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I just got a tape through of a storming mid 60s out and out Northern track. Once it's cleared I'll play it at the 100 Club but following Matt's thread I'm wondering if many people will get as big a buzz from it as I do.

 

I think the oldies crowd are mainly happy to relive their youth and if a new Frank Wilson record were discovered, probably wouldn't bother to listen. The rarer soul crowd don't seem to get excited about tape discoveries as they are never going to be able to collect them in original form and when they get issued on a UK 45 don't bother with it because its not vintage US pressing. Even when records go on to the anniversary single the DJs don't usually pick up on them. I remember Richard Searling and many others raving about Dean Courtney's 'Today Is My Day', describing it as an ultimate Wigan record, yet once it was on 45 nobody bothered, and that was with Sharon Scott's sublime 'Putting My Heart Under Lock & Key' on the flip.

 

Records like Luther Ingram 'Oh Baby Don't You Weep' did go big but it was mainly down to the mod scene rather than the Northern. Oddly a lot of the new 100 Clubbers seem keener on the funk edge or R&B than the classic Northern sound. They are open-minded and enjoy it all but their preferences are different to those of us who grew up through the 70s.

 

I'm not bemoaning it, just observing and putting a plug in for people to pick up on some of the old Kent and 100 Club anniversary singles and actually play them out; I think a lot of them deserve some spins and they would be new classic Northern for dancers who must be bored with the top 500 by now.

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The reality is the majority want to hear the same old tunes that have filled the dance floors a thousand times , boring I know but its almost like some people want a predictable sound track for a night out .

 

 

 

 

Go to Refosoul forum and check out the most viewed posts for uploaded tracks. It's very telling. Here's the "Top 10" most popular in reverse order...

 

10 - Eddie Parker - Love you baby

09 - Jo Armstead - I feel an urge coming on

08 - Gloria Jones - Tainted love

07 - George Carrow - Angel baby

06 - Superlatives - I still love you

05 - Jimmy Ruffin - What becomes of the broken hearted

04 - Mr Floods Party - Compared to what

03 - The Platters - Washed ashore

02 - Pages - Heartaches and pain

01 - Sam & Kitty - I've got something good

 

Even here on Soul Source, oldies rule… 

Maybe a regular Sunday all dayer would be a good bet to showcase newies or records that appeal to a slightly older crowd. I started going to 100 Club about 30 years ago but haven't been much in recent years for job, health and relationship reasons..Staying out until 8am has not been an option for years...It's a big ask! So partly lost interest in buying records as 'the scene' doesn't really cater to me. Would love to hear the records you are all talking about though and sure felliw dropouts and their partners / friends would come along something slightly more convenient, less fanatical and more laid back..As well as the younger punters.Everyone spends Sunday afternoon in the pub anyway...

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Go to Refosoul forum and check out the most viewed posts for uploaded tracks. It's very telling. Here's the "Top 10" most popular in reverse order...

 

10 - Eddie Parker - Love you baby

09 - Jo Armstead - I feel an urge coming on

08 - Gloria Jones - Tainted love

07 - George Carrow - Angel baby

06 - Superlatives - I still love you

05 - Jimmy Ruffin - What becomes of the broken hearted

04 - Mr Floods Party - Compared to what

03 - The Platters - Washed ashore

02 - Pages - Heartaches and pain

01 - Sam & Kitty - I've got something good

 

Even here on Soul Source, oldies rule… 

 

That is unbelievable   :ohmy:  :ohmy:  :ohmy:

Go to Refosoul forum and check out the most viewed posts for uploaded tracks. It's very telling. Here's the "Top 10" most popular in reverse order...

 

10 - Eddie Parker - Love you baby

09 - Jo Armstead - I feel an urge coming on

08 - Gloria Jones - Tainted love

07 - George Carrow - Angel baby

06 - Superlatives - I still love you

05 - Jimmy Ruffin - What becomes of the broken hearted

04 - Mr Floods Party - Compared to what

03 - The Platters - Washed ashore

02 - Pages - Heartaches and pain

01 - Sam & Kitty - I've got something good

 

Even here on Soul Source, oldies rule… 

 

they are all label info posts/views figures

not actual plays/downloads

 

eg 

 

they are all label info posts/views figures

not actual plays/downloads

 

eg 

 

Understood, Mike. Hence my wording. Is there a means to find the most plays/downloads? 

 

At the end of the day, though, don't the number of views indicate what songs have been of most interest to Soul Source visitors regardless of whether it's a label scan or a song file? 

