My memory isn't what it was, (senility and all that) and I forget the 'Who was who" things you know, like Tobi Lark was Tobi Ledgend etc Can we pool knowledge on here and come up with a decent list of psudonyms plus groups they featured in?? Might be a good 'un!

My memory isn't what it was, (senility and all that) and I forget the 'Who was who" things you know, like Tobi Lark was Tobi Ledgend etc Can we pool knowledge on here and come up with a decent list of psudonyms plus groups they featured in?? Might be a good 'un!

Good call Trev

I do remember a tale about Towanda Barnes/Gloria Barnes being one and the same, If my failing memory serves me right full name was Gloria Teresa Wanda Barnes. Can any one on here confirm or was it a made up tale?

BTW did you get a demo?

Best

M.

Good call Trev

I do remember a tale about Towanda Barnes/Gloria Barnes being one and the same, If my failing memory serves me right full name was Gloria Teresa Wanda Barnes. Can any one on here confirm or was it a made up tale?

BTW did you get a demo?

Best

M.

That is true. I was looking at the the Gloria Barnes album about 4 weeks ago and in the sleeve notes she's referred to as Gloria Towanda Barnes.

Good call Trev

I do remember a tale about Towanda Barnes/Gloria Barnes being one and the same, If my failing memory serves me right full name was Gloria Teresa Wanda Barnes. Can any one on here confirm or was it a made up tale?

BTW did you get a demo?

Best

M.

Yup, got it today.

didn't Ty Karim record as someone else? and lorraine Chandler? So far then we've got-

1) Towanda barnes/Gloria Barnes

2) Tobi Lark/Tobi Ledgend/Bessie Watson

3) Ty Karim/Towana & Total Destruction

4) Kendra Spotswood/Kenni Woods /Sandi Sheldon/Andy Alston/Alice Presley+Groups Shirelles/Pacettes/ Fantastic Vantastics/ Vonettes

5)Tammy Montgomery/Tammi Terrell

6)Jo Armstead/Deena Johnson

7) Dottie Cambridge/Dorothy Moore?

8) Linda Jones/Linda Lane

9) Alice Clark/Group-Dejah Ahres

I'm sure there's LOADS more!

Edited July 3, 200717 yr by Trevski

Yup, got it today.

didn't Ty Karim record as someone else? and lorraine Chandler? So far then we've got-

1) Towanda barnes/Gloria Barnes

2) Tobi Lark/Tobi Ledgend

I'm sure there's LOADS more!

Ty Karim = Towana & Total destruction

Lorraine Chandler was originally thought to have also been September Jones but wasn't

Kendra Spotswood recorded as Kenni Woods and Sandi Sheldon and 'Jill' as part of Jack & Jill with Van McCoy.

Also in The Shirelles, The Pacettes, The Fantastic Vantastics and The Vonettes, I believe.

Tobi Lark also recorded under the name Bessie Watson - (her real name is Bessie Gupton) She also used the stage names Tobey Lane and Tobie Lock although I don't think she recorded under those pseudonyms.

Thomasina Montgomery recorded as Tammy Montgomery and Tammi Terrell.

Edited July 3, 200717 yr by sweeney

Thomasina Montgomery recorded as Tammy Montgomery and Tammi Terrell.

...but not as Thomasina Montgomery, of course

I've mentioned this one before - Jo Armstead and Deena Johnson are one and the same. Mildred Vaney of the Glories is also Millie Scott, who made that great 80s Detroit dancer "Prisoner Of Love". It's generally accepted that Dottie Cambridge is Dorothy Moore, and although I've no conclusive proof of that it does seem likely. And I've strained my brain too much already for one day so I'm off to bed before I sit here for a couple of hours trying to think of some more...

Kendra Spotswood recorded as Kenni Woods and Sandi Sheldon and 'Jill' as part of Jack & Jill with Van McCoy.

Also- and again with Van, as "Andy Alston" - as "Alice Presley" on Maxwell.

Now I really AM going to bed...

LINDA LANE LONELY TEARDROPS Cub 9124

Linda Jones 1st solo release.

DEENA JOHNSON - MAMA'S BOY Swa Ray 6155

This is Jo Armstead.

(i think i saved this info on the 2 listed above from a recent sales list, maybe on here?)

