Guest Dan Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 what's the original release of this? curtom or buddah (or something else)? and what year? ought to know i know but don't i'm afraid! cheers Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Not sure on exact year but the original US label is Curtom. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Dan Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 merci beaucoups mon ami Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Derek Pearson Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 and suprisingly quite hard to find on US Curtom, have seen a few copies recently for £20-25. Most Brits have only seen it on UK release. And what a great track it is - played it at Brighouse Ritz last November to good response. People seem to have forgotten just how good/great this track is. derek Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Dan Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 it's stood the test of man years hasn't it derek anyone know what the story is with the buddah release just a straightforward re-issue? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest lifeandsoul Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Supporting derek's comments, had a quick peak on Gemm earlier - and already forgotten the precise details, but a US curtom demo was $130 ish dollars and you could get a UK Buddah or even a French pic sleeve buddah for next to nothing. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 The copy for $130 has been there for a LONG time, no one buys it for very obvious reasons. Top tune but what a clown that lists it at $130. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
John May Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 I love this record, one of my fav' oldies.....It's quality !!. If it had never been released for some reason and had just been discovered on a studio acetate, all the big collectors & d.j's would kill for it.....it's that good. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Sick of hearing it on TV,great record just sick of hearing it! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Got played a bit at Clifton Hall early 1980's....great sound, mines on Buddah, not played it since those days.......must correct that wrong... Brett Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Seen listed @ £50 this week.... possibly Chris Andertons list... Very hard to find on original 1972 U.S. release as it was a complete flop in the States. Released just after in the UK and Europe where it went on to be a chart hit. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Marc Forrest Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Great flipside too by the Sisters Love "Gimme Your Love" Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Dan Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Seen listed @ £50 this week.... possibly Chris Andertons list... Very hard to find on original 1972 U.S. release as it was a complete flop in the States. Released just after in the UK and Europe where it went on to be a chart hit. link mine's on a 1971 US Buddah...how come?? surely not booted? so was Buddah first after all? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Dan Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 actually the plot thickens (or rather I do) it looks like it's a german import marc or someone can maybe confirm? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 (edited) mine's on a 1971 US Buddah...how come?? surely not booted? so was Buddah first after all? link Yep its German...... Orig deffo on Curtom Edited May 16, 2005 by pikeys dog Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
soulAdequateNP Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 mine's on a 1971 US Buddah...how come?? surely not booted? so was Buddah first after all? link Interestingly enough, it was actually booted around 1980 on what was supposed to be a Curtom white demo - it just had the words CURTOM RECORDS at the top, not the logo. I used to have one ages ago, think I gave it away - I assume it was a boot for 2 reasons: 1) sound was awful and 2) the market stall I got it from had loads for £1.25 each Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Marc Forrest Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 actually the plot thickens (or rather I do) it looks like it's a german import marc or someone can maybe confirm? link Yes, German...although mine is a black issue (also German). Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 it looks like it's a german import link German multicoloured issue came out with a centre too. Godz Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Seen listed @ £50 this week.... possibly Chris Andertons list... Very hard to find on original 1972 U.S. release as it was a complete flop in the States. Released just after in the UK and Europe where it went on to be a chart hit. link It is pretty hard considering how well known it is but there has been plenty of copies for sale recently, most in the £25 - £40 range even if some morons bid one up to $100+ on ebay recently. John Anderson seems to have a few of them since he has been selling some on ebay this spring. Shifty has also listed it a few times recently. I am sure there are loads of copies out there somewhere in the U.S. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Micksmix Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 posted this up once before on another thread,john anderson's copy on ebay went for £132..........................???????????????? Mick Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest James Trouble Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 I love this record, one of my fav' oldies.....It's quality !!. If it had never been released for some reason and had just been discovered on a studio acetate, all the big collectors & d.j's would kill for it.....it's that good. link It's not as good as the rare New World "We're Gunna Make It" which is a Curtis Mayfield produced Move On Up soundalike. All the collectors kill for that, so you might be right. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 German multicoloured issue came out with a centre too. Godz link The original UK issue is multicoloured - or is it - got me thinking now - but I'm sure it's on a 2 track with the multicoloured design and that was replaced by a 3 track with the black label, but I may be wrong. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Paul R Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 I'm sure you're right Pete, I seem to remember a black Buddah release and a multi coloured "maxi single" coming out around the same time. Just another good soul chart record at the time though! Paul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest James Trouble Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 (edited) Click here for a link to New World. It's from the Oslo Soul web site. It would be interesting to see what the "Move On Up" fans think of it. Edited May 17, 2005 by James Trouble Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 (edited) Click here for a link to New World. It's from the Oslo Soul web site. It would be interesting to see what the "Move On Up" fans think of it. link "We're Gonna Make It" is indeed very good, but are you implying that you think it is better than "Move On Up". Surely not. Edited May 17, 2005 by Sebastian Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest taffy Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 posted this up once before on another thread,john anderson's copy on ebay went for £132..........................???????????????? Mick link that was a us demo Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest James Trouble Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 "We're Gonna Make It" is indeed very good, but are you implying that you think it is better than "Move On Up". Surely not. link Ok, it's a close one then. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest stevemcmahon Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Ok, it's a close one then. link Only thing they have in common is that bongo player on overtime.. sounds more like a track off one of those K-Tel compilations you could buy in Woolies.. and as for those lyrics - hardly inspired!! [sorry, but you did ask]. Saw the US one on Curtom recently in LA for $2. Didn't buy it as personally I'd never play it out these days ..been played to death. Great record in it's time though. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 posted this up once before on another thread,john anderson's copy on ebay went for £132..........................???????????????? Mick link One of his several copies did go crazy yes, but the others went for a lot less. £132, who are these people? Mentally impaired people with PC access? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 The New World 45 is OK, not much more. Totally inferior in every way when compared to the brilliance that is "Move On Up". I don't think it (NW) stands out nor do I get a feel of any lasting qualities about it. Not bad and a decent soul mover, but not all that. Seems like a bit of a fad record in certain circles. IMO... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Christian, Do you think its that good? Personally I think the vocal is shite and its far too messy. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Yes, "Move On Up" is a very good record. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Yes, "Move On Up" is a very good record. link Not Curtis.... that's a classic. I meant New World... piss poor inmho Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Dan Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 that's being kind! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 (edited) Not Curtis.... that's a classic. I meant New World... piss poor inmho link Read my post again. If you do you will see I wrote that I DON'T rate the New World 45 that highly... I don't see how what I wrote (see below) could be misinterpreted but stranger things have happened on this forum. "The New World 45 is OK, not much more. Totally inferior in every way when compared to the brilliance that is "Move On Up". I don't think it (NW) stands out nor do I get a feel of any lasting qualities about it. Not bad and a decent soul mover, but not all that. Seems like a bit of a fad record in certain circles. IMO... " Edited May 17, 2005 by Guest Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Read my post again. If you do you will see I wrote that I DON'T rate the New World 45 that highly... I don't see how what I wrote (see below) could be misinterpreted but stranger things have happened on this forum. "The New World 45 is OK, not much more. Totally inferior in every way when compared to the brilliance that is "Move On Up". I don't think it (NW) stands out nor do I get a feel of any lasting qualities about it. Not bad and a decent soul mover, but not all that. Seems like a bit of a fad record in certain circles. IMO... " link sorry Christian, Sometimes forget that you are not from the UK, so unlikely to read the sarcasm into my comment.... Knew exactly what you meant. Still think you let it off light.... mnaybe you are a closet New World fan? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 mnaybe you are a closet New World fan? No, I am not. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ian Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Go for the French Pic Sleeve 45 with Inst on the flip Ian Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Go for the French Pic Sleeve 45 with Inst on the flip Ian or the Buddah lp from 1970. which says on the sleeve original recordings by Buddah Records N.Y Gaye Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ric-tic Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Go for the French Pic Sleeve 45 with Inst on the flip Ian link or go for the curtom u.k 12" from a few years ago with the full version Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Moore Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Err.......I don't hear anything that sounds remotely like the Curtis track. The NW song is, as we say 'round 'ere , gubbins! Regards, Dave www.hitsvillesoulclub.com Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike Posted May 18, 2005 Share Posted May 18, 2005 Err.......I don't hear anything that sounds remotely like the Curtis track. The NW song is, as we say 'round 'ere , gubbins! Regards, Dave www.hitsvillesoulclub.com link sure heard "gubbins" used before but can't remember if is good or bad ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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