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Been some talk of late about this record and that being ear damage, but with thanks to the mighty members of Soul Source we are now able to hear possibly the worst Northern track ever!

First saw this in a Pat Brady list circa 1990 - The Four Chaps - True Lovers/Will You Or Wont You. Therfore a legit Northern track I'd say.

Plug side is really not bad, but the flip can't be the same group? As a mate of mine said, it sounds like a bunch of East End barrow boys mucking about...

See what you think, but I defy anyone to come up with anything worse than this!

Plug Side (not bad)

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MP3 clip of b side 'Will You Or Wont You (very very bad).

The_Four_Chaps___will_you_or_wont_you.mp3

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YES THE B SIDE IS BAD

CHRIS :rolleyes:

It's not even soulful. Or anywhere near soulful.

What I really need is for Pete Smith to admit this is (in his opinion) a worse record than the Carstairs, because this IS the worst record ever!!!

Just because one side is Northern Soul it does NOT follow that the other side is!!

Will You Or Won't You is NOT NORTHERN SOUL.

When these records where made, often they would try to appeal to different listeners by putting different styles of music on the respective sides for maximum sales potential.

This negative kind of post usually starts a slagging match, because it does not take long until someones favorite record is rubished!

Just because one side is Northern Soul it does NOT follow that the other side is!!

Will You Or Won't You is NOT NORTHERN SOUL.

When these records where made, often they would try to appeal to different listeners by putting different styles of music on the respective sides for maximum sales potential.

This negative kind of post usually starts a slagging match, because it does not take long until someones favorite record is rubished!

Spot on,loads a shite flips all over the show :rolleyes: is true lovers same as Vogues if so like Vogues better,better try the flip might be worser than above biggrin.gif

Ian, truely shocking, easily the worst I've ever heard, but.....

Was it ever played out?

I cannot possibly imagine anybody having the front to play this, and as you say the other side seems to be from a totally different group.

Apparantly "Four Chaps - Will You Or Won't You" is "The Fenways spoofing the British Invasion sound complete with fake accents"

Des Parker

Now thats the ultimate sphincter spasm sound :rolleyes:

Apparantly "Four Chaps - Will You Or Won't You" is "The Fenways spoofing the British Invasion sound complete with fake accents"

Des Parker

Sounds plausible, same label, but even allowing for a "spoof" it's still shockingly bad.

Sounds plausible, same label, but even allowing for a "spoof" it's still shockingly bad.

Not as bad as "cath-the-drals" :rolleyes:

As someone who deals in all genres of Soul, I try and see the positive in all tunes, from all eras, but this is bad, even if we judge it as a "spoof". I cannot believe that this has ever been played in any type of Northern event and cannot believe that anyone would class this as "Northern" in any shape or form!

Des Parker

Remember the flip of Rita and the Tiarras on destiny ( dunno if its same flip on Dore) by accident, now that takes some beating :rolleyes:

It's not even soulful. Or anywhere near soulful.

What I really need is for Pete Smith to admit this is (in his opinion) a worse record than the Carstairs, because this IS the worst record ever!!!

Never gonna happen. Such a record does not exist.

But on this one, True Lovers is the Northern side, never even heard mention of the other side to be honest

JERRY NAYLOR CITY LIGHTS TOWER

Absolute load of Pants

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nice topic :rolleyes: ........for me the worst northern soul track ever is Phil Flowers & The Underdogs "Discontented" and can be found on Goldmine´s "For Milllionaires Only 4". I have no idea why Tim Brown put this on a Northern Soul CD ...this is definitely not SOUL it´s crap ! (IMO)

Worst Northern? I still haven't heard anything as bad as Joey Delorenzo. The search continues... sad.gif

Ironically you have IMO one of the best songs ever as your avatar Ian :rolleyes:

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JERRY NAYLOR CITY LIGHTS TOWER

Absolute load of Pants

One of Simsys faves........... :rolleyes:

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Just because one side is Northern Soul it does NOT follow that the other side is!!

Will You Or Won't You is NOT NORTHERN SOUL.

When these records where made, often they would try to appeal to different listeners by putting different styles of music on the respective sides for maximum sales potential.

This negative kind of post usually starts a slagging match, because it does not take long until someones favorite record is rubished!

As already stated both sides listed in Pat Brady sales list.

With respect it is not you or I that decides what is Northern. That is down to the DJ and the dancers. Not that anyone would ever dream of playing this out, but it's there all the same. If you want to split hairs you could say it's the B side of a Northern track.

