TOAD Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 just wondering whats your fave jamaican records of all time! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Cunnie Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Max Romeo - Wet Dream 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Zed1 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 (edited) just wondering whats your fave jamaican records of all time! 9.63 seconds by Usian Bolt.... Edited August 6, 2012 by Zed1 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
TOAD Posted August 6, 2012 Author Share Posted August 6, 2012 9.65 seconds by Usian Bolt.... ha ha there is a usain bolt 45 by dennis alcapone from a few years back Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Don't think I could do it, so many equal favourites, would probably include Austin Faithful - I Am Losing You and Derrick Harriott - The Loser though. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
TOAD Posted August 6, 2012 Author Share Posted August 6, 2012 Don't think I could do it, so many equal favourites, would probably include Austin Faithful - I Am Losing You and Derrick Harriott - The Loser though. do a little list Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Cunnie Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Don't think I could do it, so many equal favourites, would probably include Austin Faithful - I Am Losing You and Derrick Harriott - The Loser though. Think Derrick Harriott - The Loser would be high up on my list too Pete. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 I can't tell you how difficult this is, last week someone ask me if I'd do them every reggae / ska track I'd got and when I compiled everything, there were 47 discs (mainly dvd containing mp3's) and between 10 and 15000 tracks, thats just me and I only have a fraction, how did they manage to record so much stuff on that little island? I'll do a little list later if I can Tim Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest mickeyb Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 just wondering whats your fave jamaican records of all time! Tribesman Rockers - Joe Gibbs and the Professionals. The rest of the album (African Dub Almighty Chaper 3) is pretty good too. Angolian Chant anyone? Very fond of Carlton and the Shoes - Love me forever - from years before as well (courtesy of Steve P). Maybe pop but I love Pickney Gal (Desmond Dekker) and Long Shot (Pioneers - apparently the original riddim was the first reggae track, but who knows?). Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Tribesman Rockers - Joe Gibbs and the Professionals. The rest of the album (African Dub Almighty Chaper 3) is pretty good too. Angolian Chant anyone? Very fond of Carlton and the Shoes - Love me forever - from years before as well (courtesy of Steve P). Maybe pop but I love Pickney Gal (Desmond Dekker) and Long Shot (Pioneers - apparently the original riddim was the first reggae track, but who knows?). Theres a few tracks supposedly holding that honour, Nanny Goat, Say What You Say etc, I think Nanny Goat predates the original Long Shot. I really like that first version of Long Shot. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 A few more absolutely 5 star tunes Alton Ellis - Rock steady - treasure isle The Heptones - A change is gonna come - Studio One (Not the Sam Cooke song) Winston Francis - The break - Duke Flowers & Alvin - Your cheating heart - Coxsone Phyllis Dillon - Perfidia - Treasure Isle not forgetting really popular but brilliant stuff like Guns of Navarone, Al Capone, Double Barrel...oh man I could do a top 500 of this stuff easily 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
TOAD Posted August 6, 2012 Author Share Posted August 6, 2012 Tribesman Rockers - Joe Gibbs and the Professionals. The rest of the album (African Dub Almighty Chaper 3) is pretty good too. Angolian Chant anyone? Thats reminded me to buy vol 1 & 2 Very fond of Carlton and the Shoes - Love me forever - from years before as well (courtesy of Steve P). Maybe pop but I love Pickney Gal (Desmond Dekker) and Long Shot (Pioneers - apparently the original riddim was the first reggae track, but who knows?). Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Autumnstoned Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Still very fond of Bob & Macia - Young Gifted & Black , Desmond Dekker - It Mek/ Israelites, Nora Dean - Barbwire, Pioneers - Long Shot which are all on my mp3 player. And loads of others which used to make me want to get high and lay in a hammock. 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest mickeyb Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 A few more absolutely 5 star tunes Alton Ellis - Rock steady - treasure isle The Heptones - A change is gonna come - Studio One (Not the Sam Cooke song) Winston Francis - The break - Duke Flowers & Alvin - Your cheating heart - Coxsone Phyllis Dillon - Perfidia - Treasure Isle not forgetting really popular but brilliant stuff like Guns of Navarone, Al Capone, Double Barrel...oh man I could do a top 500 of this stuff easily Do the 500 Pete! Still love Guns of Navarone - it's one of the default options on the commute when I've got nothing else in my head -still so is Swan Lake by The Cats Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
De-to Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01lk5b9 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
