Right, since this seems to divide opinion so violently, I thought we'd have a poll - result by Friday morning will decide once and for all if this is a wonderful record or if Pete is justified in his destructive tendencies...

For original discussion see here https://www.soul-source.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=26880

Edited June 5, 200717 yr by rachel

I like it

Me too - and voted!

Why do I get the feeling that whatever the outcome of the poll Pete will ne'r gi up his crusade.

Right, since this seems to divide opinion so violently, I thought we'd have a poll - result by Friday morning will decide once and for all if this is a wonderful record or if Pete is justified in his destructive tendencies...

I'm woried about tactical voting Rachel. We all know that "I'm Pete Smith" can only possibly garner 2 votes on here. So watch out for shenanaigins !

Dont matter what the people say........

I Like it.......so does my missus.

I'm woried about tactical voting Rachel. We all know that "I'm Pete Smith" can only possibly garner 2 votes on here. So watch out for shenanaigins !

Hmm, yes. I did think about adding options for "No, I'm Pete Smith", and "I'm Pete Smith and so is my wife"....

Incidentally, I think I've covered most variations of feeling towards the record but if anyone would like a different option added, do let me know.

Dont matter what the people say........

I Like it.......so does my missus.

I like it too.........But then again I like most Northern Soul

It's OK for a Northern record.

Hmm, yes. I did think about adding options for "No, I'm Pete Smith", and "I'm Pete Smith and so is my wife"....

Incidentally, I think I've covered most variations of feeling towards the record but if anyone would like a different option added, do let me know.

I got one "As shite as Pete Smith's TK Maxx trainers"

Hopefully the Cleethorpes DJs on here havent been reading the threads.

I like it, but woud hate to hear it 25 times over the weekend.

i voted take it or leave it, and i love modern as much as sixties.

i also am indifferent towards frank wilson.

I"M SPARTACUS

Pete

before you have a rush of blood to the head, can you please contact me first, should you decide this fate with another copy of this very nice record

i would gladly give you a crisp £5 note and then advertise it on ebay for people to smash

I'm woried about tactical voting Rachel. We all know that "I'm Pete Smith" can only possibly garner 2 votes on here. So watch out for shenanaigins !

D'oh. Forgot about split personalities etc etc etc

can someone post a clip ? .......I don't think I know it

Voted hate it

Bazza

no i'm PETE SMITH,AND I LOVE IT

Rachel I think you should close this poll and start a new one because everyone is obviously going to vote for the I'm Pete Smith choice because a) they admire my impeccable taste in music and they are jealous of my good looks and hairstyle

Rachel I think you should close this poll and start a new one because everyone is obviously going to vote for the I'm Pete Smith choice because a) they admire my impeccable taste in music and B ) they are jealous of my good looks and no compromise sports/action footwear

Dunno about option B, mate. They're a bit too cutting edge for me.

Dunno about option B, mate. They're a bit too cutting edge for me.

Hold up, I'm missing something about the footwear here, is this because I was wearing a pair of cheap trainers about 18 months ago I would refer you to try and find a post called The Curse Of The Chandlers and you will discover why I was not wearing my usual everyday footwear

Hold up, I'm missing something about the footwear here, is this because I was wearing a pair of cheap trainers about 18 months ago I would refer you to try and find a post called The Curse Of The Chandlers and you will discover why I was not wearing my usual everyday footwear

You don't have to justify them to me, Pete I'm sure they're lovely and you look great in them

Hold up, I'm missing something about the footwear here, is this because I was wearing a pair of cheap trainers about 18 months ago I would refer you to try and find a post called The Curse Of The Chandlers and you will discover why I was not wearing my usual everyday footwear

Ahhh, I think every so often we all need a dose of...

The Curse Of The Chandlers https://www.soul-source.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=26267

Seven Pete Smiths so far.. what a disturbing thought...

Ahhh, I think every so often we all need a dose of...

The Curse Of The Chandlers https://www.soul-source.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=26267

Quality !

Better than Hemingways "Old Man and the Sea"

(Mind you, I couldn't take to the hero. A bit one dimensional. )

You don't have to justify them to me, Pete I'm sure they're lovely and you look great in them

I bought a pair of white Evisu trainers a couple of years ago and when she saw them, my Mum said they looked 'gay' my own Mum giving me advice on what to wear!

111 votes at the time of writing that, 49 of those did not vote for the "I like it" option so I'm not on my own here

111 votes at the time of writing that, 49 of those did not vote for the "I like it" option so I'm not on my own here

Unless you are claiming the top two categories, try adding up again Pete

Unless you are claiming the top two categories, try adding up again Pete

I'd rather not thank you, you big freak

I'd rather not thank you, you big freak

Facts ehh.

Allways liked it. great record. not got a copy myself, but would love one if the price was right, if any ones got one they dont want i/ll take it off there hands and even pay the postage

Not a first.. but not the norm either... but i'm with Pete on this one... i hate it!

But then again... i'm only a girl....