 

And beyond that, is there the possibility to use refosoul view stats as a sort of metric for what's "trending" and what's perennially popular?

 

Could it replace the cliched "top 500" list by being a more accurate reflection of what is currently hot and what oldies are still doing the business?

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Understood, Mike. Hence my wording. Is there a means to find the most plays/downloads? 

 

At the end of the day, though, don't the the number of views indicate what songs have been of most interest to Soul Source visitors regardless of whether it's a label scan or a song file? 

 

And beyond that, isn't there the possibility to use refosoul view stats as a sort of metric for what's "trending" and what's perennially popular?

 

to be honest Russell

refosoul doesn't get used that much nowadays for any of the above

you can use it as a research tool as with the live search you can quickly get to current ebay/ popsike/forum info etc etc info off it

but not many do

to be honest Russell

refosoul doesn't get used that much nowadays for any of the above

you can use it as a research tool as with the live search you can quickly get to current ebay/ popsike/forum info etc etc info off it

but not many do

Hmm, that's what I vaguely thought. Thanks for confirming.

 

I added four unreleased/acetate tracks recently and none have had any sort of interest as the likes of classics such as Bobby Freeman's "Swim". Can't believe that no one's interested in unreleased track by Nat Hall, Major Lance or whoever!

 

My YouTube channel stats also show that while the forum list indicates multiple views, the reality is that people click on the refosoul page but don't click through and listen to the actual sound file.

 

I'd like to add all my YouTube "unreleased/acetate" clips to refosoul for the sake of making them more available (especially in light of Ady's "no one wants newies" thread), but at the moment it hardly seems worth the effort. Any suggestions as to how to make them more accessible or interesting to Soul Source members?

Hmm, that's what I vaguely thought. Thanks for confirming.

 

I added four unreleased/acetate tracks recently and none have had any sort of interest as the likes of classics such as Bobby Freeman's "Swim". Can't believe that no one's interested in unreleased track by Nat Hall, Major Lance or whoever!

 

My YouTube channel stats also show that while the forum list indicates multiple views, the reality is that people click on the refosoul page but don't click through and listen to the actual sound file.

 

I'd like to add all my YouTube "unreleased/acetate" clips to refosoul for the sake of making them more available (especially in light of Ady's "no one wants newies" thread), but at the moment it hardly seems worth the effort. Any suggestions as to how to make them more accessible or interesting to Soul Source members?

 

the refosoul forum at current times is more of an announcement forum for the refosoul feature rather than a discussion based one

shouldn't really use the forum views as a guide as some of the forum posts you mention are from the likes of 2008 originally 

 

best place for discussion on the tracks would be via new threads in the "box" forum

the refosoul feature is nowadays more of a reference tool  :thumbsup:

I cannot offer an answer for anyone other than myself...

 

But to answer Ady's original post I do still want to hear 60s newies..

 

The new Brent CD has some truly great tracks.

 

Regards

Have a listen on You Tube, it's a well wicked 1965/6 production by HB Barnum

Had a listen ,and yep ,now I understand

 

Bazza  

Nice to see #9 in that Top 10 as headlining our Dig Deeper New Years Eve show this year is none other than the lovely Jo Armstead herself, come to NYC and start off 2015 in style  :thumbsup:

Was in a store today and they were playing the new Ace CD of Brent/Time/Shad recordings...the unissued tracks on that will prick a few ears up!

Loving the Jeannie Trevor and June Jackson tunes...could've been recorded with the 100 Club in mind! :yes:

I'm really getting back into that stuff at the moment.

Good for you...the prices for the big production NYC numbers have gone down as they're currently not in vogue...but my they sound soooo right down the hallowed stairs. Don't hold back Joel...get that movement going and drop that wishy washy funky stuff!

:thumbup:

Edited by Flynny

! Just thought of another one that i still like to play /hear  is the Jan Jones - cut loose ... absolutely fantastic ! keep em coming even if it costs the company money , let the good selling alternative music styles finance the soul stuff the dedicated niter/soul public deserves and have earned the right to have the pleasure of Kent's and other modern day reissue logos finds. 

Do you mean Jeanette Jones - Cut loose,  fabulous track, would I be right in thinking this was originally spun by Ian Clark on Acetate? seem to remember this being discussed ages ago.. I dont go to many soul do's, but add my name to the 'Hell yes, we want em!' camp...

 

brilliant music, all of it...

 

Mal:_)

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All I can say, your missing out on some great uptempo funky dancers, but hey ho that's your choice

Nah Tim i'm not just don't want to hear them at the 100 club ... but if I did I know where to go in my record collection to find them

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