TOAD Posted August 6, 2012 Author Share Posted August 6, 2012 https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01lk5b9 Thanks for that link will listen later 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest sharmo 1 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 I'll have to think long and hard over this one Tim probably wednesday as I've got a lot of fire wood orders to do respect Timbo , Simon. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Roburt Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 If you think you'd like a few reggae tracks on your mp3 player but don't want to pay too much in case you don't grow to like them ..... ... then go here to get 10 Trojan related tracks ............ for FREE ................. ... https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/feature.html/ref=pe_13041_31167871_pe_pack11/?docId=1000662243&ie=UTF8 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Thanks for that link will listen later Yet another show dominated by The Wailers, both group and solo, do they think there can't be a reggae program that's not reliant on Bob & co? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
dean jj Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 (edited) Impossible to pick one fave track from any genre [imagine any half hip soul boy trying to pick 8 for 'desert island discs'] but in the interest of team spirit these are the 45's of Jamaican origin piled by the downstairs record player in our house this week: BIG WILLIE 'COLLEGE ROCK' [iRON SIDE] TECHNIQUES 'BORN TO LOVE YOU' [bLANK] LARRY MARSHALL 'I'VE GOT TO MAKE IT' [sTUDIO ONE] [ ANTHONY ELLIS 'I AM THE RULER' [sTUDIO ONE] BIG YOUTH + JUNIOR BYLES 'SUGAR SUGAR' [TANASHA] TONY BRAVETT 'I'M SO ASHAMED' [bULLET UK] DENNIS WALKS 'DRIFTER' [MOODISC] TECHNIQUES 'IT'S YOU I LOVE' [DUKE REID] Makes a change from listening to soul records...though few records are as soulful as the Tony Bravett. cheers dean Edited August 8, 2012 by dean jj 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 TECHNIQUES 'IT'S YOU I LOVE' [DUKE REID] THis is one my favourites also and I think one of the most beautiful records ever made HOWEVER the original Jamaican single and the one that came out on UK Treasure Isle is just 'great', the version on the Techniques Greatest Hits cd and a couple of other Treasure Isle reissues, which don't have that guitar to the front, is 'unbelievable'. The difference is like chalk and cheese. The second version is below. Beautiful. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest TONY ROUNCE Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 (edited) THis is one my favourites also and I think one of the most beautiful records ever made HOWEVER the original Jamaican single and the one that came out on UK Treasure Isle is just 'great', the version on the Techniques Greatest Hits cd and a couple of other Treasure Isle reissues, which don't have that guitar to the front, is 'unbelievable'. The difference is like chalk and cheese. The second version is below. Beautiful. Pete's been picking many of my favourites for me... ...but I can't agree that the 'other' version of 'It's You I Love' is better than the one on UK Treasure Isle in any way shape or form. Ditto the alternate take of 'Travelling Man' that has been issued a few times on later pressings of the record. The vocals on both are just so lacklustre compared to those on the UK TI 45 To me they almost sound ike a rehearsal that wwas preserved for posterity and issued later by accident. For years it was Bob Andy's 'You Don't Know' (the orginal Harry J recording, as opposed to Bob's revoicing of the original rhythm in London in 1972) - but I honestly couldn't say what my all time favourite Ja 45 would be anymore, other than that it would either be something from the rocksteady era, or from the 1970-72 period that was is and always will be the golden era of reggae (as opposed to rocksteady or ska...). Let's go for 'Baby Love' by the Sensations (Treasure Isle - 1968) from the rocksteady era and Leroy Smart's 'God Helps The Man' (Jackpot - 1972) from the other one, and see how that sits with everybody. Edited August 8, 2012 by TONY ROUNCE Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Pete's been picking many of my favourites for me... ...but I can't agree that the 'other' version of 'It's You I Love' is better than the one on UK Treasure Isle in any way shape or form. Ditto the alternate take of 'Travelling Man' that has been issued a few times on later pressings of the record. The vocals on both are just so lacklustre compared to those on the UK TI 45 To me they almost sound ike a rehearsal that wwas preserved for posterity and issued later by accident. Are we talking about the same record here, the UK TI one has a really intrusive electric guitar all over it - you mean you prefer that one? Really? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete Jay Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Like everyone said too many great tunes, but Alton Ellis 'I'm still in love with you' is one that sticks out - remember seeing him perform it at the Leeds Carnival in August 2008. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulman Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 (edited) I can't tell you how difficult this is, last week someone ask me if I'd do them every reggae / ska track I'd got and when I compiled everything, there were 47 discs (mainly dvd containing mp3's) and between 10 and 15000 tracks, thats just me and I only have a fraction, how did they manage to record so much stuff on that little island? I'll do a little list later if I can Tim Dey chill... dey gat plenty time on dey're hands and da one ting dat meks em excited is da music. Na wher's me smoke Edited August 8, 2012 by soulman Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest TONY ROUNCE Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Are we talking about the same record here, the UK TI one has a really intrusive electric guitar all over it - you mean you prefer that one? Really? ...Really! The vocals are much more assured on what I regard as the 'proper' version, and the 'Really Really Love You' chorus is much more memorable than the rather weak 'It's You It's You, It's You i Love' on the other take. I hadn't ever noticed any extraneous guitar on it and I've been loving my UK copy since since I picked it up in a junkshop on a sunny saturday morning on Caledonian Road, along with my first copy of Alton Ellis' 'Can i Change My Mind', in the summer of 1972. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