Rachel I think you should close this poll and start a new one because everyone is obviously going to vote for the I'm Pete Smith choice because a) they admire my impeccable taste in music and they are jealous of my good looks and hairstyle

Cos they love to take the pi**

personally good rythmn

good riff

nice hook

good soul record

and just sold me last one

Its a great record..............having suffered from being thrashed to death, wouldnt bother me if I never heard it at a venue again, but you cant deny a quality record...............listen to it, close your eyes & imagine you are hearing this for the first time ever..........would you dance, I know I would, if it was discovered today it would still be a monster, but then its not just about the record is it, its about what it stands for, its the sound that epitomises the more modern sounding records, with slicker recording techniques & a smoother less raw quality that were to become part of the scenes rich diversity..............some of us embraced the sound & excepted it along with the more traditional tunes, others hated it.

Russ

It took a few years before I 'got' this record. I think it was once when I heard it out loud in a club that I realised how good it was. Played out, and then some, but still a good record. It is much better than Lil Major Williams (which is a nice record, don't get me wrong) and if both were discovered today I think we all know which record would have been most wanted. Ironically it sounds right for today I think, considering the many old but currently en vogue slightly funky 70's movers like Ike Strong, Nicky Newarkers, etc. If only it wasn't so played out, or if only it had been played on the 'deep funk scene' first, or if at least it had been revived in such a context, or something like that, then it would be a monster.

I actually bought my WDJ copy quite a few years ago from Pete Smith. Thanks a lot Pete.

Edited June 6, 200717 yr by Guest

13 Pete Smiths

Should be an extra option "No, I'm Spartacus" (with a dodgy west midlands accent sound clip )

Rich

It took a few years before I 'got' this record. I think it was once when I heard it out loud in a club that I realised how good it was. Played out, and then some, but still a good record. It is much better than Lil Major Williams (which is a nice record, don't get me wrong) and if both were discovered today I think we all know which record would have been most wanted. Ironically it sounds right for today I think, considering the many old but currently en vogue slightly funky 70's movers like Ike Strong, Nicky Newarkers, etc. If only it wasn't so played out, or if only it had been played on the 'deep funk scene' first, or if at least it had been revived in such a context, or something like that, then it would be a monster.

I actually bought my WDJ copy quite a few years ago from Pete Smith. Thanks a lot Pete.

Agree I hate to be nostalgic but I still like this record as it reminds me of being 14 and buying the Casino Classics Volume 2 from Vibes in Bury-it's on that with Eloise Laws and the Showstoppers I think.

13 Pete Smiths

Should be an extra option "No, I'm Spartacus" (with a dodgy west midlands accent sound clip )

Rich

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Wimm Sparteeecuss Hey It

makes me want to vomit!!!! third rate,absolutely awful vocals, i wouldnt have one even if it was given to me for nish!!!!

its like a lot of the crap that was played at the mecca and the ritz....steve

Wimm Sparteeecuss Hey It

Ay It yow mean

makes me want to vomit!!!! third rate,absolutely awful vocals, i wouldnt have one even if it was given to me for nish!!!!

its like a lot of the crap that was played at the mecca and the ritz....steve

See, there are many excellent, likeminded folks on this list with good taste, we should form a little club

Channel Four Film: reviewed by Mel-vin Brat

CARSTAIRS-PLAY

Based on the Book "GOODBYE TO BORIN' (oldies)" by Christopher Isherwood

A harrowing tale of blind intolerance and grossly bad taste set against the backdropping antics of the German Vee-Jay Republic of 1919-1933. The film is set around a North Berlin Soul club, where self-absorbed Silly Bowlegs persues her career as a All-Night Cabaret DJ, seemingly unaware of the growing mayhem encroaching on her lifestyle.

The hyper-inflation of rare-Soul prices, and mass unemployment in record pressing plants creates an climate where extremism thrives. Anything seen as remotely "Modern" is anethema to a small-minded group of brainless neo-fascists in baggy trousers who rampage around "pretending" to smash up any record that doesn't fit the definitions of 'das Uber-Northern', as laid down by their delusional, self-proclaimed "Fuerer" in his semi-literate booklet 'Mein Kopf Hurts, Duhh!'

The film's poignant theme song perfectly evokes the sultry, emotion-charged atmosphere of the Vee-Jay Republic, as the whole scene slides (with the aid of copius amounts of talc!), inexorably toward mind numbing banality, and a new dark age threatens to submerge all that is even remotely soulful and replace it with "rare" uptempo pop tunes and jack-bootlegs...

Edited June 6, 200717 yr by mel brat

Channel Four Film: reviewed by Mel-vin Brat

CARSTAIRS-PLAY

Based on the Book "GOODBYE TO BORIN' (oldies)" by Christopher Isherwood

A harrowing tale of blind intolerance and grossly bad taste set against the backdropping antics of the German Vee-Jay Republic of 1919-1933. The film is set around a North Berlin Soul club, where self-absorbed Silly Bowlegs persues her career as a All-Night Cabaret DJ, seemingly unaware of the growing mayhem encroaching on her lifestyle.

