Neil Rushton Posted April 29, 2015 Posted April 29, 2015 Had you ever heard it out before it was booted Neil? I was wondering where it was ever played? Ian D Maybe from the LP at The Catacombs, but I don't think it was known until it was booted.
Ian Dewhirst Posted April 29, 2015 Posted April 29, 2015 Ian Are you sure Susanne DePasse was not horrified by the original plan to release it on a 12" picture disc with photos of Northern Soul DJ's?!!! I can still remember the late phone call from you and Simon, coming up with the plan and I went back to bed shaking my head. I think it was going to be Northern Soul medley to begin with (?), and you came up with the concept of making it a Motown Medley. Can you imagine how awful a NS medley would have been? I can also remember you calling me from LA after you had seen Susanne. Then of course Simon got more backers for the records than there were shares...I think he must have seen the film "The Producers". He well and truly ripped us of on it. Yep. We probably got stung more than anyone when you add it up. However, I'm sure S.S. got screwed by Soultrain. That whole thing was just a circle of sharks wasn't it? Ian D
Guest davebyork Posted May 1, 2015 Posted May 1, 2015 Doni Burdick was a backing track from a 1965 recording so he had ball all to do with it and didn't deserve a cent. Love And Desire's Billy Page, nothing to do with Sidney if you're talking Patrice Holloway. Writers and artists don't get paid for the original releases unless they sell in reasonable quantities I've never been clear on the relationship between "Bari Track" and the instrumental version of "I miss my baby" which was on a Goldmine "Groovesville Review" CD. Are they exactly the same recording, just taken from different copies of the master tape or something? Has Doni Burdock got anything to do with the record at all?
Ady Croasdell Posted May 1, 2015 Posted May 1, 2015 Was'nt what I meant, although rereading my post it does, DG quite innocently asked all B&S readers to tell him there favorite sounds, MY collection went a whole new direction when he started printing them in his column. What I meant was that a magazine had published details of sounds, entireley innocent of ulterior motive other than getting it across to a wider audiance, especiaslly the NS starved South of the UK, and the unscrupulous had a ready made data base of sounds that were on everybodies wish list at the time, and possibly factored it into their release policy.Possibly, we'd have to ask Batman who is in the Antipodes I think. He was a hard-core nighter goer and knew his sounds from there probably more than B&S
ZootSuit Posted May 1, 2015 Posted May 1, 2015 (edited) Possibly, we'd have to ask Batman who is in the Antipodes I think. He was a hard-core nighter goer and knew his sounds from there probably more than B&S BUT were'nt we all at the time, hard core nighter goers, but not very knowlegable music wise at the time, (other than tunes from Wilby/Kellmarsh/ Earls Barton) Cats, Torch, Mecca, Birds Nest , etc etc were event AND tunes yet to come, at least to me at the time . Edited May 1, 2015 by ZootSuit
Ady Croasdell Posted May 1, 2015 Posted May 1, 2015 I've never been clear on the relationship between "Bari Track" and the instrumental version of "I miss my baby" which was on a Goldmine "Groovesville Review" CD. Are they exactly the same recording, just taken from different copies of the master tape or something?Has Doni Burdock got anything to do with the record at all?It's actually the master tape to 'This Heart Is Lonely' by Rose Batiste that was unreleased until the first Pied Piper CD on Kent. It was then recorded by Rose for Revilot, slightly adjusted to 'I Miss My Baby'-one of the lines from 'This Heart Is Lonely'. Somehow Doni Burdick got hold of it and it was put out on one of Ed Wingate's labels. The producers and writers were totally re-written and somehow it got a Jobete publishing credit. It's as murky as can be but the original version and the sequence of releases is correct.
Ady Croasdell Posted May 1, 2015 Posted May 1, 2015 BUT were'nt we all at the time, hard core nighter goers, but not very knowlegable music wise at the time, (other than tunes from Wilby/Kellmarsh/ Earls Barton) Cats, Torch, Mecca, Birds Nest , etc etc were event AND tunes yet to come, at least to me at the time .Some were, some weren't Batman knew his stuff as did most of the DJs of course.
Ady Croasdell Posted May 1, 2015 Posted May 1, 2015 I've never been clear on the relationship between "Bari Track" and the instrumental version of "I miss my baby" which was on a Goldmine "Groovesville Review" CD. Are they exactly the same recording, just taken from different copies of the master tape or something?Has Doni Burdock got anything to do with the record at all?All of Doni Burdick's recordings seem to be using backing tracks like his out of tune 'Candle' that uses the Dynamics 'I Need Your Love' and 'Whatcha Gonna Do' uses September Jones Chink A Chank Baby. I Have Faith In You is Edwin Starr's backing track and credits the right writers but changes the producers, only 'Open The Door To Your Heart' seems to be a fully legit cover with the proper credits. As many dubious practices as that bloke from Leeds; no they couldn't be could they?
Steve G Posted May 1, 2015 Posted May 1, 2015 All of Doni Burdick's recordings seem to be using backing tracks like his out of tune 'Candle' that uses the Dynamics 'I Need Your Love' and 'Whatcha Gonna Do' uses September Jones Chink A Chank Baby. I Have Faith In You is Edwin Starr's backing track and credits the right writers but changes the producers, only 'Open The Door To Your Heart' seems to be a fully legit cover with the proper credits. As many dubious practices as that bloke from Leeds; no they couldn't be could they? Interesting…..
