Frankie and the Classicals

[Ageing Face]

Hi All,

I’m considering buying a few records one of which is What Shall I Do by Frankie and the Classicals on. White Calla label. 

I’m being advised by the guy selling them that the track is a demo & he’s pointed me to a Discogs listing showing it as a legitimate release, whereas 45 Cat has it as a bootleg. Also I thought the Calla demo was blue & white?

He’s asking legit copy prices, so I’d appreciate some pointers

Thanks in advance 

[The Yank]

I know discogs has the promo as legitimate but, I have my doubts. I've seen the white and blue label promos and the regular white and red label promos but not a white label. I can't remember seeing any other white label Calla promos either. 

    Anyone else ??

[Chalky]

3 minutes ago, The Yank said:

I know discogs has the promo as legitimate but, I have my doubts. I've seen the white and blue label promos and the regular white and red label promos but not a white label. I can't remember seeing any other white label Calla promos either. 

    Anyone else ??

Like you I have my doubts, no engineer initials which with them being on the issue you'd expect on the promo....I guess?  Don't recall seeing a white promo for other Calla releases either

[Chalky]

The whole label print looks iffy, different font, off centre etc

[Tomangoes]

Why not like this?

 

Ed

[Ageing Face]

7 minutes ago, Chalky said:

The whole label print looks iffy, different font, off centre etc

Doesn’t look like £95’s worth?

[Theothertosspot]

19 minutes ago, Chalky said:

Like you I have my doubts, no engineer initials which with them being on the issue you'd expect on the promo....I guess?  Don't recall seeing a white promo for other Calla releases either

There is this one, a repress in 73 for Northern demand. 

[Chalky]

18 minutes ago, Theothertosspot said:

There is this one, a repress in 73 for Northern demand. 

I mean a 60s one

[The Yank]

15 minutes ago, Chalky said:

I mean a 60s one

     I meant the same thing- I should have said a white label promo with the curved Calla logo ! The 70's promos have the straight across Calla logo.

Edited January 2, 2022 by The Yank

[Geeselad]

Some of the Jamaican issues on calla look iffy but are authentic. Wonky lettering ect, think they did some green and red ones? 

[Ageing Face]

10 minutes ago, Geeselad said:

Some of the Jamaican issues on calla look iffy but are authentic. Wonky lettering ect, think they did some green and red ones? 

 

Could the white issue be Jamaican?

[Chalky]

37 minutes ago, Geeselad said:

Some of the Jamaican issues on calla look iffy but are authentic. Wonky lettering ect, think they did some green and red ones? 

 

Same typeface as the 70s reissue of If you Ask Me...that scan is hardly anything to judge authenticity by though and not much to go on on discogs, nothing one 45 cat.  The other only other Jerry Williams Jamaican release is a different type f ace altogether. 

[Geeselad]

I'm just saying, it's quite a big catalogue, with some odd variations especially the Jamaican, might be worth exploring discogs to see if there's plain demo's.  

[Ageing Face]

10 hours ago, Geeselad said:

I'm just saying, it's quite a big catalogue, with some odd variations especially the Jamaican, might be worth exploring discogs to see if there's plain demo's.  

Discogs is showing the release as legit, but as a US  origin

if it is a Jamaican release I’ll probably pass on it. A lot of the early Jamaican pressed Ska records I have are poor quality pressings, not sure if it’s the vinyl or the pressing machines, but VG+ seems to be as good as it gets & the guy selling this is claiming it to be NM

[Chalky]

35 minutes ago, Ageing Face said:

Discogs is showing the release as legit, but as a US  origin

if it is a Jamaican release I’ll probably pass on it. A lot of the early Jamaican pressed Ska records I have are poor quality pressings, not sure if it’s the vinyl or the pressing machines, but VG+ seems to be as good as it gets & the guy selling this is claiming it to be NM

Discogs doesn't get everything right, it relies on user (you or I) input for all its information.  It will only mark something as unofficial or bootleg if there is evidence and enough vote on it.  I would leave well alone and go for one of the two releases of What Shall I Do that you know are real for certain.

The so called Jamaican Jerry Williams looks juts as dodgy or a 70s reissue, where does it state it is Jamaican?

Edited January 3, 2022 by Chalky

[Stubbsy]

I have an original issue (red & white label) for sale VG at £30 if anyone wants an original please feel free to pm me.

Listed for sale on my Discogs page