After a loose conversation with a mate recently about this subject my mind started involuntary list making again - what are the top ten most expensive UK releases from the 1970's & '80's?

Excluding Frank Wilson, the 100 Club Anniversary singles and stuff on Grapevine....

Before I go to bed and without giving it alot of thought here's what immediately came to my mind:

Jones Brothers (UK Pye)

Basic Black & Pearl

Jimmy James (UK Pye) "Hey Girl"

Otis Clay (UK Red Atlantic)

Willie Fisher (UK Jama)

Gladys Knight (UK TMG)

I know there's tons I can't think of at the moment - go on help a tired mind out.

derek x

Edited June 9, 201212 yr by Derek Pearson

Tom Green - Endless Confusion - on Action.

Pioneers - My Friend James - on ICE and Mercury.

Jimmy Helms - Romeo & Juliet - on Pye

ps Otis Clay was issued in '69 so it doesn't meet the criteria.

Edited June 9, 201212 yr by pikeys dog

I'm useless on record values (way out of date on what's now in & what used to be in but has now 'gone off the boil') but a few nice UK 70's (relative) rarities are .......

Sir Ted Ford on Ardent (9001)

Sir Ted Ford on Barak (BAR 3)

The Imperials & Ray Munnings (?) on Tammi

Mickey Stevenson on Ember (EMBS 329)

Shirley Alston on London (HLA 10506)

A couple of Charles Drains on RCA (+ other UK 70's RCA stuff)

Howeefeel on Contempo (+ a couple of others on Contempo from the same Chicago source)

A few items that used to be 25p records have also shot up in price (relatively) -- the likes of The Bottom Line on GTO springs to mind).

When did the G C Cameron on Flamingo come out (80's I guess, so that will not count)

If we do slip over into the 80's, then the 4 Tops "Your Song" has to figure as well.

Lots more UK items qualify but its too early in the day for my brain to be working well (I will I still had an effective memory ... old age, I does really suck).

A few 'cheap as chips' items that shouldn't be overlooked .......

Carl Douglas -- Changing Times (Pye)

Al Matthews -- Run To You (Electric + his "People Are People" ... not so cheap)

Al Matthews -- Its Only Love (Mercury)

Alma Faye -- I Believed (Flamingo)

Delegation -- Baby You're My Mystery (State)

... 70's / 80's ???? .......

Paul Jackson -- You Made Me A Winner (Orbitone)

Craig Pruess (Ariola)

.... 80's .......

Roy Young -- You Never Had It So Good (on EMI's TSOGB inking)

Roy Young -- Love Sweeter Than Fruit (on EMI's TSOGB inking)

Oliver Cheatham -- Be Thankful For What You've Got (Champion)

Delegation -- Its Your Turn (CBS)

Delegation -- One More Step To Take (UK recording but Europe only on single)

midnight keep on walking by ariola

gil scott heron lady day &john coltrain philips

this beutiful day levi jackson columbia

james walsh gypsy band cuz its you girl rca

bobby patterson i`m in love with you action

Another that just might be jumping up in value .... now that Boba has got behind it ...

... Grand Theft -- Body Talk (Sunburst / EMI)

They are a UK 'white' group produced by Heavy Metal-ites in 1978

.... but their tracks sound very AWB-ish ... NICE !!!

I think Fork in the Road just squeezes in, although I've never seen a full blown issue only the test pressing - someone did say there is one about.

Is anyone still championing Thelma Jones's "Salty Tears" (UK CBS) ??

alma faye on a 45 isnt cheap as chips ! The 12 is common !

....RE: alma faye on a 45 isnt cheap as chips !

I have it on 45 so to me it was an easy find (back when it was a new issue; think I paid 10p for it at R&T Exch).

...... but my first post on this thread did state that I have no idea on record values anymore !!!

I think Fork in the Road just squeezes in, although I've never seen a full blown issue only the test pressing - someone did say there is one about.

There is Steve, definitely, I used it on the front cover of Beatin Rhythm 6 back in 1990, I could say where it is as well but he might not want me to so I won't.

The rarest 70's release by a mile, in and in my opinion one of the rarest 3 UK releases ever is....

Billy Harner - What about the music - Kama Sutra INSTRUMENTAL VERSION

Billy Harner - What about the music - Kama Sutra INSTRUMENTAL VERSION

A true case in point though ...... rare doesn't equate to good in any way, shape or form.

BREAKIN INTO SONG ... Gimme the moonlight, gimme me the music & ... make it the vocal version.

what is the fork in the road track you mentioned? who is it by?

what is the fork in the road track you mentioned? who is it by?

Artist - Fork In The Road

Title - Can't Turn Around Now

from Detroit GM label

most copies on the blue Ember design, hand written details.