The hyper-inflation of rare-Soul prices, and mass unemployment in record pressing plants creates an climate where extremism thrives. Anything seen as remotely "Modern" is anethema to a small-minded group of brainless neo-fascists in baggy trousers who rampage around "pretending" to smash up any record that doesn't fit the definitions of 'das Uber-Northern', as laid down by their delusional, self-proclaimed "Fuerer" in his semi-literate booklet 'Mein Kopf Hurts, Duhh!'

The film's poignant theme song perfectly evokes the sultry, emotion-charged atmosphere of the Vee-Jay Republic, as the whole scene slides (with the aid of copius amounts of talc!), inexorably toward mind numbing banality, and a new dark age threatens to submerge all that is even remotely soulful and replace it with "rare" uptempo pop tunes and jack-bootlegs...

Av you stopped taking the medication again Mel

Bazza

Av you stopped taking the medication again Mel

Bazza

I never actually needed any "medication" to dance to records I liked!

See, there are many excellent, likeminded folks on this list with good taste, we should form a little club

Yeah - You can call it "The Northern Soul Conservatives Association for the Hard of Hearing"

Channel Four Film: reviewed by Mel-vin Brat

CARSTAIRS-PLAY

Based on the Book "GOODBYE TO BORIN' (oldies)" by Christopher Isherwood

A harrowing tale of blind intolerance and grossly bad taste set against the backdropping antics of the German Vee-Jay Republic of 1919-1933. The film is set around a North Berlin Soul club, where self-absorbed Silly Bowlegs persues her career as a All-Night Cabaret DJ, seemingly unaware of the growing mayhem encroaching on her lifestyle.

The hyper-inflation of rare-Soul prices, and mass unemployment in record pressing plants creates an climate where extremism thrives. Anything seen as remotely "Modern" is anethema to a small-minded group of brainless neo-fascists in baggy trousers who rampage around "pretending" to smash up any record that doesn't fit the definitions of 'das Uber-Northern', as laid down by their delusional, self-proclaimed "Fuerer" in his semi-literate booklet 'Mein Kopf Hurts, Duhh!'

The film's poignant theme song perfectly evokes the sultry, emotion-charged atmosphere of the Vee-Jay Republic, as the whole scene slides (with the aid of copius amounts of talc!), inexorably toward mind numbing banality, and a new dark age threatens to submerge all that is even remotely soulful and replace it with "rare" uptempo pop tunes and jack-bootlegs...

I don't know how long it took you to think up, type and post the above, but believe me, it really wasn't worth the effort.

And I like the Carstairs.

I don't know how long it took you to think up, type and post the above, but believe me, it really wasn't worth the effort.

And I like the Carstairs.

And I like critics! (but why should I "believe you"?)

Edited June 6, 200717 yr by mel brat

And I like critics!

Not as much as yourself though !

Not as much as yourself though !

Join the queue for my fan club! (all hammers to be left outside!)

Edited June 6, 200717 yr by mel brat

Channel Four Film: reviewed by Mel-vin Brat

CARSTAIRS-PLAY

Based on the Book "GOODBYE TO BORIN' (oldies)" by Christopher Isherwood

A harrowing tale of blind intolerance and grossly bad taste set against the backdropping antics of the German Vee-Jay Republic of 1919-1933. The film is set around a North Berlin Soul club, where self-absorbed Silly Bowlegs persues her career as a All-Night Cabaret DJ, seemingly unaware of the growing mayhem encroaching on her lifestyle.

The hyper-inflation of rare-Soul prices, and mass unemployment in record pressing plants creates an climate where extremism thrives. Anything seen as remotely "Modern" is anethema to a small-minded group of brainless neo-fascists in baggy trousers who rampage around "pretending" to smash up any record that doesn't fit the definitions of 'das Uber-Northern', as laid down by their delusional, self-proclaimed "Fuerer" in his semi-literate booklet 'Mein Kopf Hurts, Duhh!'

The film's poignant theme song perfectly evokes the sultry, emotion-charged atmosphere of the Vee-Jay Republic, as the whole scene slides (with the aid of copius amounts of talc!), inexorably toward mind numbing banality, and a new dark age threatens to submerge all that is even remotely soulful and replace it with "rare" uptempo pop tunes and jack-bootlegs...

Just as I thought - only someone as bent as a nine-bob note could come up with such a "Gay" retort.

You persona is obviously the result of an overbearing Mother and an ineffectual Father.

p.s. Tourettes is uncontrolable - all of my outbursts are measured

Join the queue for my fan club! (all hammers to be left outside!)

Almost as unfunny as the post you edited. Well done.

Just as I thought - only someone as bent as a nine-bob note could come up with such a "Gay" retort...

...and how typical that that's the first thing that entered your tiny mind! I suggested tourettes as I can't envisage you thinking for yourself in any shape or form. This latest remark confirms it.

P.S. You're losing the vote.

Edited June 6, 200717 yr by mel brat

Almost as unfunny as the post you edited. Well done.

Thank you. "Unfunny" is almost a compliment in the circumstances.

could go on all night this

suggest leave it as it is

if want to carry it on maybe best take the pm route

edited to add

have removed the late nite off topic posts on this page

as don't really add much to the thread