Dejah Ahres - Let me be your girl / real jive guy (Alice Clark)

(pretty sure I read this on JM's website)

Edited July 3, 200717 yr by RnB Rookie

List so far-

1) Towanda barnes/Gloria Barnes

2) Tobi Lark/Tobi Ledgend/Bessie Watson

3) Ty Karim/Towana & Total Destruction

4) Kendra Spotswood/Kenni Woods /Sandi Sheldon/Andy Alston/Alice Presley+Groups Shirelles/Pacettes/ Fantastic Vantastics/ Vonettes

5)Tammy Montgomery/Tammi Terrell

6)Jo Armstead/Deena Johnson

7) Dottie Cambridge/Dorothy Moore?

8) Linda Jones/Linda Lane

9) Alice Clark/Group-Dejah Ahres

10) Doris Willingham/Doris Duke

11) Ruby Stackhouse/Ruby Andrews

12) Beverly Ann/Beverly Bevers

13)Lavern Baker/Miss Sharecroper

14)Bessie Banks/Toni Banks

15)Blinky /Sondra Williams

16)Chris Clark /Connie Clark

17)Shirllee Ellis/Shirlee May

18)Gloris Lynne/Gloria Alleyne

19)Ester Phillips/Little Ester

20)Doris Troy /Doris Payne

21)Felice Taylor/Florian Taylor

22)Baby Washington /Justine Washington

23)Deniece Chandler /Deniece Williams

24)Barbra Acklin/Barbra Allen

25)Sandra Kay Tucker/Cindy Scott/Sundray Tucker

26)Syreeta/Rita Wright

Edited July 4, 200717 yr by Trevski

Read somewhere that Doris Willingham (on Jay Boy) is Doris Duke.

Ruby Stackhouse (Tack on Doris Duke and Friends LP) = Ruby Winters?

Not claming to be knowledgeable or owt, just on nights at work and board, so had a trawel through Dave Rimmers site https://www.soulfulkindamusic.net/ and came up with the following

1. Barbra Acklin = Barbra Allen
   
2. Beverly Ann = Beverly Bevers
   
3. Lavern Baker = Miss Sharecroper
   
4. Bessie Banks = Toni Banks
   
5. Blinky = Sondra Williams
   
6. Chris Clark = Connie Clark
   
7. Shirllee Ellis = Shirlee May
   
8. Gloris Lynne = Gloria Alleyne
   
9. Freda Payne = Scherrie Payne
   
10. Ester Phillips = Little Ester
    
11. Sandi Sheldon = Kenni Woods & Kenrda Woods
    
12. Dorris Troy = Dorris Payne
    
13. Felice Taylor = Florian Taylor
    
14. Baby Washington = Justine Washington
    
15. Deniece Chandler = Deniece Williams
    

I guess most will know these & some are a bit obvious, but it kept me busy for the last 40 mins

Edited July 4, 200717 yr by miff

Freda Payne = Scherrie Payne

Arrr, Sistears, sistars, never were there such devoted sistars....

Arrr, Sistears, sistars, never were there such devoted sistars....

Oops

Well it is my 8th night shift. thats my excuse any way

That is true. I was looking at the the Gloria Barnes album about 4 weeks ago and in the sleeve notes she's referred to as Gloria Towanda Barnes.

Pete, if you have that Gloria Barnes LP for sale, I'm definitely interested in buying !

So feel free to PM me mate ! Cheers !

Ruby Stackhouse (Tack on Doris Duke and Friends LP) = Ruby Winters?

Nearly right - Ruby Stackhouse = Ruby Andrews, not Winters

And here's another one that I woke up thinking about:

Sandra Kay Tucker (Peacock) = Cindy Scott (Veep/Neptune) = Sundray Tucker (TK)

Didn't Lorraine Chandler write as E Lewis to double up on the royalties ( common practice)?