Issue is on the black Ember label, same design as Mr Floods party (which is also rare)

what is the fork in the road track you mentioned? who is it by?

The group is called Fork In The Road and the song is "Can't Turn Around Now". Came out on GM in the U.S.......

Ian D

Jimmy James (UK Pye) "Hey Girl"

Missing You on Mojem by Jimmy James far rarer than Hey Girl & far better too IMO.

I've a record on the brown Paradox label with press release sheet....only ever seen one.Maybe Pete can remember it.

Kellee Patterson - 'I'm gonna love you just a little more' on UK Mint has got to be rareish? (it's the full length version that is only on the US promo flip as well).

Jordi

I've a record on the brown Paradox label with press release sheet....only ever seen one.Maybe Pete can remember it.

Paul Layton? Psyche thing?

The Sex Pistols God save the Queen promotional pack

A+M AMS7284

last one sold on Ebay for £12,675

there`s me thinkin we were just talkin about 70`s/ 80`s soul 45`s

To Pete... No its definately soul...a black artist.Will go through the collection later and dig it out.Brown label and Paradox written in white.There's some other UK things that are still unknown Joe Benjamin Good Morning Baby on the UPC....I sold a spare I had to Wellers bass player Andy Lewis....I've a really obscure version of Lost And Found by the Peoples Choice but by Referendum on Uk RCA...The Stuart Brown RCA 45 went for over 150 recently on Manships as well....Exotics 45 s are getting harder to find as well.

To Pete... No its definately soul...a black artist.Will go through the collection later and dig it out.Brown label and Paradox written in white.There's some other UK things that are still unknown Joe Benjamin Good Morning Baby on the UPC....I sold a spare I had to Wellers bass player Andy Lewis....I've a really obscure version of Lost And Found by the Peoples Choice but by Referendum on Uk RCA...The Stuart Brown RCA 45 went for over 150 recently on Manships as well....Exotics 45 s are getting harder to find as well.

Only other one I can find is by "Errol Daniel" but that might be reggae

This label?

That's the one....what's the Paul Layton like?

That's the one....what's the Paul Layton like?

I don't know to be honest, but I do know he was in the New Seekers!

I've only got one release down for that label.

there`s me thinkin we were just talkin about 70`s/ 80`s soul 45`s

Where did it say that ?

RE: Missing You on Mojem by Jimmy James far rarer than Hey Girl & far better too IMO.

....... can't be bad as I've also got a copy of J.J's Mojem 4 tracker that contains this cut.

(the colour of the Mojem 45 on that youtube clip ain't too close to the real shade of blue of the label).

Edited June 9, 201212 yr by Roburt

Where did it say that ?

Would have thought that as it is a thread in ALL ABOUT THE SOUL on a site called Soul Source might have explained that

RE: Missing You on Mojem by Jimmy James far rarer than Hey Girl & far better too IMO.

....... can't be bad as I've also got a copy of J.J's Mojem 4 tracker that contains this cut.

(the colour of the Mojem 45 on that youtube clip ain't too close to the real shade of blue of the label).

Bet the labels are reversed too.

Not 100% here but think Jimmy sold these direct around the clubs & were probably only around 500 pressed.

Know a few people who got them this way from him.

Noticed the colour too.

Yours got a picture cover?

Not 100% here but think Jimmy sold these direct around the clubs.....

...... I am of the same opinion; came out after Jimmy was dropped by Pye & he was still doing very regular live gigs back then (when I think he was still residing in Retford -- down near the railway stn).

Yours got a picture cover? ........

Probably had when new, but didn't have when I picked my copy up (about 10 yrs after its initial release).

..... another 10p blind buy of mine ... loads of these buys turn out to be gud recids to make frisbee's out of but a few 'fly' musically speakin'.

Billy Harner - What about the music - Kama Sutra INSTRUMENTAL VERSION

A true case in point though ...... rare doesn't equate to good in any way, shape or form.

BREAKIN INTO SONG ... Gimme the moonlight, gimme me the music & ... make it the vocal version.

billy harner..........well rare only about 6ish copies l believe

..... another 10p blind buy of mine ... loads of these buys turn out to be gud recids to make frisbee's out of but a few 'fly' musically speakin'.

Yep, same here. I did loads of blind buying in the late 70's. I used to buy 2000 UK records a time for 2p each, then cream off the interesting stuff and then sell them on for 10p each! Most of the stock tended to be UK promos which were filling up the radio stations record libraries so they'd have annual culls and dump 1000's of records into certain shops or dealers around the UK. I had major hits of this kind of stuff in Nottingham, Liverpool, Sheffield, Leeds and Harrogate from '77-'79 which included Ray Munnings, G.C. Cameron, Marva Hicks, Darlene Love, Paul Kendrick, Bo Cooper, Craig Pruess, Ruby Andrews and numerous others.