Wouldn't worry yourself too much about this being anyones's fave record, most of our members have better taste than that. :rolleyes:

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About as bad as prince phillip mitchell.

if you like the side you bought it for and was doing a spot and got distracted and played this flip could you imagine the horror on the faces of those dancers :rolleyes: its got to be worth a play just to see their reaction laugh.gif

fooking terrible tune or whatever its classed as sad.gif

:rolleyes:

I think you should play this out next time you djing Simhead then it it can be official!! unsure.gif

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I think you should play this out next time you djing Simhead then it it can be official!! :rolleyes:

Chaps yes? Not City Lights.. Two on Ebay at the moment.. Fookin tempted I tell thee.

Was said above WYOWY may indeed be by another group?

Just nice to have some recognition of it's awfulness after all these years of suffering... biggrin.gif

halos are for angels blanch carter ...HATE IT closely followed by PANIC reperata & delrons a youth club fave!! :rolleyes:

halos are for angels blanch carter ...HATE IT closely followed by PANIC reperata & delrons a youth club fave!! :rolleyes:

Spot on with Blanche Carter...but how can anyone not like Panic? Gives me the shivers if I haven't heard it for a long time, reminds me of the very first time I heard it, someone had come back from Wigan and taped the night (this is a few months before I went) and I heard it on there, complete with clapping...fantastic times

Spot on with Blanche Carter...but how can anyone not like Panic? Gives me the shivers if I haven't heard it for a long time, reminds me of the very first time I heard it, someone had come back from Wigan and taped the night (this is a few months before I went) and I heard it on there, complete with clapping...fantastic times

Pete for my "15 minutes of fame" (so to speak as a perspective "record dealer") I actually found 7 copies of Reparata and the Delrons- Panic on UK Bell (if my memory serves me right) in the back of a toy shop called Hurleys in Pontypridd,back in the 70's amongst other things......looking back I wish I'd bought the toys.... whistling

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Apparantly "Four Chaps - Will You Or Won't You" is "The Fenways spoofing the British Invasion sound complete with fake accents"

Des Parker

So a different group on either side?

what about scratty terrible tune

There are dozens of bad Northern records too many to mention one or two that do spring to mind are Ben Zine - Village Of Tears, The Present - Many's The Slip etc. etc. but the one that stands head and shoulders above the rest for me is the totally naff Blanch Carter - Halos Are For Angels, aweful record.

Regards - Mark Bicknell.

halos are for angels blanch carter ...HATE IT closely followed by PANIC reperata & delrons a youth club fave!! :rolleyes:

Sorry missed your post but totally with you on Blanch Carter aweful record.

Regards - Mark Bicknell.

Been some talk of late about this record and that being ear damage, but with thanks to the mighty members of Soul Source we are now able to hear possibly the worst Northern track ever!

First saw this in a Pat Brady list circa 1990 - The Four Chaps - True Lovers/Will You Or Wont You. Therfore a legit Northern track I'd say.

Plug side is really not bad, but the flip can't be the same group? As a mate of mine said, it sounds like a bunch of East End barrow boys mucking about...

See what you think, but I defy anyone to come up with anything worse than this!

Plug Side (not bad)

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MP3 clip of b side 'Will You Or Wont You (very very bad).

The_Four_Chaps___will_you_or_wont_you.mp3

lady in green - gives me the shivers just mentioning it.

As already stated both sides listed in Pat Brady sales list.

With respect it is not you or I that decides what is Northern. That is down to the DJ and the dancers. Not that anyone would ever dream of playing this out, but it's there all the same. If you want to split hairs you could say it's the B side of a Northern track.

Wouldn't worry yourself too much about this being anyones's fave record, most of our members have better taste than that. :rolleyes:

POPPYCOCK.

"not down to you or I that decides what is Northern" - What a load of twaddle. I don't care who has it listed.

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I'm gonna play Scaffold - Lilly The Pink, and guess what - if one person dances to it, hey presto it's Northern!

True Lovers, now there's a nice tune - Northern too.

-Kev

SORRY MR.SIMS! You are wrong.Four Chaps -"true lovers" is a reallly nice tune,good dancer for the midtempo crew(imho).

The other side should never be played and therefore your membership to the Soul Police will be revoked with immediate effect!!!.(PUT IT DOWN TO "POST EDUARDO SYNDROME")>

PANIC-R & TD'S,is a classic.

3 records are tying for "worst ever"...

