must be m- vinyl

cheers

Edited July 27, 200619 yr by rachel

hi mark recovered from cleethorpes yet

record your after wont be too hard to find there was two copies at the last stoke my mate bought one of em try sean chapman think he had the other & me thinks joey dunlop has one or could be ally's gaz

Beware the re-issue mate, slightly different coloured label & different credits, original withdrawn & redone as credits wernt correct on originals, Danny Huff bought the re-issues back from the US some years ago.

Good luck

Russ

Beware the re-issue mate, slightly different coloured label & different credits, original withdrawn & redone as credits wernt correct on originals, Danny Huff bought the re-issues back from the US some years ago.

Good luck

Russ

Hi Russ

Do you mean the one Searling would have played covered up was quite rare then,because if it was then someone in Scandanavia has got a bargain. I had Searlings old copy came from Andy Spencer via Dave Knight.

ted

Beware the re-issue mate, slightly different coloured label & different credits, original withdrawn & redone as credits wernt correct on originals, Danny Huff bought the re-issues back from the US some years ago.

Good luck

Russ

What the differences then, just out of interest?

Ta.

What the differences then, just out of interest?

Ta.

The originals are a very slightly different shade of label colour & there are differences in the credits. Danny Huff got these 10-12 yrs ago, maybe more. I saw the different copies together, so know this to be true, but my memory is not what it was, there was something about a band member/writer not getting mentioned on the label credits on the original press, so they were withdrawn & redone with the correct credits.

Can JM, Pete S or Chalky confirm this or have I imagined the whole thing, bunch of moustachioed hairy gits anyway.

BTW anyone remember Danny or seen anything of him, saw him at the 100 Club some years ago but not lately ????.

Russ

Sian, who is on here as NaisyGriff is still in touch with Danny.

I will give her a nudge and let you know

The originals are a very slightly different shade of label colour & there are differences in the credits. Danny Huff got these 10-12 yrs ago, maybe more. I saw the different copies together, so know this to be true, but my memory is not what it was, there was something about a band member/writer not getting mentioned on the label credits on the original press, so they were withdrawn & redone with the correct credits.

Can JM, Pete S or Chalky confirm this or have I imagined the whole thing, bunch of moustachioed hairy gits anyway.

BTW anyone remember Danny or seen anything of him, saw him at the 100 Club some years ago but not lately ????.

Russ

Surely the corrected issue is the original,and no reissue?,and the so called "original",just a mistake so why is the 1st corrected press not goodenough, why is it a reissue?,there are loads of mispelt records out there,all originals along with the ones with the correct spelt ones unless the mis-spelt ones are special "Yorkshire" issues.

Ken

Surely the corrected issue is the original,and no reissue?,and the so called "original",just a mistake so why is the 1st corrected press not goodenough, why is it a reissue?,there are loads of mispelt records out there,all originals along with the ones with the correct spelt ones unless the mis-spelt ones are special "Yorkshire" issues.

Ken

Personally Ken I dont care, dont even like the record, but its just one of those things that not many people seem to be aware of & I was just making sure Mark knew, he can then do what he likes. Maybe I have confused the situation with my choice of words ie issue, reissue, all I was doing was trying to make the difference between the two & generally speaking the first press is known as the 'original'. More than happy for you to make up your own names. All I was intending was for the information to be in the Public Domain, so buyers can make informed choices.

Hope thats ok with you ,you miseable git .

Russ

Sian, who is on here as NaisyGriff is still in touch with Danny.

I will give her a nudge and let you know

Cheers mate

Russ

Edited July 3, 200619 yr by Russ Vickers

Hi Russ

Do you mean the one Searling would have played covered up was quite rare then,because if it was then someone in Scandanavia has got a bargain. I had Searlings old copy came from Andy Spencer via Dave Knight.

ted

That would be me!

Still got it and I also saved the letter with its history as I've learned to do watching the Swedish version of The Antiques Roadshow.

i've got a copy now, and i've compared it to another copy which has a slightly different label

the differences are:

one copy is heavier (ie: thicker) with darker blue print and the composer credits for thats the way are "Watkins Carnobi" - rather than "Reave Watkins", as on the one with the lighter blue print (both have grey label - very little difference in colour, if any)

both are pressed off the same plates btw

does anyone know which is the earliest issue?

Topic moved and retitled as requested by topic starter

i've got a copy now, and i've compared it to another copy which has a slightly different label

the differences are:

one copy is heavier (ie: thicker) with darker blue print and the composer credits for thats the way are "Watkins Carnobi" - rather than "Reave Watkins", as on the one with the lighter blue print (both have grey label - very little difference in colour, if any)

both are pressed off the same plates btw

does anyone know which is the earliest issue?

The one I bought from Ted wich was the exact copy that Richard Searling had covered up at the casino has Reave Watkins in the credits so I guess that that was the first issue.

