simonb Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 you say: To knock a man who's output clocks up 30+LP's is stupid - he'd made at least a dozen outstanding tracks. That knocks more or less any individual artist championed by the Northern scene for six. he's made hundreds of tracks (as has already been pointed out, even 30 lps only scratches the surface really) and if you only think a dozen of them are outstanding that leaves a lot of mediocrity. you're making the argument for me! link You're just sounding obtuse Dan. Northern Soul's always been based on Song not artist. Many of the top Northern sounds are one hit wonders. Most recorded no more than a dozen songs during their whole career (I know there are exceptions). I'm not making the argument for you, you're ignoring the fact that James Brown's recorded more quality records (let alone just good ones), than most artists revered on the Northern scene, have even laid down to tape. Its got nothing to do with all the ones you dont like (Unless you're Perspective on life is negative or stupid). How many times have people tracked down artists to turn up copies of some gem, Only to be told I've not got any now - but listen to my latest recordings, which are way off the mark? James Brown is not everyone's cup of tea, this I understand. However, I bet most people like at least a few. Prisoner of Love for example is about as soulful as a song gets. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Dan Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 You're just sounding obtuse Dan. Northern Soul's always been based on Song not artist. Many of the top Northern sounds are one hit wonders. Most recorded no more than a dozen songs during their whole career (I know there are exceptions). I'm not making the argument for you, you're ignoring the fact that James Brown's recorded more quality records (let alone just good ones), than most artists revered on the Northern scene, have even laid down to tape. Its got nothing to do with all the ones you dont like (Unless you're Perspective on life is negative or stupid). How many times have people tracked down artists to turn up copies of some gem, Only to be told I've not got any now - but listen to my latest recordings, which are way off the mark? James Brown is not everyone's cup of tea, this I understand. However, I bet most people like at least a few. Prisoner of Love for example is about as soulful as a song gets. link i don't think i'm being obtuse simon. just saying that if all you can say about the guy is that he's made a dozen dood recordings in a career which has seen hundreds, his hit ratio (even for a fan like yourself) isn't that high and leaves, as i've said all along, a lot of samey dross. as for the line about northern being about songs rather than artists, i agree to an extent...you wouldn't call lee mckinney the godfather of soul cos he hasn't got the output or the influence (you would IMO say he was better than James Brown, but that's a different story). i just don't agree that JB is all that good, that's all, and no amount of obfuscation by german djs with axes to grind will make me change my view. but i'm really bored of this now as i'm sure you and everyone else is. i will leave it at this now (though feel free to continue yourself!) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest James Trouble Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 Who's James Brown? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest in town Mikey Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 Who's James Brown? link I think he is a character in some films. Rex Garvin sang a song dedicated to him, called - Sock it to 'em JB, on Atlantic Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
vaultofsouler Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 Who's James Brown? link Wasn't it a name used by the snooker player Jimmy White for a bit .... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest James Trouble Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 I think he is a character in some films. Rex Garvin sang a song dedicated to him, called - Sock it to 'em JB, on Atlantic link Are you sure that's not "Sock it to them James Bond"? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Rowly Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 Who's James Brown? link Pay attention... he's the Godfather of Soul! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest in town Mikey Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 Are you sure that's not "Sock it to them James Bond"? link James Bond!! What a ridiculous idea Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 James Bond!! What a ridiculous idea link I thought James Bond was "Agent 00 SOul" - hence Sean Connery appearing in a promo film for Edwin Starr's Ric Tic release at the time..... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest James Trouble Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 James Bond!! What a ridiculous idea link Seriously, I think I'm right. There's a vocal version out there. Honest. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Kolla Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 Back all the way to the top ... what was the question again?? Oh yeh... NO! JB is the "Godfather of the one-three beat" Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest in town Mikey Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 Seriously, I think I'm right. There's a vocal version out there. Honest. link Yeah its the one I referred to. He just lists the film titles. Load of rubbish really. But I'm pretty sure the title is 'sock it to 'em JB.' Was covered by the Specials I think, poss on their 2nd album. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest rachel Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 Seriously, I think I'm right. There's a vocal version out there. Honest. link "Goldfinger.... thunderball.... casino (?)..... etc etc... James Bond!" Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 (edited) Yeah its the one I referred to. He just lists the film titles. Load of rubbish really. But I'm pretty sure the title is 'sock it to 'em JB.' Was covered by the Specials I think, poss on their 2nd album. link Maybe opinions differ... https://www.johnnyspencer.info/imagetexts06...kittoemjbRG.htm Godz Edited July 11, 2005 by Godzilla Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Kolla Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 Was covered by the Specials I think, poss on their 2nd album. link Bloody hell - forgot about that!!! I knew ALL the words at the age of ten! Are you ready for this? I told you he was coming, Who? JB, and he's ready to sock it to ya one time Dr. No, From Russia with Love, Goldfinger Thuderball, Casino Royale err a bit in the middle I've forgotten..... Diamonds are forever, Moonraker, Man with the golden gun Live and let die, The spy who loved me, You only live twice err another bit I've forgotten..... KGB, CIA, FBI, MI5, Interpol, Scotland Yard, CIA... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 Bloody hell - forgot about that!!! I knew ALL the words at the age of ten! Are you ready for this? I told you he was coming, Who? JB, and he's ready to sock it to ya one time Dr. No, From Russia with Love, Goldfinger Thuderball, Casino Royale err a bit in the middle I've forgotten..... Diamonds are forever, Moonraker, Man with the golden gun Live and let die, The spy who loved me, You only live twice err another bit I've forgotten..... KGB, CIA, FBI, MI5, Interpol, Scotland Yard, CIA... link https://www.thespecials.com/lyricview.php?sid=25 The Specials added some more words it seems Godz Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Kolla Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 Ha ha that's got all the bits I couldn't remember. Only know Specials version. 1980 - what a good year! Mhh what was JB doing then? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Soulpower Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 i just don't agree that JB is all that good, that's all, and no amount of obfuscation by german djs with axes to grind will make me change my view. First it was the Americans, now it`s the Germans. Do you have anything nice to say at all about people outside your own little cosmos? Or will you continue to flamebait? Seems like you call people names because you have nothing else to say that holds any true meaning ... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Soulpower Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 1980 - what a good year! Mhh what was JB doing then? link Don`t even ask. The lowpoint of his career .. which lasted until recently. 1980 was when JB really started loosing his mind ... which would have been easier to accept if his music was good. Unfortunately, he lost touch with soul music that year as well... at least on his records. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
vnicepce Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 HUH!!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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