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This may be a merger from the 'Will the real' thread.....but breaking news on Simon Soussan, the notorious, creative and often misunderstood character from the 70's.

He is alive and well. Ian Levine disclosed information to me a short while ago and it's pretty conclusive. I too have exchanged emails with the man.

Updates as we get them......

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    • Ady Croasdell
      Ady Croasdell

      I think it's very interesting he's around and I'd be glad to hear some genuine true stories but it's going to be incredibly hard to know if anything he says will be true. Unless he's had a major chara

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      Amsterdam Russ

      I find it rather funny that people want to stigmatise someone for acts committed several decades ago when the scene - and indeed this forum - is awash with stories of criminal acts that include drug d

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      Steve S 60

        Was that the time they popped into the motorway services for something to eat on their way to Manchester?  Ike was so incensed by the standard of food that he was moved to pen a ditty wh

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    Ian Are you sure Susanne DePasse was not horrified by the original plan to release it on a 12" picture disc with photos of Northern Soul DJ's?!!!  I can still remember the late phone call from you and Simon, coming up with the plan and I went back to bed shaking my head. I think it was going to be Northern Soul medley to begin with (?), and you came up with  the concept of making it a Motown Medley. Can you imagine how awful a NS medley would have been?

     

    I can also remember you calling me from LA after you had seen Susanne.

     

    Then of course Simon got more backers for the records than there were shares...I think he must have seen the film "The Producers". He well and truly ripped us of on it.

     

    Yep. We probably got stung more than anyone when you add it up. However, I'm sure S.S. got screwed by Soultrain. That whole thing was just a circle of sharks wasn't it? 

     

    Ian D  :D

    Doni Burdick was a backing track from a 1965 recording so he had ball all to do with it and didn't deserve a cent. Love And Desire's Billy Page, nothing to do with Sidney if you're talking Patrice Holloway. Writers and artists don't get paid for the original releases unless they sell in reasonable quantities

     

    I've never been clear on the relationship between "Bari Track" and the instrumental version of "I miss my baby" which was on a Goldmine "Groovesville Review" CD.  

    Are they exactly the same recording, just taken from different  copies of the master tape or something?

    Has Doni Burdock got anything to do with the record at all? 

    Was'nt what I meant, although rereading my post it does,

     

    DG quite innocently asked all B&S readers to tell him there favorite sounds, MY collection went a whole new direction when he started printing them in his column.

     

    What I meant was that a magazine had published details of sounds, entireley innocent of ulterior motive other than getting it across to a wider audiance, especiaslly the NS starved South of the UK, and the unscrupulous had a ready made data base of sounds that were on everybodies wish list at the time, and possibly factored it into their release policy.

    Possibly, we'd have to ask Batman who is in the Antipodes I think. He was a hard-core nighter goer and knew his sounds from there probably more than B&S

    Possibly, we'd have to ask Batman who is in the Antipodes I think. He was a hard-core nighter goer and knew his sounds from there probably more than B&S

     

    BUT were'nt we all at the time, hard core nighter goers, but not very knowlegable music wise at the time, (other than tunes from Wilby/Kellmarsh/ Earls Barton) Cats, Torch, Mecca, Birds Nest :hatsoff2:, etc etc were event AND tunes yet to come, at least to me at the time :yes:  :yes: . 

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    I've never been clear on the relationship between "Bari Track" and the instrumental version of "I miss my baby" which was on a Goldmine "Groovesville Review" CD.  

    Are they exactly the same recording, just taken from different  copies of the master tape or something?

    Has Doni Burdock got anything to do with the record at all?

    It's actually the master tape to 'This Heart Is Lonely' by Rose Batiste that was unreleased until the first Pied Piper CD on Kent. It was then recorded by Rose for Revilot, slightly adjusted to 'I Miss My Baby'-one of the lines from 'This Heart Is Lonely'. Somehow Doni Burdick got hold of it and it was put out on one of Ed Wingate's labels. The producers and writers were totally re-written and somehow it got a Jobete publishing credit. It's as murky as can be but the original version and the sequence of releases is correct.

    BUT were'nt we all at the time, hard core nighter goers, but not very knowlegable music wise at the time, (other than tunes from Wilby/Kellmarsh/ Earls Barton) Cats, Torch, Mecca, Birds Nest :hatsoff2:, etc etc were event AND tunes yet to come, at least to me at the time :yes:  :yes: .

    Some were, some weren't Batman knew his stuff as did most of the DJs of course.

    I've never been clear on the relationship between "Bari Track" and the instrumental version of "I miss my baby" which was on a Goldmine "Groovesville Review" CD.  

    Are they exactly the same recording, just taken from different  copies of the master tape or something?

    Has Doni Burdock got anything to do with the record at all?

