Liz Verdi

[Kenb]

Sorry about the page set-up

Vincent, Verdi, Verga,–

no not a mis-spelling of the phrase famously attributed to Julius Caesar  “veni, vidi, vici"  (i came, i saw, I conquered)…but rather the names of just one women Liz Verdi.

Tami Vincent was Liz Verdi whos’ real name was Virginia Verga.

Let’s start with my earliest sighting of Virginia (Liz) at 13yrs old. This would be 1958, when together with Angela LaPrete and Vicky Cevetello (but before being known as The Carmelettes) they would back-up The Rockin’ Jesters on one of their records. Reportedly ‘I Was Too Blind’/ Tonight’s The Night’. Oklahoma OK 45-5004. I’ve never heard ‘Tonight’s The Night’ and can only assume it was this side they backed-up, since ‘I Was Too Blind’ has no back up. Unless the report should have said ‘Your Lips’ Oklahoma OK 45-5009.

The 1959 Carmelettes were reported as having several hits including ‘Take Me Along’ / Promise Me A Rose’, Alpine AE-53 for the latter side.

                                                                                                                                                      Oct 1959  Carmelettes,

May 1958  The Misses                                                                                                      (L to R); Angela LaPrete, Marie Verga, Vicky Cevetello 

Virginia (Liz) was the daughter of Mr & Mrs Thomas Verga, Jersey City. Mrs Thomas Verga had 7 daughters, Virginia & Marie lived at Home, 59 Giles Ave, whereas the other 5 daughters were married, Including Beatrice (Bea).

Her sister, Bea (Beatrice) Verdi, nee Verga, is better known as a song writer, and needs little added info here that isn’t available elsewhere…apart from the fact she wrote ‘If It Hadn’t Been For You’ for her sister Virginia Verga aka Tami Vincent.

Lor Crane, arranged and produced Liz Verdi on Columbia 45-43154 ‘Think It Over’ / ‘You Let Him Get Away’.

Lor was born in Chicago and a Boys Town graduate of 1953. Lor Crane, who arranged and produced Liz Verdi on Columbia 45-43154 ‘Think It Over’ / ‘You Let Him Get Away’. The 45 was (at least initially) Published by Bob Amorino at Sound Music Co.

 

 

Edited Tuesday at 11:46 by Kenb

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[Daved]

Big in London too late 90s. When was this released - early 60s?

[Benji]

1964

[Chalky]

Who first played Liz Verdi? Was a bit of an oldie by the 90s. 

[Kenb]

1 hour ago, Benji said:

1964

Oct 20th 1964

[Sebastian]

The flipside on that Columbia 45 is fabulous:

 

[Eddie Hubbard]

5 hours ago, Chalky said:

Who first played Liz Verdi? Was a bit of an oldie by the 90s. 

I remember Nick Brown championing it in Shades Of Soul 

[Chalky]

9 minutes ago, Eddie Hubbard said:

I remember Nick Brown championing it in Shades Of Soul 

What year was that Eddie, I remember it from 80s and pretty sure have it on old tapes from then, probably first place I heard it on a tape. 

[Jessie Pinkman]

Phil Wainwright always played it early 90's

[Eddie Hubbard]

42 minutes ago, Chalky said:

What year was that Eddie, I remember it from 80s and pretty sure have it on old tapes from then, probably first place I heard it on a tape. 

Probably late 80’s ? I seem to recall Butch playing it also ? 

[Kenb]

1 hour ago, Chalky said:

What year was that Eddie, I remember it from 80s and pretty sure have it on old tapes from then, probably first place I heard it on a tape. 

I think that might have been 1984. That's my unreliable memory of hearing.

[Eddie Hubbard]

6 hours ago, Chalky said:

Who first played Liz Verdi? Was a bit of an oldie by the 90s. 

I’ve asked Nick ,he said he reviewed it between 91 -92  maybe a few months either side ,in Shades .

[daveh]

Comes with a neat picture cover too!

[Jessie Pinkman]

It got a release on Canadian Stardust with Cilla Black "Is it love" on the flipside.

