DELORENZO Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 Right Lads & Lasses Pic & Bill - The Soul Of A Man / Don't Leave Me - Soul Record 1 - French - unfortunately no Pic sleeve (But i think i may know where one is) any ideas on value, i see there SR 7 is up for £200 on Mr Manship's thanks Jed Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 SR 1 is worth about £10. SR 7 is expensive (even though £200 is optimistic) because it has got "Talk About Love" on it, which is EXTREMELY rare on its original US Charay release (releases really, as it was issued three times, but is still almost impossible to track down). Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
DELORENZO Posted June 11, 2007 Author Share Posted June 11, 2007 thanks for that Sebastien I am selling the SR 7 now, with pic sleeve on Ebay Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
KevH Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 thanks for that Sebastien I am selling the SR 7 now, with pic sleeve on Ebay on Spanish BELTER records as well,seen it at 150/100 in boxes( for Talk about love),sold mine to a pal for 50 pic sleeve,, "not too long ago"... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
ShorterSoul Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 So what's the consensus on the value of the Charay release of 'Talk about love'. I know it's not valued very highly in Tim Browns guide unlike their other Charay outing 'What does it take'. Can anyone give me realistic current value for this Thanks Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 (edited) So what's the consensus on the value of the Charay release of 'Talk about love'. I know it's not valued very highly in Tim Browns guide unlike their other Charay outing 'What does it take'. Can anyone give me realistic current value for this Thanks It's a bit strange to see the rather common euro releases of this tune selling for £100-£200 and then both of the mega rare Pic & Bill issues of "Talk About Love" on Charay (issued with two different flipside) sell for only £200-£300. Based on quality and rarity it should be £750 at least. I don't know how much it is in the Tim Brown and Manship guides, can anyone please check? The first release of "Talk About Love" (the exact same recording, but about 20 catalogue numbers prior to the Pic & Bill issues) is credited to Fiery Spartans (Vocal by: PIC & BILL) and I've only ever seen one copy of that one and it's the one I've got. Not interested in selling it, but would ask for a LOT of money if I ever did. If anyone has got their "What Does It Take" 45 on Charay for sale, please PM me. Edited June 12, 2007 by Sebastian Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jaco Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Sebastian, JM's 4th guide has "Talk about love" with the flip of "For the good times" listed at £150. No mention of the issue with "A man without a woman" as the flip. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
ShorterSoul Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Thanks Sebastian, I had this on an tape from John Manship years ago credited to the Fiery Spartons. Always assumed this was the cover up name! Picked up a copy of the Pic and Bill release on Charay for a few dollars of ebay a couple of years ago. I understand that some of the european releases of this aren't such a good recording as the US Charay issues. Definately in agreement with you with the quality and rarity of the P&B Charay release, I've only seen this for sale once or twice and it's always been expensive... Never seen the FS Charay issue, must be mega rare!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 I understand that some of the european releases of this aren't such a good recording as the US Charay issues. Definately in agreement with you with the quality and rarity of the P&B Charay release, I've only seen this for sale once or twice and it's always been expensive... Never seen the FS Charay issue, must be mega rare!! The french Soul Record release has got decent sound quality, but the one on spanish Belter sounds very muffled. Here is the Fiery Spartans release, it is indeed insanely rare: 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
