Nigeljag Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 (edited) Sorry if this topic has already been covered before. Has anybody got any details on the Breakthrough Album listed on the label, was this ever released? Edited October 28, 2022 by Nigeljag 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Scotters Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Very happy to be proved wrong as I would love to learn that there was enough material for an LP, maybe lurking unreleased somwhere, but I searched several years ago and asked around at Soul Essence in Yarmouth where I first heard it played out, found nothing unfortunately…what an album that could’ve been! The wonderful 45 like no other both sides has been reissued this week on Symphonical Records, so maybe we’re in for a treat if they managed to find the LP Meanwhile the reissue was waiting on my doormat when back from work today, which I’m quite happy about having regrettably sold mine a few years back…the release sounds amazing compared to the beat up copy I had! 1 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Nigeljag Posted October 28, 2022 Author Share Posted October 28, 2022 Thanks Scotters, 3 singles issued on Split records, so there's a possibility that there could be an LP lurking somewhere, it would be great if a definitive answer could be found 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Solution Chalky Posted October 29, 2022 Solution Share Posted October 29, 2022 Never seen or heard anyone else who has seen an LP. Not enough material released for an LP so maybe some lurking in the vaults? 1 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Kev Cane Posted October 29, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 29, 2022 The legendary Boba said, it's probably the greatest Sweet Soul record ever, testament enough 2 1 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ephraim Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Great record. Anyone seen one for sale in recent times? I'm wondering what the price would be. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Nigeljag Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 Last one I saw, sold for £1200 in 2016, so who know what the current price could fetch, although the reissue might stabilise the price for a while Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Harrogatesoul Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 I think one went through Anglo auction last year? Can't remember the price but I think it was four figures and not a great copy either from memory. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ephraim Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 I'm not too surprised at that price, since it's a much better record IMO than "1000 Tears Too Late" / "The Crawl" which has been sold a number of times on eBay and itself fetches quite a bit of money. Curious whether "Color One Tear Black" is really so much rarer, or whether it's just that no one is willing to sell. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) 18 hours ago, Ephraim said: I'm not too surprised at that price, since it's a much better record IMO than "1000 Tears Too Late" / "The Crawl" which has been sold a number of times on eBay and itself fetches quite a bit of money. Curious whether "Color One Tear Black" is really so much rarer, or whether it's just that no one is willing to sell. "A Thousand Tears Too Late" is rarer, but not by much I guess. It may look like several different copies have sold on ebay, but the ones that sold in 2010 for $226, the one in 2017 for $1136 and the one in 2022 for $1375 were all the same copy changing hands. The reason "Color One Tear Black" goes for more is because it's better and more in-demand. Edited November 1, 2022 by Sebastian 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 On 31/10/2022 at 02:51, Ephraim said: Great record. Anyone seen one for sale in recent times? I'm wondering what the price would be. Been a couple at least this year privately Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Scotters Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 I kept and also still love the early 80’s version by Billy Peterson Jr with the female backing (also on Split)…just noticed that 45 also quotes taken from an album ‘Hitman’, but again no knowledge of such LP. 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ephraim Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 3 hours ago, Scotters said: I kept and also still love the early 80’s version by Billy Peterson Jr with the female backing (also on Split)…just noticed that 45 also quotes taken from an album ‘Hitman’, but again no knowledge of such LP. Hadn't heard of that - thanks Scotters! 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ephraim Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 8 hours ago, Sebastian said: "A Thousand Tears Too Late" is rarer, but not by much I guess. It may look like several different copies have sold on ebay, but the ones that sold in 2010 for $226, the one in 2017 for $1136 and the one in 2022 for $1375 were all the same copy changing hands. Oh, good observation. I'm also curious how many stock copies are out there... I own the one sold in 2014 but haven't seen any others. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Nigeljag Posted November 1, 2022 Author Share Posted November 1, 2022 All produced & Arranged by Bill Smith, would this be the same Major Bill Smith the owner of Le Cam Records? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Woodbutcher Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 I'll take "Storm Warning" over the other two hands down ... my feet are itching just typing this out ... 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kev Cane Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Nigeljag said: All produced & Arranged by Bill Smith, would this be the same Major Bill Smith the owner of Le Cam Records? Le Cam was Fort Worth, Texas, Split was Ohio, not saying they aren't the same Bill Smith, but I think it makes it seem unlikely Kev 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) Bill/William Smith is one of the group members as far as I can ascertain. Nothing to do with Major Bill. Both James Bowens and Bill Smith were part of James Bowens and His Agents who did the storming northern side Baby I Want You Edited November 1, 2022 by Chalky 3 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Chalky Posted November 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2022 The notes with the Symphonical release on Bandcamp Cincinnati teens Bill Smith & Randy Vandivier would play together during the late 60s in a group called ‘Billy & The Hitch Hikers’ fronted by James Bowens, who through his fascination with James Bond would adopt the nickname ‘Double O’ Hailing from Lincoln Heights, the group would be surrounded by and play with the likes of Bootsy Collins, Charles Spurling who became staples at local King Records Bill & Randy would find themselves working together at the local Holiday Inn during the 70s whilst writing & performing with their own projects. This gave Bill the opportunity to pursue recording & releasing local artists under his own record label, 'Split Records', which would happen at the all in one recording & production facility, Rite Studios in their local neighbourhood Bill had asked Randy to gather the musicians together for three separate recordings to be released under Split Records, whilst employing ‘Double O’ and his backing vocal group ‘The Demingos’ ‘Color One Tear Black’, a poignant, melancholic expression of lost love, created & sang by James Bowens was their third recording in the studio. The guys on that session were Pete Irving on saxophone, Robert Chamberlain playing bass guitar, John Keys on guitar, Randall Vandivier playing trumpet & Harry Darke on drums 5 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Will Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 It''s still fairly frequently available and pushed towards us collectors, at least on the q.t. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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