[Driveller]

14 minutes ago, Eddie Hubbard said:

I’ve asked Nick ,he said he reviewed it between 91 -92  maybe a few months either side ,in Shades .

Hi, I bought my copy from Butch while he still had it covered up as Barbara West.  It was something he was playing in every 100 Club set at the time, but how long he'd had it as a playlist sound before that I don't know, as it was only recently prior that he'd started doing the 100 Club as a resident and I hadn't really heard him enough before that to know.  It would only have been a few months later that I did the write-up (probably the next issue), so if someone can track down the issue it appears in, that will pin down a date for when it was a big sound.

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[Eddie Hubbard]

17 minutes ago, Driveller said:

Hi, I bought my copy from Butch while he still had it covered up as Barbara West.  It was something he was playing in every 100 Club set at the time, but how long he'd had it as a playlist sound before that I don't know, as it was only recently prior that he'd started doing the 100 Club as a resident and I hadn't really heard him enough before that to know.  It would only have been a few months later that I did the write-up (probably the next issue), so if someone can track down the issue it appears in, that will pin down a date for when it was a big sound.

Brilliant ,thanks Nick 

[Theothertosspot]

Shades of Soul issue 22 Dec 92.pdfShades of Soul issue 22 Dec 92.pdf

32 minutes ago, Driveller said:

Hi, I bought my copy from Butch while he still had it covered up as Barbara West.  It was something he was playing in every 100 Club set at the time, but how long he'd had it as a playlist sound before that I don't know, as it was only recently prior that he'd started doing the 100 Club as a resident and I hadn't really heard him enough before that to know.  It would only have been a few months later that I did the write-up (probably the next issue), so if someone can track down the issue it appears in, that will pin down a date for when it was a big sound.

Issue 22 Dec 92 was the copy it was reviewed in. It's on page 48.

It is on here somewhere in pdf format along with all the other issues. Have attached above if it works

Regards 

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[Eddie Hubbard]

16 minutes ago, Theothertosspot said:

Shades of Soul issue 22 Dec 92.pdfShades of Soul issue 22 Dec 92.pdf 14.45 MB · 2 downloads

Issue 22 Dec 92 was the copy it was reviewed in. It's on page 48.

It is on here somewhere in pdf format along with all the other issues. Have attached above if it works

Regards 

Many thanks for finding it …

[Chris Turnbull]

1 hour ago, Jessie Pinkman said:

Phil Wainwright always played it early 90's

Seem to recall you playing it yourself Bob at the Ritz and also Cleethorpes?

[Chris Turnbull]

I love it, one of my favourites and one that sounds as good at home as out on a big system - fabulous production

[Jessie Pinkman]

4 hours ago, Chris Turnbull said:

Seem to recall you playing it yourself Bob at the Ritz and also Cleethorpes?

I did Chris thanks for remembering but Phil put me onto it.

Edited yesterday at 21:46 by Jessie Pinkman

[Chalky]

3 hours ago, Driveller said:

Hi, I bought my copy from Butch while he still had it covered up as Barbara West.  It was something he was playing in every 100 Club set at the time, but how long he'd had it as a playlist sound before that I don't know, as it was only recently prior that he'd started doing the 100 Club as a resident and I hadn't really heard him enough before that to know.  It would only have been a few months later that I did the write-up (probably the next issue), so if someone can track down the issue it appears in, that will pin down a date for when it was a big sound.

Cheers Nick, thanks for jogging the memory.  I'd forgotten about Mark playing it. 

[Kenb]

23 hours ago, daveh said:

Comes with a neat picture cover too!

I have a different story than that on the sleeve...not that it matters, but it's different;

May 20th 1964 Bea walks into Bob Amorino's office mistaking it for her attorney's office which was next door. While chatting about what each of them did, and Bea telling Bob about her song writing and Liz singing them for publishers in an attempt to sell them. Bob asked them to demo a song, and immediately set up an audition at  Columbia.

Edited 6 hours ago by Kenb