Kenb Posted Tuesday at 10:55 Posted Tuesday at 10:55 (edited) Sorry about the page set-up Vincent, Verdi, Verga,– no not a mis-spelling of the phrase famously attributed to Julius Caesar “veni, vidi, vici" (i came, i saw, I conquered)…but rather the names of just one women Liz Verdi. Tami Vincent was Liz Verdi whos’ real name was Virginia Verga. Let’s start with my earliest sighting of Virginia (Liz) at 13yrs old. This would be 1958, when together with Angela LaPrete and Vicky Cevetello (but before being known as The Carmelettes) they would back-up The Rockin’ Jesters on one of their records. Reportedly ‘I Was Too Blind’/ Tonight’s The Night’. Oklahoma OK 45-5004. I’ve never heard ‘Tonight’s The Night’ and can only assume it was this side they backed-up, since ‘I Was Too Blind’ has no back up. Unless the report should have said ‘Your Lips’ Oklahoma OK 45-5009. The 1959 Carmelettes were reported as having several hits including ‘Take Me Along’ / Promise Me A Rose’, Alpine AE-53 for the latter side. Oct 1959 Carmelettes, May 1958 The Misses (L to R); Angela LaPrete, Marie Verga, Vicky Cevetello Virginia (Liz) was the daughter of Mr & Mrs Thomas Verga, Jersey City. Mrs Thomas Verga had 7 daughters, Virginia & Marie lived at Home, 59 Giles Ave, whereas the other 5 daughters were married, Including Beatrice (Bea). Her sister, Bea (Beatrice) Verdi, nee Verga, is better known as a song writer, and needs little added info here that isn’t available elsewhere…apart from the fact she wrote ‘If It Hadn’t Been For You’ for her sister Virginia Verga aka Tami Vincent. Lor Crane, arranged and produced Liz Verdi on Columbia 45-43154 ‘Think It Over’ / ‘You Let Him Get Away’. Lor was born in Chicago and a Boys Town graduate of 1953. Lor Crane, who arranged and produced Liz Verdi on Columbia 45-43154 ‘Think It Over’ / ‘You Let Him Get Away’. The 45 was (at least initially) Published by Bob Amorino at Sound Music Co. Edited Tuesday at 11:46 by Kenb 3
Daved Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago Big in London too late 90s. When was this released - early 60s?
Chalky Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago Who first played Liz Verdi? Was a bit of an oldie by the 90s. 1
Eddie Hubbard Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 5 hours ago, Chalky said: Who first played Liz Verdi? Was a bit of an oldie by the 90s. I remember Nick Brown championing it in Shades Of Soul
Chalky Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Eddie Hubbard said: I remember Nick Brown championing it in Shades Of Soul What year was that Eddie, I remember it from 80s and pretty sure have it on old tapes from then, probably first place I heard it on a tape. 2
Eddie Hubbard Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 42 minutes ago, Chalky said: What year was that Eddie, I remember it from 80s and pretty sure have it on old tapes from then, probably first place I heard it on a tape. Probably late 80’s ? I seem to recall Butch playing it also ? 1
Kenb Posted 12 hours ago Author Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, Chalky said: What year was that Eddie, I remember it from 80s and pretty sure have it on old tapes from then, probably first place I heard it on a tape. I think that might have been 1984. That's my unreliable memory of hearing. 1
Eddie Hubbard Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 6 hours ago, Chalky said: Who first played Liz Verdi? Was a bit of an oldie by the 90s. I’ve asked Nick ,he said he reviewed it between 91 -92 maybe a few months either side ,in Shades .
Jessie Pinkman Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago It got a release on Canadian Stardust with Cilla Black "Is it love" on the flipside. 1
Driveller Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago (edited) 14 minutes ago, Eddie Hubbard said: I’ve asked Nick ,he said he reviewed it between 91 -92 maybe a few months either side ,in Shades . Hi, I bought my copy from Butch while he still had it covered up as Barbara West. It was something he was playing in every 100 Club set at the time, but how long he'd had it as a playlist sound before that I don't know, as it was only recently prior that he'd started doing the 100 Club as a resident and I hadn't really heard him enough before that to know. It would only have been a few months later that I did the write-up (probably the next issue), so if someone can track down the issue it appears in, that will pin down a date for when it was a big sound. Edited 11 hours ago by Driveller sentence typo 2
Eddie Hubbard Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 17 minutes ago, Driveller said: Hi, I bought my copy from Butch while he still had it covered up as Barbara West. It was something he was playing in every 100 Club set at the time, but how long he'd had it as a playlist sound before that I don't know, as it was only recently prior that he'd started doing the 100 Club as a resident and I hadn't really heard him enough before that to know. It would only have been a few months later that I did the write-up (probably the next issue), so if someone can track down the issue it appears in, that will pin down a date for when it was a big sound. Brilliant ,thanks Nick
Theothertosspot Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago (edited) Shades of Soul issue 22 Dec 92.pdfShades of Soul issue 22 Dec 92.pdf 32 minutes ago, Driveller said: Hi, I bought my copy from Butch while he still had it covered up as Barbara West. It was something he was playing in every 100 Club set at the time, but how long he'd had it as a playlist sound before that I don't know, as it was only recently prior that he'd started doing the 100 Club as a resident and I hadn't really heard him enough before that to know. It would only have been a few months later that I did the write-up (probably the next issue), so if someone can track down the issue it appears in, that will pin down a date for when it was a big sound. Issue 22 Dec 92 was the copy it was reviewed in. It's on page 48. It is on here somewhere in pdf format along with all the other issues. Have attached above if it works Regards Edited 11 hours ago by Theothertosspot Attachment 1
Eddie Hubbard Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 16 minutes ago, Theothertosspot said: Shades of Soul issue 22 Dec 92.pdfShades of Soul issue 22 Dec 92.pdf 14.45 MB · 2 downloads Issue 22 Dec 92 was the copy it was reviewed in. It's on page 48. It is on here somewhere in pdf format along with all the other issues. Have attached above if it works Regards Many thanks for finding it … 2
Chris Turnbull Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 1 hour ago, Jessie Pinkman said: Phil Wainwright always played it early 90's Seem to recall you playing it yourself Bob at the Ritz and also Cleethorpes?
Chris Turnbull Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago I love it, one of my favourites and one that sounds as good at home as out on a big system - fabulous production
Jessie Pinkman Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago (edited) 4 hours ago, Chris Turnbull said: Seem to recall you playing it yourself Bob at the Ritz and also Cleethorpes? I did Chris thanks for remembering but Phil put me onto it. Edited 6 hours ago by Jessie Pinkman 1
Chalky Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 3 hours ago, Driveller said: Hi, I bought my copy from Butch while he still had it covered up as Barbara West. It was something he was playing in every 100 Club set at the time, but how long he'd had it as a playlist sound before that I don't know, as it was only recently prior that he'd started doing the 100 Club as a resident and I hadn't really heard him enough before that to know. It would only have been a few months later that I did the write-up (probably the next issue), so if someone can track down the issue it appears in, that will pin down a date for when it was a big sound. Cheers Nick, thanks for jogging the memory. I'd forgotten about Mark playing it.
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