Not claming to be knowledgeable or owt, just on nights at work and board, so had a trawel through Dave Rimmers site https://www.soulfulkindamusic.net/ and came up with the following

1. Barbra Acklin = Barbra Allen
   
2. Beverly Ann = Beverly Bevers
   
3. Lavern Baker = Miss Sharecroper
   
4. Bessie Banks = Toni Banks
   
5. Blinky = Sondra Williams
   
6. Chris Clark = Connie Clark
   
7. Shirllee Ellis = Shirlee May
   
8. Gloris Lynne = Gloria Alleyne
   
9. Freda Payne = Scherrie Payne
   
10. Ester Phillips = Little Ester
    
11. Sandi Sheldon = Kenni Woods & Kenrda Woods
    
12. Dorris Troy = Dorris Payne
    
13. Felice Taylor = Florian Taylor
    
14. Baby Washington = Justine Washington
    
15. Deniece Chandler = Deniece Williams
    

I guess most will know these & some are a bit obvious, but it kept me busy for the last 40 mins

While on this subject, can anyone confirm whether there was ever an official LP issued on Denise Chandler AKA Deniece Williams in the 60's, presumably on Toddlin Town, or even later in the 70's when she became famous, was there ever a vinyl LP of her 6T's output possibly to cash in on her fame?

Not as far fetched as it sounds for a small Chicago indie like Toddlin Town, as I have a various artists LP compilation issued by the company in '68 featuring their biggest act Alvin Cash ...

I have a vague recollection of someone like girl group expert Gilles Petard writing something on this subject. Wasn't it he who wrote a book or catalogue on LP releases of 6T's girl groups/soul girls ?

Edited July 4, 200717 yr by sunnysoul

Not claming to be knowledgeable or owt, just on nights at work and board, so had a trawel through Dave Rimmers site https://www.soulfulkindamusic.net/ and came up with the following

Chris Clark = Connie Clark

I've just been upstairs and played 'My Sugar Baby' - the singer doesn't sound anything like Chris Clark. Unless Chris herself has personally confirmed it, I think that this linking might be conjecture rather than fact.

However, while we're on Motown related matters, Syreeta and Rita Wright is a good one that nobody's come up with yet. And, of course, Valerie Simpson recorded as Tammi Terrell on many tracks that Tammi herself was too ill to finish up - "The Onion Song" being perhaps the most famous example.

Minnie Ripperton - Andrea Davis

Ronnie Spector - Veronica

Martha LaVelle - Martha Reeves (early solo apparently)

Did Baby Wahington ever record as Jeanette Washington as well as Justine.

Are there any recordings for Jamesetta Hawkins (Etta James)

Does anybody know if Geraldine Jones and Geraldine Hunt are one and the same - doesn't seem to be any obvious connection, just something I read somewhere.

Are there any recordings for Jamesetta Hawkins (Etta James)

No, as far as her recording career goes, she was Etta James right from day one.

I thought Towana is Ty Karim's daughter

DeDe Warwick 'Funny how we change places' same as DeDe Schwartz on RCA also came out on Musicor as Debra Anderson

Edited July 4, 200717 yr by Chunky

Wasn't Brendetta Davis on Liberty Brenda Holloway or was I imagining it?

Good thread this

Linda Griner = Lyn Roman

Pete, if you have that Gloria Barnes LP for sale, I'm definitely interested in buying !

So feel free to PM me mate ! Cheers !

Fraid it wasn't mine - it was my friend Roger's. Went round his house to pick up some singles he wanted me to sell and I couldn't believe the albums...any album you can think of, he'd got, I was going 'bet you haven't got so and so' and he'd go straight to it and show it me. It's a very rare album anyway I think, I doubt he'd sell it.

The Debra Anderson release of Funny How We Change Places is not Dee Dee Warwick.

I thought Towana is Ty Karim's daughter

She is, according to her other daughter.....

Girf

I've just been upstairs and played 'My Sugar Baby' - the singer doesn't sound anything like Chris Clark. Unless Chris herself has personally confirmed it, I think that this linking might be conjecture rather than fact.

Agreed Tony, I've never believed this story, at the time she was a secretary in Detroit while Frank Wilson was still out on the West Coast, so you'd think that if she ever recorded for a small label it would have been Detroit based!

Wasn't Brendetta Davis on Liberty Brenda Holloway or was I imagining it?

Good thread this

That's a rumor, started by the late Dave Godin, that nobody has ever confirmed.