KevH Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 The french Soul Record release has got decent sound quality, but the one on spanish Belter sounds very muffled. Here is the Fiery Spartans release, it is indeed insanely rare: spot on with the Belter sound quality,but are you saying the Fiery Spartans is Pic & Bill? Have you got a sound bite of it to post up?,,KEV. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garethx Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 The Fiery Spartans and Pic & Bill are identical recordings. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 (edited) spot on with the Belter sound quality,but are you saying the Fiery Spartans is Pic & Bill? Have you got a sound bite of it to post up?,,KEV. The Fiery Spartans probably were Pic & Bill's backing band and that's why on the right on the Fiery Spartans label you can read "Vocal By: PIC & BILL". There is no need to put up a soundclip because the Fiery Spartans release is identical in every way to the Pic & Bill release(s). The Fiery Spartans 45 and the Pic & Bill 45s have been pressed using the same stamper and has got identical matrix markings. Edited June 12, 2007 by Sebastian Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Stuart T Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 The french Soul Record release has got decent sound quality, but the one on spanish Belter sounds very muffled. Here is the Fiery Spartans release, it is indeed insanely rare: Fantastic obscurity I've gota Pic and Bill TAL on Charay, never knew about the Fiery Spartans. I'm dead jealous now Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Thorsten Wegner Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Fantastic obscurity I've gota Pic and Bill TAL on Charay, never knew about the Fiery Spartans. I'm dead jealous now By the way anyone has a Charay label listing? Thorsten Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 (edited) By the way anyone has a Charay label listing? Thorsten Here's one from David Flynn's Anorak Corner web-site which I originally helped put together for the RareSoulForum (it's not complete and has got a bunch of errors in it, but it's better than nothing I guess... check out the multiple releases for certain cat# like 60,20,28,33,44 etc. I think I have some additions here somewhere as well): CHARAY 13 J. Frank Wilson - Last Kiss '69 / Black Car 14 Riels - There'll Be An Angel / Tuxedo Junction 15 Castlemen - Donna's Dream / Long Black Veil 16 Florida Deep Six - I Don't Wanna Cry / Start From Here 17 Elite - One Potato / Two Potato 18 Bill Mack - San Antonio Rose / Blue Jean 18 Bill Mack - Six Big Men / Blue 18 Bill Mack - San Antonio Rose / ? 19 Canadian Rogues - Oop-Poop-A-Doop / Keep In Touch 20 Larry & The Blue Notes - She'll Love Me / Everybody Needs Somebody 20 Larry & The Blue Notes - She'll Love Me / The Phantom 20 Larry & The Blue Notes - She'll Love Me / Talk About Love 20 Mark V - She'll Love Me / The Phantom 21 Dawning Villagers - A Girl Named Shea / ? 22 Goodsons - Twisted Mind / Alpine 23 Howard Crockett - Star / Word 23 Howard Crockett - Cross Eyed Mary / Strike A Match 24 ? 25 James Duncan - Waitin' On That Train / My Baby's Back 26 Amos Milburn - Gloria / The Last One 26 Amos Milburn Jr. - Look At A Fool / ? 27 Misfits - Work Song / Turn On Your Love Light 28 Wyld - Fly By Nighter / If I Had It 28 Wyld - Fly By Nighter / Lost One 28 Wyld - Lost One / Know A Lot About Love 28 Wyld - Lost One / Alley Oop 29 ? 30 Wayne Rozell - Paper Clown / ? 31 Elite - My Confusion / I'll Come To You 32 ? 33 Danes - To Make Me A Man / Lost Love 33 Danes - Little Summer Girl / Just A Dream 33 Sirs - Wow / Sixteen Candles 33 Bruce Channel - Hey! Baby '67 / Tipped Out 33 Bruce Channel - Hey! Baby '67 / My Baby 33 Bruce Channel - Baby Please Come Back / Baby Heartbreak 34 Dirte Four - On The Move / Hang Up 34 Dirte Four - On The Move / I Want To Give You All My Love 35 Jimmy Stewart - Ann / Patsy 35 Martha Starr - Sweet Temptation / Little Girl Blue 36 Rick & The Keens - You Can't Go / Rose Marie 37 Nat Kelly - Looking Back / Down the Pike 37 2 + 2 - Fact That I'm Back / I'll Take My Chance 38 Willie Hobbs - On The Move / Gloria 39 Carolyn Sullivan - Do You Believe In Magic? / Alpine Winter 40 Wayne & Wise Men - Take My Advice / Cinda 40 Electric Love - This Seat Is Saved / Gotta Get Back To My Baby 41 ? 