TOAD Posted August 8, 2012 Author Share Posted August 8, 2012 ok one TOP LP from me that i could play on repeat -dennis alcapone " forever version" studio one and extended on a heartbeat cd ! If you dont know get to know, not a weak track on it Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 ...Really! The vocals are much more assured on what I regard as the 'proper' version, and the 'Really Really Love You' chorus is much more memorable than the rather weak 'It's You It's You, It's You i Love' on the other take. I hadn't ever noticed any extraneous guitar on it and I've been loving my UK copy since since I picked it up in a junkshop on a sunny saturday morning on Caledonian Road, along with my first copy of Alton Ellis' 'Can i Change My Mind', in the summer of 1972. Tone the guitar is what ruins the track, for me anyway....if you can't hear the difference between this take below and the one I put up previously then there's something up! This Really Really Love You version is very poor in comparison with the other version. Different strokes etc... :-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLFv78tge5M Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garethx Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 I think the guitar playing on that record is absolutely beautiful and a long way away from being intrusive. As you say Pete: different strokes! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 I think the guitar playing on that record is absolutely beautiful and a long way away from being intrusive. As you say Pete: different strokes! Maybe because I heard the second version first, it's perfect as it is without that guitar. I remember paying God knows how much for a UK copy, finding it had the guitar on it and I sold it within 2 weeks LOL got myself a carver cut of the other version. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 It's impossible to do a top 5 like this, I could do a top 20 just of Alton Ellis tracks, I think if I was going to make any top anything I'd have to do it as separate categories, reggae's been through quite a lot of changes in it's 50 year history. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest TONY ROUNCE Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Tone the guitar is what ruins the track, for me anyway....if you can't hear the difference between this take below and the one I put up previously then there's something up! This Really Really Love You version is very poor in comparison with the other version. Different strokes etc... :-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLFv78tge5M Cheers, mate, you've just proved my point for me! The guitar work here is some of (I believe) Ernest Ranglin's most lyrical and melodic, and complements the exquisite singing magnificently. For me, rocksteady doesn't get a whole lot better than what's heard here. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Cheers, mate, you've just proved my point for me! The guitar work here is some of (I believe) Ernest Ranglin's most lyrical and melodic, and complements the exquisite singing magnificently. For me, rocksteady doesn't get a whole lot better than what's heard here. Oh but it does! And I'll prove it after me dinners gone down LOL Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest TONY ROUNCE Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 (edited) Here's a fantastic Jamaican record that really IS almost ruined by some totally unspeakable guitar work: ...sounds like the anonymous strummer is playing his axe with his toes. Fortunately he's not featured all through the track, just at the beginning, middle and end... Edited August 8, 2012 by TONY ROUNCE Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
dean jj Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 The techniques record in the front room is on a duke reid greatest hits ja 45 and has the loud 'really really love you' chorus. I like it 'cuss its the one that is in the front room. works for me! dean Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Polyvelts Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Trinity - 'three piece suit' Was massive in Birmingam when I was a youth man. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Johnmcc Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Version of 1, 2, 3 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
TOAD Posted August 9, 2012 Author Share Posted August 9, 2012 U roy VERSION GALORE treasure isle lp all killers no fillers the first dj lp ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Trev Thomas Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 don carlos - just a passing glance freddie mckay - creation rebel wailing souls - back out gregory isaacs - objection overulled larry marshall - throw me corn Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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