However, while I'm here, here's another one I just thought of:

Sandy Wynns = Edna Wright, lead singer of - and in most cases, the only voice on recordings by - the Honey Cone. Edna is the sister of Darlene Love, of course, who recorded both solo as the lead singer with - among others! - The Crystals, the Blossoms, the Glass House (on "Touch Me Jesus"), Bob B. Soxx and the Blue Jeans (Bobby Sheen being the male lead), the Rebelettes, the Allisons, the Bootles and an almost untold amount of other groups!

Brenda Holloway did, however, also record as 'Bonnie' of 'Bonnie & Clyde' in In-Sound. 'Clyde' was Robert Jones, brother of the Gloria Jones of "Come Go With Me"/"Heartbeat"/Marc Bolan fame rather than the other Gloria Jones, who was in the Dreamers and also the Blossoms and who - I think, but I'm not sure - recorded solo as Vik. E. Lee, The Victorians and Gloria Melbourne.

Vaneese Thomas, sister of Carla, had an LP out mid 80s......also one half of Vaneese & Carolyn on Polydor.....don't recall who Carolyn was ???

Girf

Vaneese Thomas, sister of Carla, had an LP out mid 80s......

Girf

...and a nice clear vinyl US demo 12" as well!

So far then we have- confirmed,

1) Towanda barnes/Gloria Barnes

2) Tobi Lark/Tobi Ledgend/Bessie Watson

3) Sandy Wynns/Edna Wright/group-Honey Cone

4) Kendra Spotswood/Kenni Woods /Sandi Sheldon/Andy Alston/Alice Presley+Groups Shirelles/Pacettes/ Fantastic Vantastics/ Vonettes

5)Tammy Montgomery/Tammi Terrell

6)Jo Armstead/Deena Johnson

7) Dottie Cambridge/Dorothy Moore?

8) Linda Jones/Linda Lane

9) Alice Clark/Group-Dejah Ahres

10) Doris Willingham/Doris Duke/group-Uptights

11) Ruby Stackhouse/Ruby Andrews

12)DeDe Warwick/ DeDe Schwartz

13)Lavern Baker/ Little Miss Sharecroper

14)Sylvia St. Claire/Sylvia Shemwell/Sweet Inspirations

15)Blinky /Sondra Williams

16)Linda Griner/Lyn Roman

17)Shirllee Ellis/Shirlee May

18)Gloris Lynne/Gloria Alleyne

19)Ester Phillips/Little Ester

20)Doris Troy /Doris Payne

21)Syreeta/Rita Wright

22)Baby Washington /Justine Washington

23)Deniece Chandler /Deniece Williams

24)Barbra Acklin/Barbra Allen

25)Sandra Kay Tucker/Cindy Scott/Sundray Tucker

26)Beverly Bremers/Beverly Ann

29)Minnie Ripperton/Andrea Davis

30)Ronnie Spector/Veronica

31)Martha LaVelle/Martha Reeves

Ok updates made on info recieved. Anyone adding to list please use the above format so I can just copy/paste em in, please! (this is getting to be hard work!)

 

Edited July 4, 200717 yr by Trevski

So far then we have- confirmed,

1) Towanda barnes/Gloria Barnes

2) Tobi Lark/Tobi Ledgend/Bessie Watson

3) Sandy Wynns/Edna Wright/group-Honey Cone

4) Kendra Spotswood/Kenni Woods /Sandi Sheldon/Andy Alston/Alice Presley+Groups Shirelles/Pacettes/ Fantastic Vantastics/ Vonettes

5)Tammy Montgomery/Tammi Terrell

6)Jo Armstead/Deena Johnson

7) Dottie Cambridge/Dorothy Moore?