42 ? 43 ? 44 Larry & The Blue Notes - There's No Other / You Cheated,You Lied 44 Larry & The Blue Notes - In And Out / Love Is A Beautiful Thing 44 Larry & The Blue Notes - In And Out / I'll Be True To You 45 Art & English - Why Did He Go Away / If'N 46 ? 47 Gene Summers - The Clown / Green Eyed Monster 47 Electric Love - This Seat is Saved / Gotta Get Back To My Baby 48 Paul - Happy Music / Hey, You Walk On Me 49 Sue Marin - Alpine Winter / Happiness Across The Street 50 Ray Roberts - Baby / ? 51 ? 52 ? 53 ? 54 ? 55 Mitch & The Mistys - Gonna Leave / Hey Baby 56 Elite - Bye, Bye Baby / All I Want Is You 57 Those Guys - I Want To Hold You Hand / Teresa 57 Those Guys - You Bet It Is / Teresa 58 Uptowners - She's Mine / Down The Pike 58 Mitch & Mistys - Patsy / She's So Fine 59 ? 60 Pic & Bill - What Would I Do / What Does It Take 60 Pic & Bill - What Would I Do / Patsy 60 Pic & Bill - Patsy / Over The Mountain 60 Pic & Bill - Patsy / Together Till The End Of Time 60 Pic & Bill - How Many Times / Funny How Time Slips Away 60 Pic & Bill - How Many Times / I Love You, Baby 61 Billy Mills - Monkey Time / Under The Pines 62 Paul & Paula - Hey! / Walk Through The World With Me 63 Orville Couch - Gone / If You Really Want Me To I'll Go 63 Orville Couch - Patsy / ? 64 Texans - Patsy / ? 65 ? 66 Mitch & The Mistys - I Lost My Head / Let It Be Me 67 Pic & Bill - It's Not You / All I Want Is You 68 Upper Class - Can't Wait / Help Me Find A Way 69 ? 70 ? 71 Rick & The Keens - I Cry / The Hippie 72 Jimmy & The Mustangs - Ruins Of Time / Summertime, Summertime 72 Jimmy & The Mustangs - Try To Love Me / The Ruins of Time 73 Pic & Bill - This Is It / Nobody But My Baby 74 Fiery Spartans - Cool / Talk About Love (same recording as Pic & Bill) 75 Ron-Dels - 100 Pounds Of Honey / Hey! Baby 76 ? 77 ? 78 ? 79 Ray Roberts - Alpine Winter / Together Till The End Of Time 80 Patti Johnson - Walking After Midnight / ? 80 J. Frank Wilson & Cavaliers - The Clown / Cool 81 Upper Class - Renee / Wow 82 C. Vaughn Lesley - I Need Someone / Together Till End Of Time 83 ? 84 ? 85 Mark II - Alpine Winter / Dead 85 Mark II - Dead / Bread And Soul 85 Mark II - Wipe Out / Soul Of A Man 86 J. Frank Wilson - Day Before Our Wedding / Boy Lonely 86 J. Frank Wilson - Darling / The Clown 86 Uptowners - She's Mine / Down The Pike 87 Robert Thomas - Salvation / Soul Of A Man 88 Nat & John - Pretty Woman / Alpine Winter 88 Pendergast - Wow / Break My Mind 88 Pendergast - Wow / Sheila 89 The Men From Macon - Soul Of A Man / East Of Eden 90 Cresa Watson - Salvation / ? 91 Cresa Watson - Alpine Winter / These Boots Are Made For Walking 91 Cresa Watson - Dead / Alpine Winter 91 Cresa Watson - A Woman Is A Nice Thing/These Boots Are Made For Walking 92 Leon Rausch - Last One / ? 92 Nat & John - Louie Louie / ? 93 Chili Ray - Moon Mouse / ? 94 Paul - Lollipops, Teardrops / Down The Pike 95 Johnny & The Mark V - Sands Of Malibu / Down The Pike 96 Country Dick Lightfoot - Miner, Sixty Niner / ? 97 Phil Watson - Jan / Walk About 97 Phil Watson -Have You Lost Your Children America? / Jan 98 ? 99 Pic & Bill - Talk About Love / A Man Without A Woman 99 Pic & Bill - Talk About Love / For The Good Times 100 Gene Summers & The Platinum Fog - Hot Pants / Young Voices Of Children 100 The Men From Macon - Salvation (inst.) / Black Velvet 101 Rita Lee - Salvation / So Ho 101 Ronnie Kelly - Tough / ? 102 Bruce & Patty - Thanks / ? 103 Danes - Lollipops, Teardrops / Teresa 103 Danes - Just A Dream / Little Summer Girl 104 ? 105 ? 106 Charlie Brown - Carla / Pt.2. 107 ? 108 Bobby Wayne Loftis - Back Together Once Again / So Good For Me 112 Men Of Sugar Hill - Calvin / ? 