Ljblanken Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 i was just thinking of boots and how people try and make them look "real". have you ever noticed BB holes in boots to make them look legit? i don't know that i've ever seen one. would that be hard to do? (i always heard they ran a heated rod through a stack of records at the factory to make BB holes) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
kevinsoulman Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 think its walk like a man has a black spot on the boot must have photocopied the label from an original with a drill hole kev Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Seen quite a lot of records with 'fake' drill holes, when we first saw these things we even tried putting holes through British releases 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mick Holdsworth Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 think its walk like a man has a black spot on the boot must have photocopied the label from an original with a drill hole kev As does the WD boot of Walter Jackson - Where Have All The Flowers Gone. I can't recall any boots that have been holed, but as Pete says he's seen some, they must out there. Although I know what the hole is for, why are they called "BB" holes - I'm sure it's obvious, but can't work it out. (it took me many years to find out what c/w and b/w actually stood for, probably as late as 1980 before it finally dawned on me, so I was simply years behind on that. A small digression, but I still haven't got a clue what "sic" means. Seen it a lot in listings etc. is it something to do with a sticker mark ? Cheers Mick 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kegsy Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Although I know what the hole is for, why are they called "BB" holes - I'm sure it's obvious, but can't work it out. (it took me many years to find out what c/w and b/w actually stood for, probably as late as 1980 before it finally dawned on me, so I was simply years behind on that. Cheers Mick Always thought BB was for ball bearing where the records were holed with one fired through them. Kegsy Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Dave Turner Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Always thought BB was for ball bearing where the records were holed with one fired through them. Kegsy It is - BB gun Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simon T Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Salvadors - the green lookalike ones Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike Lofthouse Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 As does the WD boot of Walter Jackson - Where Have All The Flowers Gone. I can't recall any boots that have been holed, but as Pete says he's seen some, they must out there. Although I know what the hole is for, why are they called "BB" holes - I'm sure it's obvious, but can't work it out. (it took me many years to find out what c/w and b/w actually stood for, probably as late as 1980 before it finally dawned on me, so I was simply years behind on that. A small digression, but I still haven't got a clue what "sic" means. Seen it a lot in listings etc. is it something to do with a sticker mark ? Cheers Mick Think the hole resembles the hole created by a BB gun - I guess the US name for an air gun. BB does not stand for ball bearing but 'BB' is the size of shotgun shot used in the original guns - think it is coincidental that some guns are able to fire the 'correct' size ball bearings! re 'SIC' - not seen it myself to indicate condition - are you sure the sellers are not just using it in its true sense i.e. to indicate it is written as is? Mike Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Barry Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 As does the WD boot of Walter Jackson - Where Have All The Flowers Gone. I can't recall any boots that have been holed, but as Pete says he's seen some, they must out there. Although I know what the hole is for, why are they called "BB" holes - I'm sure it's obvious, but can't work it out. (it took me many years to find out what c/w and b/w actually stood for, probably as late as 1980 before it finally dawned on me, so I was simply years behind on that. A small digression, but I still haven't got a clue what "sic" means. Seen it a lot in listings etc. is it something to do with a sticker mark ? Cheers Mick Sic in brackets after something generally denotes a grammatical error/spelling mistake. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 (edited) I recall reading in the Manship bootleg guide of a particular bootleg which had a bb hole. It was doubly unusual because it was a demo, which would not normally have these holes. Have just checked and it's a bootleg of Darrell Banks - Angel Baby on Atco. Apparently this bootleg came with a bb hole and Atco company sleeve. Anyone post a scan please? Cheers Richard Edited December 26, 2013 by Premium Stuff Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Matt Male Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Sic in brackets after something generally denotes a grammatical error/spelling mistake. That's right Barry, it's not a record dealer thing it's an English thing which means the writer has copied the original word even though it's misspelt. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Barry Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 That's right Barry, it's not a record dealer thing it's an English thing which means the writer has copied the original word even though it's misspelt. I know Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 As above: it's when you know something is spelt wrong but use it because that's how it's written e.g. Let's All Do The Shotgunn (sic) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Sic in full is sic erat scriptum "thus was it written" Cheers Richard Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
kevinsoulman Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 As does the WD boot of Walter Jackson - Where Have All The Flowers Gone. I can't recall any boots that have been holed, but as Pete says he's seen some, they must out there. Although I know what the hole is for, why are they called "BB" holes - I'm sure it's obvious, but can't work it out. (it took me many years to find out what c/w and b/w actually stood for, probably as late as 1980 before it finally dawned on me, so I was simply years behind on that. A small digression, but I still haven't got a clue what "sic" means. Seen it a lot in listings etc. is it something to do with a sticker mark ? Cheers Mick thats the one i was thinking of muddled brain kev Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest east rob Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Sic in full is sic erat scriptum "thus was it written" Cheers Richard Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Matt Male Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 I don't know who wrote this, but it's not a bad glossary. https://vinylville.tripod.com/faq-1.html Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
NEV Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 As does the WD boot of Walter Jackson - Where Have All The Flowers Gone. I can't recall any boots that have been holed, but as Pete says he's seen some, they must out there. Although I know what the hole is for, why are they called "BB" holes - I'm sure it's obvious, but can't work it out. (it took me many years to find out what c/w and b/w actually stood for, probably as late as 1980 before it finally dawned on me, so I was simply years behind on that. A small digression, but I still haven't got a clue what "sic" means. Seen it a lot in listings etc. is it something to do with a sticker mark ? Cheers Mick Hi Mick ,always thought the reference was DH as in drill hole ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Hi Mick ,always thought the reference was DH as in drill hole ? DH is generally UK, all old US lists used to have it as BB Hole Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike Lofthouse Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 I love this forum sometimes - four people have defined 'sic' after I did Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 I love this forum sometimes - four people have defined 'sic' after I did Try this then mate Sick [sic] slang definition ... crazy, cool, insane Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike Lofthouse Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Try this then mate Sick [sic] slang definition ... crazy, cool, insane don't get it! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
NEV Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 don't get it! Phat Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 BB is probably the term used after the size of the shot used in a BB Gun I would assume. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 I love this forum sometimes - four people have defined 'sic' after I did Embellished your answer Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike Lofthouse Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 (edited) BB is probably the term used after the size of the shot used in a BB Gun I would assume. you're a funny guy Chalky! Edited December 26, 2013 by Mike Lofthouse Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike Lofthouse Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Phat don't get that either! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Matt Male Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 (edited) Those bb holes? I'm guessing they were named after BB guns? I'm just guessing like... I can't be arsed to read the rest of the thread but has anyone worked out what sic means yet? Edited December 26, 2013 by Matt Male Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike Lofthouse Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Those bb holes? I'm guessing they were named after BB guns? I'm just guessing like... I can't be arsed to read the rest of the thread but has anyone worked out what sic means yet? PMSL Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Airfixkid Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 they are drill holes , caused by a drill. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Dave Turner Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Simple really, it's like balancing the wheels on yer motor. A select group of 45s were factory aligned and therefore drilled to create the correct balance to spin at exactly 45rpm with the least amount of wind drag. The sound from these individually and highly prized hand calibrated recordings is far superior to standard pressings Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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