8) Linda Jones/Linda Lane

9) Alice Clark/Group-Dejah Ahres

10) Doris Willingham/Doris Duke

11) Ruby Stackhouse/Ruby Andrews

12) Beverly Ann/Beverly Bevers

13)Lavern Baker/Miss Sharecroper

14)Bessie Banks/Toni Banks

15)Blinky /Sondra Williams

16)Linda Griner/Lyn Roman

17)Shirllee Ellis/Shirlee May

18)Gloris Lynne/Gloria Alleyne

19)Ester Phillips/Little Ester

20)Doris Troy /Doris Payne

21)Felice Taylor/Florian Taylor

22)Baby Washington /Justine Washington

23)Deniece Chandler /Deniece Williams

24)Barbra Acklin/Barbra Allen

25)Sandra Kay Tucker/Cindy Scott/Sundray Tucker

26)Syreeta/Rita Wright

27)DeDe Warwick/ DeDe Schwartz

Trev -

After reasearching it a bit further, I've come to the conclusion that the Florian/Felice Taylor link is probably b*ll*cks as well. Felice would have been recording for Mustang and Kent as excatly the same time as Florian's one and only Groovy/Cadet 45 came out. Given that Felice was based in L.A. and that Groovy & Cadet are both Chicago labels, I think it's a highly unlikely connection.

Also, I can find no vinyl evidence that Bessie Banks ever recorded as anyone other than Bessie Banks. Or that Beverly Ann recorded as Beverly Bevers. I think that the key fact here has to be that singers actually made records by two or more names.

Speaking of which, Sylvia St. Claire on Brunswick is Sylvia Shemwell of the Sweet Inspirations, who also recorded as Sylvia Shemwell on Phillips. Sticking With Brunswick for a sec, Inez Johnston on that label is Inez Foxx. (and although he's not relevant to this thread, Chuck Johnston on Brunswick is Charlie Foxx, just to keep it in the family). Also Brunswick related, Big Maybelle made and released her first records - in the mid 1940s! - as Mabel Smith.

To be precise, LaVern Baker actually recorded as Little Miss Sharecropper, not merely 'Miss Sharecropper', in 1951 - around the same time as Mickie Champion was recording as part of a studio group called "The Nic Nacs" for RPM Records.

I'm sure I'll come up with a few more given time...

...and a nice clear vinyl US demo 12" as well!

Indeed - did that have the track killer non LP track, Love In Your Eyes, on it too. I know the US 45 / UK 12" did.....

Girf

So far then we have- confirmed,

1) Towanda barnes/Gloria Barnes

2) Tobi Lark/Tobi Ledgend/Bessie Watson

3) Sandy Wynns/Edna Wright/group-Honey Cone

4) Kendra Spotswood/Kenni Woods /Sandi Sheldon/Andy Alston/Alice Presley+Groups Shirelles/Pacettes/ Fantastic Vantastics/ Vonettes

5)Tammy Montgomery/Tammi Terrell

6)Jo Armstead/Deena Johnson

7) Dottie Cambridge/Dorothy Moore?

8) Linda Jones/Linda Lane

9) Alice Clark/Group-Dejah Ahres

10) Doris Willingham/Doris Duke

11) Ruby Stackhouse/Ruby Andrews

12)DeDe Warwick/ DeDe Schwartz

13)Lavern Baker/ Little Miss Sharecroper

14)Sylvia St. Claire/Sylvia Shemwell/Sweet Inspirations

15)Blinky /Sondra Williams

16)Linda Griner/Lyn Roman

17)Shirllee Ellis/Shirlee May

18)Gloris Lynne/Gloria Alleyne

19)Ester Phillips/Little Ester

20)Doris Troy /Doris Payne

21)Syreeta/Rita Wright

22)Baby Washington /Justine Washington

23)Deniece Chandler /Deniece Williams

24)Barbra Acklin/Barbra Allen

25)Sandra Kay Tucker/Cindy Scott/Sundray Tucker

Ok updates made on info recieved. Anyone adding to list please use the above format so I can just copy/paste em in, please! (this is getting to be hard work!)

doris willingham/duke was the lead singer of the uptights wigan biggie "shy guy"

Or that Beverly Ann recorded as Beverly Bevers.

Beverly Bremers says she was Beverly Ann herself on her website...

https://www.beverlybremers.com/recording.htm

Beverly Bremers says she was Beverly Ann herself on her website...

https://www.beverlybremers.com/recording.htm

1) Towanda barnes/Gloria Barnes

2) Tobi Lark/Tobi Ledgend/Bessie Watson

3) Sandy Wynns/Edna Wright/group-Honey Cone

4) Kendra Spotswood/Kenni Woods /Sandi Sheldon/Andy Alston/Alice Presley+Groups Shirelles/Pacettes/ Fantastic Vantastics/ Vonettes

5)Tammy Montgomery/Tammi Terrell

6)Jo Armstead/Deena Johnson

7) Dottie Cambridge/Dorothy Moore?