227 The Cattlemen - Black Mountain Rag / Down Draft 303 Danes - Little Summer Girl / Just a Dream (33) 304 Linda & Damon - Forever / Always Lonely 700 Cresa Watson - Dead / Alpine Winter (91) 701 Jimmy Stewart - Patsy / You Just Need to Love 1004 Scotty McKay & the Jomo Men - High on Life / If You Really Want Me To I'll Go 1005 Bruce Channel / Paul & Paula - Hey Baby / Hey Paula 1010 Sunny & The Carolina Tikis - Teen Angel / Rap Edited June 13, 2007 by Sebastian Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Thorsten Wegner Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 Thanks for that, Seb Will check if i have some additions too. love this Zombies like pop tune by the way, didn´t know that this came out on Charay 1st before Revue 95 Johnny & The Mark V - Sands Of Malibu / Down The Pike Thorsten Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 (edited) love this Zombies like pop tune by the way, didn´t know that this came out on Charay 1st before Revue 95 Johnny & The Mark V - Sands Of Malibu / Down The Pike Thorsten I agree, it's great! Both sides actually, nice rocking instrumental on the b-side. I also have it on Revue, but original issue was on Charay. I used to collect the Charay label but gave it up as it was too damn confusing. It's "bad" enough to only collect Pic & Bill 45s... Edited June 13, 2007 by Sebastian Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jaco Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 Here's one from David Flynn's Anorak Corner web-site which I originally helped put together for the RareSoulForum (it's not complete and has got a bunch of errors in it, but it's better than nothing I guess... check out the multiple releases for certain cat# like 60,20,28,33,44 etc. I think I have some additions here somewhere as well): CHARAY 13 J. Frank Wilson - Last Kiss '69 / Black Car Also 13 J.Frank Wilson "Kiss and run/Hey!Baby" 14 Riels - There'll Be An Angel / Tuxedo Junction Also 14 Riels "Love dont need no reason/Alpine winter" 15 Castlemen - Donna's Dream / Long Black Veil 16 Florida Deep Six - I Don't Wanna Cry / Start From Here 17 Elite - One Potato / Two Potato 18 Bill Mack - San Antonio Rose / Blue Jean 18 Bill Mack - Six Big Men / Blue 18 Bill Mack - San Antonio Rose / ? "Blue Jean" 19 Canadian Rogues - Oop-Poop-A-Doop / Keep In Touch 20 Larry & The Blue Notes - She'll Love Me / Everybody Needs Somebody 20 Larry & The Blue Notes - She'll Love Me / The Phantom 20 Larry & The Blue Notes - She'll Love Me / Talk About Love 20 Mark V - She'll Love Me / The Phantom 21 Dawning Villagers - A Girl Named Shea / ? "If there be no love tomorrow" 22 Goodsons - Twisted Mind / Alpine 23 Howard Crockett - Star / Word Also 23 Howard Crockett "That old jukebox/Honky tonk man" 23 Howard Crockett - Cross Eyed Mary / Strike A Match eyed Also 23 Howard Crockett "That old jukebox/Cross eyed Mary" 24 ? 25 James Duncan - Waitin' On That Train / My Baby's Back 26 Amos Milburn - Gloria / The Last One 26 Amos Milburn Jr. - Look At A Fool / ? "You used me" 27 Misfits - Work Song / Turn On Your Love Light 28 Wyld - Fly By Nighter / If I Had It 28 Wyld - Fly By Nighter / Lost One 28 Wyld - Lost One / Know A Lot About Love 28 Wyld - Lost One / Alley Oop 29 ? S Wayne Cummings "The big swede/Alpine winter" 30 Wayne Rozell - Paper Clown / ? "Cinda" 31 Elite - My Confusion / I'll Come To You 32 ? 33 Danes - To Make Me A Man / Lost Love 33 Danes - Little Summer Girl / Just A Dream 33 Sirs - Wow / Sixteen Candles 33 Bruce Channel - Hey! Baby '67 / Tipped Out 33 Bruce Channel - Hey! Baby '67 / My Baby 33 Bruce Channel - Baby Please Come Back / Baby Heartbreak 34 Dirte Four - On The Move / Hang Up 34 Dirte Four - On The Move / I Want To Give You All My Love 35 Jimmy Stewart - Ann / Patsy 35 Martha Starr - Sweet Temptation / Little Girl Blue 36 Rick & The Keens - You Can't Go / Rose Marie 37 Nat Kelly - Looking Back / Down the Pike 37 2 + 2 - Fact That I'm Back / I'll Take My Chance 38 Willie Hobbs - On The Move / Gloria 39 Carolyn Sullivan - Do You Believe In Magic? / Alpine Winter 40 Wayne & Wise Men - Take My Advice / Cinda 40 Electric Love - This Seat Is Saved / Gotta Get Back To My Baby 41 ? 