In fact, one of my jobs this summer is to go through several shelves of the UK Soul stuff and remind me of what's there again......

Ian D

Yep, same here. I did loads of blind buying in the late 70's. I used to buy 2000 UK records a time for 2p each, then cream off the interesting stuff and then sell them on for 10p each! Most of the stock tended to be UK promos which were filling up the radio stations record libraries so they'd have annual culls and dump 1000's of records into certain shops or dealers around the UK. I had major hits of this kind of stuff in Nottingham, Liverpool, Sheffield, Leeds and Harrogate from '77-'79 which included Ray Munnings, G.C. Cameron, Marva Hicks, Darlene Love, Paul Kendrick, Bo Cooper, Craig Pruess, Ruby Andrews and numerous others.

In fact, one of my jobs this summer is to go through several shelves of the UK Soul stuff and remind me of what's there again......

Ian D

The bulk of them must have ended up in the legendary Vinyl Junkie list/book.......I lent this list to Gary F and never got it back :( The best list EVER?

Would have thought that as it is a thread in ALL ABOUT THE SOUL on a site called Soul Source might have explained that

in a nutshell... anyway one of two more

drifters pour your little heart out epic

ron keith gotta go by (a & m

china burton on logo

lee vanderbilt. pick up your troubles on bell

ray merrell on jayboy

gonzalez hole in my soul rak

well they dont turn up much and go for a bit of money it would appear

Edited June 9, 201212 yr by dave pinch

How about a couple of the others on Mint : there's the Roger Hatcher & ain't there a Freddie Waters as well (think I have both here somewhere).

There are also a few nice collectable items on Alaska (some of the Cymande releases on the label seem to command decent prices).

if we slip a year into 1980; then there are some good 45's on little Notts label Rondelet that are chased after (though they cocked up with their version of the Rain bows Valley release).

More decent things on Ember from the same Detroit source as 'Fork In The Road'.

I always thought of the Chi-lites "Changing For You" (R&B Recs) as a 10p single, but that seemed to jump up in price around 5/6 years back.

At least a couple of decent outings by reggae guy Leroy Brown on EMI ..... can anyone tell me what his last 45 on EMI ("Holding Out") is like ... soul or reggae ?

the foundations on psycho used to make good money ,and Mick Smiths first choice must be worth a bob or two

Off topic posts removed. This is a SOUL site discussing SOUL music and everything about it and the scene. Please stick to what the site is about.

Where did it say that ?

There is a major clue in the name of the site and the forum this topic is in.

Larrington Walker "Joy" (UK UA)

The topic is "What are the rarest UK releases of the 70's" but most of these are just semi-rare modern soul records worth £20.

Rita Wright is quite hard

100% Pure Poison - You Keep Coming Back

larrington walker i have 2 copies of this,

anyone want one

the foundations on psycho used to make good money ,and Mick Smiths first choice must be worth a bob or two

Is First Choice a test pressing?

I won a few crates of old James Hamilton's 45s in an auction some years ago after he died, there is some weird 70s/80s stuff in there you don't see at all. I'll find some time to sort through em. Basically nearly everyone sent him their records.

Edited June 10, 201212 yr by Steve G

These are quite hard to find these days (imo).

1.Johnny Moore "Your broken heart" Towerbell.

2.Jackie Payne "I found myself" Barak.

3.Rokotto"FunkTheory" State.( a Scottish funk outfit)

4.Paradise"One mind two hearts"Priority. (the lp is is very hard to find)

the foundations on psycho used to make good money ,and Mick Smiths first choice must be worth a bob or two

Which First Choice is this?

Ian D

Which First Choice is this?

Ian D

Ian,i would have thought it would be "this the house where love died"

hope your well my friend long time no see since Dewsbury.

Toby

It is "This is the house" but I was always led to believe that it was a Pye test pressing.

Ian,i would have thought it would be "this the house where love died"

hope your well my friend long time no see since Dewsbury.

Toby

LOL, Dewsbury. Which decade was that then?

If it is "This Is The House (Where Love Died)" that surprises me. I wasn't aware that it was ever slated for a UK release. Mind you, I have a 20th Century UK acetate of R.B. Greaves "Let's Try It Again" that never came out either, so I guess anything's possible......

Ian D

Yes it was Ian and it may have even got a Pye number too (sorry my books are not with me but I have a niggling thought it did). Pete Widd was the first one I know to get onto it, and that maybe the copy Mick has. I'll ask him if I see him at Cleethorpes.