But as the record was pressed in the sixties but played in the seventies I can't be 100% sure.

out of interest, do you know what it was covered-up as?

out of interest, do you know what it was covered-up as?

James Lewis IIRC

James Lewis IIRC

what's IIRC?

what's IIRC?

sorry, it's net shorthand for "If I Remember Correctly" - I was in a bit of a rush when I typed the first reply

BTW anyone remember Danny or seen anything of him, saw him at the 100 Club some years ago but not lately ????.

Russ

I had a text from Danny Huff yesterday, so if you've not got hold of him yet then PM me and I'll give you his number.

Lee

I had a text from Danny Huff yesterday, so if you've not got hold of him yet then PM me and I'll give you his number.

Lee

On the subject of people from Swindon any idea what happened to Jools who used to knock around with Danny a bit and never had any socks, he used to work in a fishing shop?

Anybody know the history of the group / label?

No?

The originals are a very slightly different shade of label colour & there are differences in the credits. Danny Huff got these 10-12 yrs ago, maybe more. I saw the different copies together, so know this to be true, but my memory is not what it was, there was something about a band member/writer not getting mentioned on the label credits on the original press, so they were withdrawn & redone with the correct credits.

Can JM, Pete S or Chalky confirm this or have I imagined the whole thing, bunch of moustachioed hairy gits anyway.

BTW anyone remember Danny or seen anything of him, saw him at the 100 Club some years ago but not lately ????.

Russ

Saw him and Greg Fay about 5 months ago...he seems fine.

Hello Russ hope your well mate

Saw Danny at my night RnB123 earlier in the month his well and still

dancing his socks off if i see him ill let him know

your askin after him

Al

Anybody know the history of the group / label?

The Q/Hound records were from New Orleans I think (sure I remember that from somewhere), can probably get some info off some local forum boards, or try somebody from offbeat magazine. The mag only started in 1988 but they have been trying to catalogue the history of the local music scene, rock, jazz, blues etc.

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Edited February 27, 201312 yr by MrC

Cheers. Just emailed offbeat. All I can find meantime on web is an auction on collectors frenzy advertising it as from New Orleans.

Edited February 27, 201312 yr by Windlesoul

Saw him and Greg Fay about 5 months ago...he seems fine.

Hello Russ hope your well mate

Saw Danny at my night RnB123 earlier in the month his well and still

dancing his socks off if i see him ill let him know

your askin after him

Al

Cheers guys, if you see him again say hi from me, whats he up to these days ?

Best Russ

Can JM, Pete S or Chalky confirm this or have I imagined the whole thing, bunch of moustachioed hairy gits anyway.

 

 

Having got one of these today, an 'original', it certainly does have a different, heavier feel to it than the other one and the colouring of the label and lettering is different too.

I sold mine to some one from Norway/ sweden i know that was a goodun as it was Searlings old copy

was it  lars goodun from sveden

Price please for the first release anyone?

Seen 'em go for £80 - £120.

I got mine from anglo american in the 90s, i had to pay a whopping £35 for it, doh!!!

£150 generally.

£150 generally.

 

That's about right at the moment.

150

Merci.

Reave Watkins seemed to have a big hand in The "Q" record.

I'd guess that he was this guy (though there are a few Reave Watkin's across the US even though it can't be that common a name) ..........

Reave M Watkins, 952 Bethany Tpke, Honesdale, PA 18431

The above guy probably originated in Pittsburgh (where quite a few Watkins still live) and seemed to spend his college years in the New Orleans area.

 

Might be worth contacting  him to check out if he is the right guy to get The "Q" info from.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Phone number removed and slight edit made to text to reflect this.

Although it is possible that this Reave Watkins was involved in the 45, it is by no means certain.

Imagine how miffed you would be if you started receiving unsolicited phone calls about something someone else did 40+ years ago.

so what we are actually saying is there are two differnt pressings of this... one with watkins carnobi and another credited to reave watkins.... both were  done in the late sixties and both are worth £150 ish......just to summerise

so what we are actually saying is there are two differnt pressings of this... one with watkins carnobi and another credited to reave watkins.... both were  done in the late sixties and both are worth £150 ish......just to summerise

 

I'm a bit surprised the second press is worth as much as the first though..

I would have thought £100 to £125 for the more common of the two.

I'm a bit surprised the second press is worth as much as the first though..

Its because most didnt/dont realise there were two presses Pete...

 

Russ

This has left me somewhat confused (yes I know it's not hard)?All I know is I played my Reave Watkins copy at York last week.....to an empty floor

Cheers

Martyn

This has left me somewhat confused (yes I know it's not hard)?All I know is I played my Reave Watkins copy at York last week.....to an empty floor

Cheers

Martyn

Martyn that's cos it so bloody hard to dance to.

Spot.