    All of Doni Burdick's recordings seem to be using backing tracks like his out of tune 'Candle' that uses the Dynamics 'I Need Your Love' and 'Whatcha Gonna Do' uses September Jones Chink A Chank Baby. I Have Faith In You is Edwin Starr's backing track and credits the right writers but changes the producers, only 'Open The Door To Your Heart' seems to be a fully legit cover with the proper credits. As many dubious practices as that bloke from Leeds; no they couldn't be could they?

    All of Doni Burdick's recordings seem to be using backing tracks like his out of tune 'Candle' that uses the Dynamics 'I Need Your Love' and 'Whatcha Gonna Do' uses September Jones Chink A Chank Baby. I Have Faith In You is Edwin Starr's backing track and credits the right writers but changes the producers, only 'Open The Door To Your Heart' seems to be a fully legit cover with the proper credits. As many dubious practices as that bloke from Leeds; no they couldn't be could they?

     

    Interesting…..

    All of Doni Burdick's recordings seem to be using backing tracks like his out of tune 'Candle' that uses the Dynamics 'I Need Your Love' and 'Whatcha Gonna Do' uses September Jones Chink A Chank Baby. I Have Faith In You is Edwin Starr's backing track and credits the right writers but changes the producers, only 'Open The Door To Your Heart' seems to be a fully legit cover with the proper credits. As many dubious practices as that bloke from Leeds; no they couldn't be could they?

     

    Ah but if they were...who was the guy who played live at Prestatyn??

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    It's actually the master tape to 'This Heart Is Lonely' by Rose Batiste that was unreleased until the first Pied Piper CD on Kent. It was then recorded by Rose for Revilot, slightly adjusted to 'I Miss My Baby'-one of the lines from 'This Heart Is Lonely'. Somehow Doni Burdick got hold of it and it was put out on one of Ed Wingate's labels. The producers and writers were totally re-written and somehow it got a Jobete publishing credit. It's as murky as can be but the original version and the sequence of releases is correct.

    ​Thanks for shining some light through the murk! I'm going to get myself those Pied Piper CDs.  I'm just starting to realise that Jack Ashford was involved in many of my all time favourite tracks.

     

     

    I've never been clear on the relationship between "Bari Track" and the instrumental version of "I miss my baby" which was on a Goldmine "Groovesville Review" CD.  

    Are they exactly the same recording, just taken from different  copies of the master tape or something?

    Has Doni Burdock got anything to do with the record at all? 

    ​Got Bari Track/Miss my baby (latter being played at the time- circa 72) around 74 from Derek at Coaville Market, who had on his labels "special import" or summat like that, soul bowl.

     

     

    All of Doni Burdick's recordings seem to be using backing tracks like his out of tune 'Candle' that uses the Dynamics 'I Need Your Love' and 'Whatcha Gonna Do' uses September Jones Chink A Chank Baby. I Have Faith In You is Edwin Starr's backing track and credits the right writers but changes the producers, only 'Open The Door To Your Heart' seems to be a fully legit cover with the proper credits. As many dubious practices as that bloke from Leeds; no they couldn't be could they?

    ​I remember from one of John Powney's sales lists 20 years ago a record he credited as "vocal to Doni Burdick's Whatcha Gonna Do". Can't remember the artist but label was Cameo-Parkway or just Parkway. Does that ring any bells?

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    I remember from one of John Powney's sales lists 20 years ago a record he credited as "vocal to Doni Burdick's Whatcha Gonna Do". Can't remember the artist but label was Cameo-Parkway or just Parkway. Does that ring any bells?

    Never heard of that, it would be interesting to hear.

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    On 10/06/2015 at 22:46, Benji said:

    I remember from one of John Powney's sales lists 20 years ago a record he credited as "vocal to Doni Burdick's Whatcha Gonna Do". Can't remember the artist but label was Cameo-Parkway or just Parkway. Does that ring any bells?

    Silly me it's the unissued September Jones Chink A Chank baby on our Pied Piper CD

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    i remember John Powney telling me years ago about a daniel e skidmore 111, record that had similar backing to a doni burdick track on parkway ,but dont know which one, Colin

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    4 hours ago, Colsoul said:

    i remember John Powney telling me years ago about a daniel e skidmore 111, record that had similar backing to a doni burdick track on parkway ,but dont know which one, Colin

    That would be listen to the wind, old Pat Brady cover up from Bradford Queens Hall era 
    Covered up as Danny Monday if I remember.

    well forgotten but great 

     

    7 hours ago, Colsoul said:

    i remember John Powney telling me years ago about a daniel e skidmore 111, record that had similar backing to a doni burdick track on parkway ,but dont know which one, Colin

    Only tiny little bit similar in parts IMO:

     

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    I know this is an old topic but I'm new to Soul Source. Is anyone in contact with Simon today?

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    3 hours ago, The Dolt said:

    I know this is an old topic but I'm new to Soul Source. Is anyone in contact with Simon today?

    Yes and he doesn’t want to speak about Northern openly. He’s based in LA. 

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