumored to be.

The most notable ones not mentioned in this thread are Tony Washington of the Dynamic Superiors and Keith Barrow.

I'm pretty sure "rug muncher" is not an endearing / positive term. Please leave offensive slurs out of the thread. Thanks.

Dusty Springfield, Madeline Bell....

Again, it's about the songs.

Again, it's about the songs.

There is pretty much a tradition of gay male singers singing about females, even if the singer is openly gay. To find references in songs you're more likely to find what some people have already talked about, which is people singing about their partner leaving them for someone of the same sex. Those are usually not pro-gay songs even though the subject material is more explicitly gay.

I'm pretty sure "rug muncher" is not an endearing / positive term. Please leave offensive slurs out of the thread. Thanks.

Got to say Bob, I can hear the giggling at the back of the class as you make this request.

Jordi

Always thought Jimi Hendrix"purple haze"was a gay anthem.."scuse me while I kiss this guy"

David Lasley from the Utopias and 100s of record appearances - I think he's recorded some stuff with pretty obvious gay theme, although I don't know how 'soul' he is considered despite his group cutting a legendary rare northern soul record.

David Lasley from the Utopias and 100s of record appearances - I think he's recorded some stuff with pretty obvious gay theme, although I don't know how 'soul' he is considered despite his group cutting a legendary rare northern soul record.

is he the dude on philly groove? I still need a stock copy of that since the promo is a mono/stereo

Not exactly Soul per se, but there was Monti Rock III. I don't know if he ever sang about two men in love, because I didn't like his singing enough to listen enough to hear the lyrics. What about Tiny Tim? I only remember him singing standards.

There's speculation that the Jaynetts 'Sally Go Round The Roses' is coded lesbian song.

Phyliss Hyman and Joan Armatrading.. Couple of rug munchers.. I heard breaking up was why Phyliss killed herself.

Phyliss Hyman swung both ways. Her biography if you can get one is a great read.

Always thought Jimi Hendrix"purple haze"was a gay anthem.."scuse me while I kiss this guy"

ffs Chas av just splurted coffee all over my keyboard

ffs Chas av just splurted coffee all over my keyboard

Oops!

We put Billy on @ The Carlton in Warrington late 80's, still drop him the odd line on FB - lovely bloke.

Hey Barry,

The big 'C' in the sky.

Know it well, spent many an evening up there, big bad Brian Rae spinning the discs.

Good soul/funk nights too, Mike Shaft in the 80's too I seem to remember.

But other than soul nights, what a den of inequity on the weekend.

Wonder where Derek the owner is these days?

Aid.

Hey Barry,

The big 'C' in the sky.

Know it well, spent many an evening up there, big bad Brian Rae spinning the discs.

Good soul/funk nights too, Mike Shaft in the 80's too I seem to remember.

But other than soul nights, what a den of inequity on the weekend.

Wonder where Derek the owner is these days?

Aid.

Fuertaventura as it happens fella haha.

Derek bought a bar out there when the council hounded him out of The Carlton in the early 90's.

I used to see Dek and jan's daughter for years - he was over about four year back and stayed at ours, was great to chew the fat - he's fine.

Fuertaventura as it happens fella haha.

Derek bought a bar out there when the council hounded him out of The Carlton in the early 90's.

I used to see Dek and jan's daughter for years - he was over about four year back and stayed at ours, was great to chew the fat - he's fine.

Great days Barry, especially when I think of the nights with Brian Rae, he would spin anything for us, used to get a lift home with him & mither him to death every week about records, he lived right by me near Penketh.

Remember The Three Degree performing live, spoke to Shelia Ferguson that night, I was starstruck.

Aid.

Great days Barry, especially when I think of the nights with Brian Rae, he would spin anything for us, used to get a lift home with him & mither him to death every week about records, he lived right by me near Penketh.

Remember The Three Degree performing live, spoke to Shelia Ferguson that night, I was starstruck.

Aid.

Ha ha that was my 21st birthday treat from Kev and Dek - great night, Sheila tried to tap Kev up at one point.

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Carlton Membership is the big gold Mother at the top

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Carlton Membership is the big gold Mother at the top

Brilliant, happy days, remember Spot Watman & Lappo on the doors?

And Maxine behind the bar??

I was in there one Walking Day & it kicked off, it was like the wild west, really really much worse than anything I'd ever seen at a footie match, total mayhem! Nothing to do with the soul night, this was a 'normal' day.

Aid.

Brilliant, happy days, remember Spot Watman & Lappo on the doors?

And Maxine behind the bar??

I was in there one Walking Day & it kicked off, it was like the wild west, really really much worse than anything I'd ever seen at a footie match, total mayhem! Nothing to do with the soul night, this was a 'normal' day.

Aid.

Lappo, f*** me yeah - it was a rough old gaff in the week....but then so was the whole of Warrington at the time ay?