8) Linda Jones/Linda Lane

9) Alice Clark/Group-Dejah Ahres

10) Doris Willingham/Doris Duke/group-Uptights

11) Ruby Stackhouse/Ruby Andrews

12)DeDe Warwick/ DeDe Schwartz

13)Lavern Baker/ Little Miss Sharecroper

14)Sylvia St. Claire/Sylvia Shemwell/Sweet Inspirations

15)Blinky /Sondra Williams

16)Linda Griner/Lyn Roman

17)Shirllee Ellis/Shirlee May

18)Gloris Lynne/Gloria Alleyne

19)Ester Phillips/Little Ester

20)Doris Troy /Doris Payne

21)Syreeta/Rita Wright

22)Baby Washington /Justine Washington

23)Deniece Chandler /Deniece Williams

24)Barbra Acklin/Barbra Allen

25)Sandra Kay Tucker/Cindy Scott/Sundray Tucker

26)Beverly Bremers/Beverly Ann

29)Minnie Ripperton/Andrea Davis

30)Ronnie Spector/Veronica

31)Martha LaVelle/Martha Reeves

32)yvonne vernee/yvonne/group- elgins

33) Saundra Mallett/Saundra Edwards/group-elgins

Edited July 4, 200717 yr by Trevski

Beverly Bremers says she was Beverly Ann herself on her website...

https://www.beverlybremers.com/recording.htm

...That's different and, if she says so, undoubtedly correct. But it was stated, in an early post, that she recorded as Beverly Bevers, someone who I couldn't find any trace of ever having made any records.

BTW didn't David Bowie once record under the name of Anthony Newley? Or was that just wishful thinking on his part?

...That's different and, if she says so, undoubtedly correct. But it was stated, in an early post, that she recorded as Beverly Bevers, someone who I couldn't find any trace of ever having made any records.

BTW didn't David Bowie once record under the name of Anthony Newley? Or was that just wishful thinking on his part?

They do sound almost identical...Newley, bloody plagiarist

...That's different and, if she says so, undoubtedly correct. But it was stated, in an early post, that she recorded as Beverly Bevers, someone who I couldn't find any trace of ever having made any records.

BTW didn't David Bowie once record under the name of Anthony Newley? Or was that just wishful thinking on his part?

DB at the start of his career , admiitted that he styled his voca phrasing after one of his heroes , Anthony Newley ....

DB has also admitted that one of his heroes in later years was The Legendary Stardust Cowboy .....

Having not heard any of DB's releases recently , I am wandering if they are crooned in the style of The Ledge .....

Malc Burton

yvonne vernee, changed her name to yvonne allen when she joined the elgins

yvonne vernee, changed her name to yvonne allen when she joined the elgins

I think also that Saundra Mallett seemed to become Saundra Edwards when she joined (with the Deadbeats to become) the Elgins

DB at the start of his career , admiitted that he styled his voca phrasing after one of his heroes , Anthony Newley ....

DB has also admitted that one of his heroes in later years was The Legendary Stardust Cowboy .....

Having not heard any of DB's releases recently , I am wandering if they are crooned in the style of The Ledge .....

Malc Burton

We should be so lucky

alison moyet=aurthur mulard

heard somewhere years ago that lorraine chandler was also sharon scott on could it be me/id like to know

this was on here in the past month or so, emma rede was also jackie lee, not the mirwood man the rupert woman

heard somewhere years ago that lorraine chandler was also sharon scott on could it be me/id like to know

this was on here in the past month or so, emma rede was also jackie lee, not the mirwood man the rupert woman

I remember something similar. I think lorraine did record under a different name, not sure what tho'! any definate confirmation anyone?

Minnie Ripperton - Andrea Davis

Ronnie Spector - Veronica

Martha LaVelle - Martha Reeves (early solo apparently)

Did Baby Wahington ever record as Jeanette Washington as well as Justine.

Baby Washington had at least one release on the short-lived RCA subsidary Sixth Avenue in 1976 as JEANETTE BABY WASHINGTON! "Cup Runneth Over" (same song as Ronnie Dyson on Columbia)