42 ? 43 ? 44 Larry & The Blue Notes - There's No Other / You Cheated,You Lied 44 Larry & The Blue Notes - In And Out / Love Is A Beautiful Thing 44 Larry & The Blue Notes - In And Out / I'll Be True To You 45 Art & English - Why Did He Go Away / If'N 46 ? 47 Gene Summers - The Clown / Green Eyed Monster 47 Electric Love - This Seat is Saved / Gotta Get Back To My Baby 48 Paul - Happy Music / Hey, You Walk On Me 49 Sue Marin - Alpine Winter / Happiness Across The Street 50 Ray Roberts - Baby / ? "Alpine winter" 51 ? 52 ? 53 ? 54 ? 55 Mitch & The Mistys - Gonna Leave / Hey Baby 56 Elite - Bye, Bye Baby / All I Want Is You 57 Those Guys - I Want To Hold You Hand / Teresa 57 Those Guys - You Bet It Is / Teresa 58 Uptowners - She's Mine / Down The Pike 58 Mitch & Mistys - Patsy / She's So Fine 59 ? 60 Pic & Bill - What Would I Do / What Does It Take 60 Pic & Bill - What Would I Do / Patsy 60 Pic & Bill - Patsy / Over The Mountain 60 Pic & Bill - Patsy / Together Till The End Of Time 60 Pic & Bill - How Many Times / Funny How Time Slips Away 60 Pic & Bill - How Many Times / I Love You, Baby 61 Billy Mills - Monkey Time / Under The Pines 62 Paul & Paula - Hey! / Walk Through The World With Me 63 Orville Couch - Gone / If You Really Want Me To I'll Go 63 Orville Couch - Patsy / ? "Gone" 64 Texans - Patsy / ? "The sparrow" 65 ? 66 Mitch & The Mistys - I Lost My Head / Let It Be Me 67 Pic & Bill - It's Not You / All I Want Is You 68 Upper Class - Can't Wait / Help Me Find A Way 69 ? 70 ? 71 Rick & The Keens - I Cry / The Hippie 72 Jimmy & The Mustangs - Ruins Of Time / Summertime, Summertime 72 Jimmy & The Mustangs - Try To Love Me / The Ruins of Time 73 Pic & Bill - This Is It / Nobody But My Baby 74 Fiery Spartans - Cool / Talk About Love (same recording as Pic & Bill) 75 Ron-Dels - 100 Pounds Of Honey / Hey! Baby 76 ? 77 ? 78 ? 79 Ray Roberts - Alpine Winter / Together Till The End Of Time 80 Patti Johnson - Walking After Midnight / ? 80 J. Frank Wilson & Cavaliers - The Clown / Cool 81 Upper Class - Renee / Wow 82 C. Vaughn Lesley - I Need Someone / Together Till End Of Time 83 ? 84 ? 85 Mark II - Alpine Winter / Dead 85 Mark II - Dead / Bread And Soul 85 Mark II - Wipe Out / Soul Of A Man 86 J. Frank Wilson - Day Before Our Wedding / Boy Lonely 86 J. Frank Wilson - Darling / The Clown 86 Uptowners - She's Mine / Down The Pike 87 Robert Thomas - Salvation / Soul Of A Man 88 Nat & John - Pretty Woman / Alpine Winter 88 Pendergast - Wow / Break My Mind 88 Pendergast - Wow / Sheila 89 The Men From Macon - Soul Of A Man / East Of Eden 90 Cresa Watson - Salvation / ? 91 Cresa Watson - Alpine Winter / These Boots Are Made For Walking 91 Cresa Watson - Dead / Alpine Winter 91 Cresa Watson - A Woman Is A Nice Thing/These Boots Are Made For Walking 92 Leon Rausch - Last One / ? 92 Nat & John - Louie Louie / ? 93 Chili Ray - Moon Mouse / ? 94 Paul - Lollipops, Teardrops / Down The Pike 95 Johnny & The Mark V - Sands Of Malibu / Down The Pike 96 Country Dick Lightfoot - Miner, Sixty Niner / ? 97 Phil Watson - Jan / Walk About 97 Phil Watson -Have You Lost Your Children America? / Jan 98 ? 99 Pic & Bill - Talk About Love / A Man Without A Woman 99 Pic & Bill - Talk About Love / For The Good Times 100 Gene Summers & The Platinum Fog - Hot Pants / Young Voices Of Children 100 The Men From Macon - Salvation (inst.) / Black Velvet 101 Rita Lee - Salvation / So Ho 101 Ronnie Kelly - Tough / ? 102 Bruce & Patty - Thanks / ? 103 Danes - Lollipops, Teardrops / Teresa 103 Danes - Just A Dream / Little Summer Girl 104 ? 105 ? 106 Charlie Brown - Carla / Pt.2. 107 ? 108 Bobby Wayne Loftis - Back Together Once Again / So Good For Me 112 Men Of Sugar Hill - Calvin / ? 