Pete S Posted May 1, 2015 Posted May 1, 2015 All of Doni Burdick's recordings seem to be using backing tracks like his out of tune 'Candle' that uses the Dynamics 'I Need Your Love' and 'Whatcha Gonna Do' uses September Jones Chink A Chank Baby. I Have Faith In You is Edwin Starr's backing track and credits the right writers but changes the producers, only 'Open The Door To Your Heart' seems to be a fully legit cover with the proper credits. As many dubious practices as that bloke from Leeds; no they couldn't be could they? Ah but if they were...who was the guy who played live at Prestatyn??
Ady Croasdell Posted May 1, 2015 Posted May 1, 2015 Ah but if they were...who was the guy who played live at Prestatyn??Jeff King
Trev Thomas Posted May 1, 2015 Posted May 1, 2015 Ah but if they were...who was the guy who played live at Prestatyn?? simon soussan
Guest davebyork Posted June 8, 2015 Posted June 8, 2015 It's actually the master tape to 'This Heart Is Lonely' by Rose Batiste that was unreleased until the first Pied Piper CD on Kent. It was then recorded by Rose for Revilot, slightly adjusted to 'I Miss My Baby'-one of the lines from 'This Heart Is Lonely'. Somehow Doni Burdick got hold of it and it was put out on one of Ed Wingate's labels. The producers and writers were totally re-written and somehow it got a Jobete publishing credit. It's as murky as can be but the original version and the sequence of releases is correct.Thanks for shining some light through the murk! I'm going to get myself those Pied Piper CDs. I'm just starting to realise that Jack Ashford was involved in many of my all time favourite tracks.
Shsdave Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjgb5WkS4u0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX_GfElOIBw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsUBKPff5ls https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQuL7fuUQcQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz8AvWbAjco You dug up some classics there Steve ........Russell Harness - At The Disco
Theothertosspot Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 I've never been clear on the relationship between "Bari Track" and the instrumental version of "I miss my baby" which was on a Goldmine "Groovesville Review" CD. Are they exactly the same recording, just taken from different copies of the master tape or something?Has Doni Burdock got anything to do with the record at all? Got Bari Track/Miss my baby (latter being played at the time- circa 72) around 74 from Derek at Coaville Market, who had on his labels "special import" or summat like that, soul bowl.
Benji Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 All of Doni Burdick's recordings seem to be using backing tracks like his out of tune 'Candle' that uses the Dynamics 'I Need Your Love' and 'Whatcha Gonna Do' uses September Jones Chink A Chank Baby. I Have Faith In You is Edwin Starr's backing track and credits the right writers but changes the producers, only 'Open The Door To Your Heart' seems to be a fully legit cover with the proper credits. As many dubious practices as that bloke from Leeds; no they couldn't be could they?I remember from one of John Powney's sales lists 20 years ago a record he credited as "vocal to Doni Burdick's Whatcha Gonna Do". Can't remember the artist but label was Cameo-Parkway or just Parkway. Does that ring any bells?
Ady Croasdell Posted June 19, 2015 Posted June 19, 2015 I remember from one of John Powney's sales lists 20 years ago a record he credited as "vocal to Doni Burdick's Whatcha Gonna Do". Can't remember the artist but label was Cameo-Parkway or just Parkway. Does that ring any bells?Never heard of that, it would be interesting to hear.
Mick Holdsworth Posted June 19, 2015 Posted June 19, 2015 (edited) - Edited August 10, 2021 by Mick Holdsworth
Bunderthollox Posted February 3, 2017 Posted February 3, 2017 He ripped off artists, he ripped off buyers, and now hes born again. Perhaps he can sing us all a hymn or two. This is truly a blessed time.
Ady Croasdell Posted February 3, 2017 Posted February 3, 2017 On 10/06/2015 at 22:46, Benji said: I remember from one of John Powney's sales lists 20 years ago a record he credited as "vocal to Doni Burdick's Whatcha Gonna Do". Can't remember the artist but label was Cameo-Parkway or just Parkway. Does that ring any bells? Silly me it's the unissued September Jones Chink A Chank baby on our Pied Piper CD
Blackpoolsoul Posted August 10, 2021 Posted August 10, 2021 Found a photo of Simon with 2 of his wives 2
Blackpoolsoul Posted August 10, 2021 Posted August 10, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Blackpoolsoul said: Found a photo of Simon with 2 of his wives and a recent video on Facebook https://ne-np.facebook.com/FranckyPerezOfficial/videos/2941751002513735/?__so__=permalink&__rv__=related_videos Here he his is last year on Facebook Edited August 10, 2021 by Blackpoolsoul 1
Colsoul Posted August 10, 2021 Posted August 10, 2021 (edited) i remember John Powney telling me years ago about a daniel e skidmore 111, record that had similar backing to a doni burdick track on parkway ,but dont know which one, Colin Edited August 10, 2021 by Colsoul miss quote
Gaz T Posted August 10, 2021 Posted August 10, 2021 4 hours ago, Colsoul said: i remember John Powney telling me years ago about a daniel e skidmore 111, record that had similar backing to a doni burdick track on parkway ,but dont know which one, Colin That would be listen to the wind, old Pat Brady cover up from Bradford Queens Hall era Covered up as Danny Monday if I remember. well forgotten but great
Benji Posted August 10, 2021 Posted August 10, 2021 7 hours ago, Colsoul said: i remember John Powney telling me years ago about a daniel e skidmore 111, record that had similar backing to a doni burdick track on parkway ,but dont know which one, Colin Only tiny little bit similar in parts IMO: 1
The Dolt Posted November 27, 2022 Posted November 27, 2022 I know this is an old topic but I'm new to Soul Source. Is anyone in contact with Simon today?
Goldsoul Posted November 27, 2022 Author Posted November 27, 2022 3 hours ago, The Dolt said: I know this is an old topic but I'm new to Soul Source. Is anyone in contact with Simon today? Yes and he doesn’t want to speak about Northern openly. He’s based in LA.
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