Ady Croasdell Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 If you had 400 great and unknown northern soul monsters, like he boasts of having, would you play bootlegs of records other people have made popular? And you know I concentrate on my own stuff.Besides it is my concern when I'm threatened by this monster and his cronies for having an opinion, AND other people have been receiving threats from him when his paranoid head tells him I'm pretending to be someone buying his record packs to set him up. If they were emails to me I'd post them on here, but they are not my emails to post. How many bootlegs did he play at Crossfire? Why is Levine playing carvers of Butch spins on the radio? As he's not on here, your personal ongoing spat isn't relevant to a discussion about records played on a radio show. Ditto with Crossfire, I didn't look to see if every record was an original or a boot, I do know that the vast majority were originals and I didn't witness any boots. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest James Trouble Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 (edited) As he's not on here, your personal ongoing spat isn't relevant to a discussion about records played on a radio show. Ditto with Crossfire, I didn't look to see if every record was an original or a boot, I do know that the vast majority were originals and I didn't witness any boots. Good to know the majority were originals Edited May 26, 2009 by James Trouble Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Im not here for a Levine slagfest , but I am interested in these 400 OG unknowns ? A false start on the J Lovjoy but hopefully plenty more to come ? Simon Anyone can have 400 unknowns, surely. I've got hundreds of them. Except in my case, they are uknown because they are rubbish Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Marc Forrest Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Anyone can have 400 unknowns, surely. I've got hundreds of them. Except in my case, they are uknown because they are rubbish Don`t think its except in your case.. Marc Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ady Croasdell Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Good to know the majority were originals Less of the stupid doubting smileys please; as i said the vast majority were. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simon M Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 (edited) Anyone can have 400 unknowns, surely. I've got hundreds of them. Except in my case, they are uknown because they are rubbish Its strange but John A and Butch know the rubbish too Pete . How about having Levine at the 100 club , so he can air his quality unkowns ? Edited May 26, 2009 by Simon M Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest James Trouble Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Less of the stupid doubting smileys please; as i said the vast majority were. That's good to hear, at least the majority were not carver boots. I guess the odd few doesn't hurt anyone Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simsy Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 I like your new avatar Pete. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 I've listened to the show, hopefully without bias, and made comments next to each track... Tried to be as postive as I could, so if I say I'm not a fan, then it means I really am not a fan. The Charades - Key To My Happiness Classic Oldie Impact - Smile A While Average Seventies sounding track which IMO would go down well with the "handbag crowd". Tommy and The Derbys - Don't Play That Role So So.... nowt to write home about Tommy Tate - If You Ain't Man Enough- Now this I did like - until the GEEEETAR kicked in then it was spoilt for me Martha Starr - Sweet Temptation- Had the LP with the alt version on - was never convinced that it was that great then. The Moments - Key To My Happiness Pleasant enough slow track - not for a 'Northern Soul Showcase' though Rhetta Hughes - Cry Myself To Sleep Lovely record, can't fault this choice. The Soul-Sations - Can't Take The Pain - Mucky. Mucky. Mucky. LJ Reynolds - Key To The World Muckier than the one above. Margie Singleton - Never Let Go Don't like her voice - far too squeeky for me. Sharon Scott - I'm Not Afraid - Marvellous The Poets - Wrapped Around Your Finger Never really been that impressed by this track, but its ok. Patrinelle Staton - A Little Love Affair Sick to death of hearing this, used to hear it everytime I went out at one point. Otherwise a fair choice. The Festivals - Gee Baby Bloody Awful. A migraine inducer. The Contours - I Just Can't Stop This Feeling Not bad - not their best but worthy of being on air. Benny Harper - My Prayer A love/hate track. This week I'm mostly loving it. Collette Kelly - City of Fools Aaaargh! Please make it stop. Benny Latimore - Jolie Tripe. Sandy Golden - Your Love Is Everything Ok James Lovejoy - Divide and Conquer Poo Poo The Parliaments - My Rainy Day Great record, very messy, but bit tired of hearing it now. The Originals - Don't Stop Now "One of the greatest Motown Records ever made"? Really? Decidedly mediocre CP Spencer - This Man Needs You As far as Ians productions go, it's not that bad really, just suffers from the "Levine Sound" The Exciters - Reaching For The Best Never liked this. Nowts changed since last time I heard it. Nat Augustin - Love Is My Sanctuary Not for me. The Four Vandals - The Wrong Side Of Town Cack. always was, even when it was being touted as a 60s recording (obviously to people with painted on ears) The Concentrations - Man On The Spot Definately not for me. Venicia Wilson - This Time I'm Loving You Would make a great instrumental, if you remixed it and slowed it down a tad....(not that bad in a Sandie Shaw kind of way) Tahira Jumah - Waterfalls - Another that's not my taste - I think it might be the drums. Barbara Pennington - Twenty Four Hours A Day Probably the best Ian Levine production IMO - its a proper "Disco" record. Sidney Barnes - Standing On Solid Ground - Popular, and as these new productions go, not the worst.... too much tamborine though Lyn Jerrard - Guarantee Of A Lifetime You're having a laugh surely? Esjae Gennice - Standing In The Darkness - No, not a fan. Ronnie Walker - Out Of The Shadows - Ditto. Davinah Edwards - So Far Beyond My Dreaming Ditto. Tommy Hunt - Nothing But Good Times - Good old Tommy, what a trooper. Bout the best I can say about it. Nat Augustin - I Found Heaven Still a Take That record to me. JJ and Orthea Barnes - Send Some Love Not a fan. Chuck Jackson - All Over The World Used to think it sounded ok - hasn't aged well has it... utter tripe. Frances Nero - Footsteps Following Me Neither has this one. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest SteveC Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 For whatever folk class it as I absolutely adore the Tahira Jumah track Waterfalls. The woman has a great voice and the production is not typical of Ian's modern day creations. Even Dave Abbott was impressed by it. Will this track only be released on the forthcoming album? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 I like your new avatar Pete. It was meant to be a spoof of Jockos' Obama avatar, I'll take it down later! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Paul Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 I've listened to the show, hopefully without bias, and made comments next to each track... Tried to be as postive as I could, so if I say I'm not a fan, then it means I really am not a fan. I'm glad you weren't being "negative" because your "positive" comments were harsh enough. It's very easy to call tracks "tripe", "poo poo", "cack", "utter tripe" etc in an attempt to be controversial, but it's much more difficult to offer constructive criticism to explain why you don't like a particular track. Thankfully, many other soulsource members are broad minded and have regarded 'Jolie' and others by Lattimore as classics since they were first released. It isn't rare and it's not an obvious dance track but it deserves a little more respect. Best regards, Paul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Marc Forrest Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Patrinelle Staton - A Little Love Affair Sick to death of hearing this, used to hear it everytime I went out at one point. Otherwise a fair choice. Not THAAAAT many copies around, are there ? Anyway, people should play the flipside more often anyway ;-) Marc Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Marc Forrest Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Thankfully, many other soulsource members are broad minded and have regarded 'Jolie' and others by Lattimore as classics since... Paul Think you can`t really disqualify members (people) by classifying other (member)s as being more broad minded only because they cherish certain tunes more or even regard them as classics whereas others do not. IMO Marc Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Paul Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Think you can`t really disqualify members (people) by classifying other (member)s as being more broad minded only because they cherish certain tunes more or even regard them as classics whereas others do not. IMO Marc Hello Marc, I didn't attempt to "disqualify" any member, I just pointed out that it's very easy to be insulting about a track rather than offer constructive criticism. Even if he had said "this one isn't for me, personally" or "I don't like slow tracks" or whatever, that would have been better. We all have personal preferences but we need to remember that people tend to have different tastes. Best regards, Paul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Marc Forrest Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 (edited) Hello Marc, I didn't attempt to "disqualify" any member, I just pointed out that it's very easy to be insulting about a track rather than offer constructive criticism. Even if he had said "this one isn't for me, personally" or "I don't like slow tracks" or whatever, that would have been better. We all have personal preferences but we need to remember that people tend to have different tastes. Best regards, Paul Think that this is exactly all what Pikeys Dog was trying to express with his review, a different taste on certain tunes (only by the way..). But from the essence of what you just said I understand your point of view seems to be in reality quite similar to mine. Marc Edited May 26, 2009 by Marc Forrest Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Pikeys dog was pointing out that Ian Levine was playing an hour of "Semi Known / Rare / Not so rare Northern Soul" not an hour of mixed "Deep / Ballad / Funky" or otherwise - I could have gone more in depth on every track, but that would have been nitpicking. Maybe cack was a little strong - how about dull, boring and bereft of any redeeming features other than it is by an artist popular with the "Soulier than thou" few. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Not THAAAAT many copies around, are there ? Anyway, people should play the flipside more often anyway ;-) Marc Marc, There were plenty of reissues out there that got time on the decks. You couldn't go anywhere without hearing it at one point. Round here we call it the "Good Times, Bad Times... Nine F*cking Times" Syndrome. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 I'm glad you weren't being "negative" because your "positive" comments were harsh enough. It's very easy to call tracks "tripe", "poo poo", "cack", "utter tripe" etc in an attempt to be controversial, but it's much more difficult to offer constructive criticism to explain why you don't like a particular track. Thankfully, many other soulsource members are broad minded and have regarded 'Jolie' and others by Lattimore as classics since they were first released. It isn't rare and it's not an obvious dance track but it deserves a little more respect. Best regards, Paul Paul, I respect your right to consider the track worthy of respect, as much as I personally hold the right to believe that it's just not really very good. Believe it or not I am quite broadminded in my taste - but when something doesn't work for me, then there's no point beating about the bush - i.m.o it's tripe and listening to three minutes of tripe is three minutes i'll never get back. Unfortunately, there was so much i didn't like about a lot of the tracks, I thought i had been as positive as I could muster in my notes. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest James Trouble Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 (edited) Hello Marc, I didn't attempt to "disqualify" any member, I just pointed out that it's very easy to be insulting about a track rather than offer constructive criticism. Even if he had said "this one isn't for me, personally" or "I don't like slow tracks" or whatever, that would have been better. We all have personal preferences but we need to remember that people tend to have different tastes. Best regards, Paul Now that is funny, considering the hostess of the show in question and the venom he spits on here. Nobody else gets special treatment and allowances, why should his royal highness? Pussy footing around him all the time like he's the queen of England, while he's slapping threats, or if they are lucky insults, on anyone who disagrees with him. Edited May 26, 2009 by James Trouble Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Lobster Madras Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 (edited) Now that is funny, considering the hostess of the show in question and the venom he spits on here. Nobody else gets special treatment and allowances, why should his royal highness? Pussy footing around him all the time like he's the queen of England, while he's slapping threats, or if they are lucky insults, on anyone who disagrees with him. I think its time to see the nice doctor, James and take your medicine.. Calm down and have a good sleep. Zis obsession wiss the Mr Levine person is beginning to make you very ill . Edited May 26, 2009 by Lobster Madras Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest SteveSnow Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 I'm guessing that everyone who wanted to hear the show has done so by now. Closing this thread before JT bursts another vein in his forehead. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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