227 The Cattlemen - Black Mountain Rag / Down Draft 303 Danes - Little Summer Girl / Just a Dream (33) 304 Linda & Damon - Forever / Always Lonely 700 Cresa Watson - Dead / Alpine Winter (91) 701 Jimmy Stewart - Patsy / You Just Need to Love 1004 Scotty McKay & the Jomo Men - High on Life / If You Really Want Me To I'll Go 1005 Bruce Channel / Paul & Paula - Hey Baby / Hey Paula 1010 Sunny & The Carolina Tikis - Teen Angel / Rap Sebastian, additions are in bold. There are others but I'm not sure I've got the will to fill them in!!!. Talk about confusing there are 10 Pic and Bill issues for no.60 four of which include "Patsy" and then you look back and see different versions by Orville Couch, Mitch and the Mistys and God knows how many versions there are of "Alpine winter". Strange indeed. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 (edited) Sebastian, additions are in bold. There are others but I'm not sure I've got the will to fill them in!!!. Talk about confusing there are 10 Pic and Bill issues for no.60 four of which include "Patsy" and then you look back and see different versions by Orville Couch, Mitch and the Mistys and God knows how many versions there are of "Alpine winter". Strange indeed. Thanks for the additions! It's the same version of "Patsy" which is included on all 45s, it's an instrumental and Major Bill Smith seems to have included it on 45s when he didn't want to "waste" studio time/money for a second tune. The track entitled "Cool" which has shown up on loads of Major Bill Smith-connected 45s is the same recording as "Patsy" and it wouldn't surprise me if "Alpine Winter" also is the exact same... Do you know of 10 releases of Charay 60!? Edited June 13, 2007 by Sebastian Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
mshoals Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 Here's another one not in the Charay list, even though I'm not sure whether it's an original or a (Dutch?) boot. Anyone knows? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jaco Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 Thanks for the additions! It's the same version of "Patsy" which is included on all 45s, it's an instrumental and Major Bill Smith seems to have included it on 45s when he didn't want to "waste" studio time/money for a second tune. The track entitled "Cool" which has shown up on loads of Major Bill Smith-connected 45s is the same recording as "Patsy" and it wouldn't surprise me if "Alpine Winter" also is the exact same... Do you know of 10 releases of Charay 60!? Should have guessed "Patsy" was an instrumental, and as you say probably the same with "Alpine Winter". I miscounted Charay 60, there are 9 issues : What would I do/What does it take (to keep a girl like you satisfied) Patsy/What would I do Patsy/The soul of a man Something's wrong with my baby/What would I do How many times/Funny how time slips away What would I do/Funny how time slips away How many times/I love you baby How many times/Patsy Together it's the end of time/Patsy Nightmare for "completists" Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Windlesoul Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 (edited) Going back to original post re the humble french Soul Records / SR series, anybody got an idea when these were manufactured? Edited March 18, 2014 by Windlesoul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mal C Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 (edited) So what's the consensus on the value of the Charay release of 'Talk about love'. I know it's not valued very highly in Tim Browns guide unlike their other Charay outing 'What does it take'. Can anyone give me realistic current value for this Thanks paid about a ton for mine, worth every penny IMHO, you see the French release all the time, allot fewer Charay 45's come up.. they did the flip of the Moovers Brent 45 'I Love You, Baby' (60) on above listing... in fact dont know which came first but I love that song on both versions... Come Back Baby on the Belter Lp is the other stand out Northern wise i suppose, didn't make ANY crap records this lot! Mal Edited March 18, 2014 by Mal C Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mal C Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Ohh forgot, 'All I want is You' also came out on Le Cam, dont know which is first, Le Cam? anyhow one of the best tracks isnt it... Mal Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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