SIDNEY BARNES-STANDING ON SOLIDSH*T

DJ GENESIS-TRIBUTE TO SOMEBODY OR OTHER

and the worst till last.....KEN (SAFESTYLE)BARLOW-FOURTH WINDOW FROM THE LEFT.

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Funny you should mention the flip side to true lovers,talking about it to my mate only last week about how awful it was.

In reply to an earlier post, the "Four Chaps" ARE the "Fenways" doing a bit of a tongue in cheek spoof, bearing in mind that "True Lovers" was possibly intended as the "B" side, though the joke has been lost on me, for one!

Des Parker

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Just because one side is Northern Soul it does NOT follow that the other side is!!

Will You Or Won't You is NOT NORTHERN SOUL.

When these records where made, often they would try to appeal to different listeners by putting different styles of music on the respective sides for maximum sales potential.

This negative kind of post usually starts a slagging match, because it does not take long until someones favorite record is rubished!

Agree wid ya comments 100% Ivan :rolleyes:

(Blimey! me an you agreeing! dont tell the Bothy Boys on sunday nite! :unsure: )

steve

Worst Northern track ever in my opinion is:

MOONLIGHT MUSIC AND YOU- LAURA GREENE.

I'd rather drink from a bucket of vomit than have to sit through the entirety of this track.

JERRY NAYLOR CITY LIGHTS TOWER

Absolute load of Pants

Each to their own, but love City Lights.

Been some talk of late about this record and that being ear damage, but with thanks to the mighty members of Soul Source we are now able to hear possibly the worst Northern track ever!

First saw this in a Pat Brady list circa 1990 - The Four Chaps - True Lovers/Will You Or Wont You. Therfore a legit Northern track I'd say.

Plug side is really not bad, but the flip can't be the same group? As a mate of mine said, it sounds like a bunch of East End barrow boys mucking about...

See what you think, but I defy anyone to come up with anything worse than this!

Plug Side (not bad)

f4fd_2.JPG

MP3 clip of b side 'Will You Or Wont You (very very bad).

The_Four_Chaps___will_you_or_wont_you.mp3

Ian... True Lovers is a great record - this is the B side, and just cos it is listed on a site does not mean it is up for that side;' and not any where near what 'we' want - unless 'we' like Hermins Hermits which is what it sounds like...there are many bad 'other' side to good norther records. many of them...

but to highlight a B side is unfair...

I agree with others, lets stick to the sides which are supposed to be northern...

Blance Carter is truely the worst record played on the NS scene and it makes me want to puke

NO NO NO NO NO NO.........The above is deffo pants BUT will someone plz put up an mp3 of the worst ever no matter what comes and goes::::::: JULIE HARRIS - The PLAYGROUND there never has been and never will be anything so unsoulful yet labelled as NS!!!!!!

Rick

NO NO NO NO NO NO.........The above is deffo pants BUT will someone plz put up an mp3 of the worst ever no matter what comes and goes::::::: JULIE HARRIS - The PLAYGROUND there never has been and never will be anything so unsoulful yet labelled as NS!!!!!!

Rick

Anita Harris............doh!!

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Ian... True Lovers is a great record - this is the B side, and just cos it is listed on a site does not mean it is up for that side;' and not any where near what 'we' want - unless 'we' like Hermins Hermits which is what it sounds like...there are many bad 'other' side to good norther records. many of them...

but to highlight a B side is unfair...

I agree with others, lets stick to the sides which are supposed to be northern...

Blance Carter is truely the worst record played on the NS scene and it makes me want to puke

I hear what you say Dave, I do. But I've needed to vent on this for some time. This record is out there, it does exist, it is the b side of a half way not too bad northern track. Because of it's Dick Van Dykeness, it needed to be outed. It has been, so how ever many posts we are in now, as far as I'm concerned at least, it's job done! :lol:

A spoof is merely a cash-in that didn't fool anyone and failed. :lol:

OK Ken you know who I meant I was just so angry thinking about it lol

Rick

lady in green - gives me the shivers just mentioning it.

Flip it for a great tune "heart your made of stone" brill

Bazza

I hear what you say Dave, I do. But I've needed to vent on this for some time. This record is out there, it does exist, it is the b side of a half way not too bad northern track. Because of it's Dick Van Dykeness, it needed to be outed. It has been, so how ever many posts we are in now, as far as I'm concerned at least, it's job done! :lol:

What you on,should pack it in Simsy...........If ya want Dicky van dykes,bugger orf to Dicksource tell you what i`ll post the flips of Wigans chosen few or something stupid like that.

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What you on,should pack it in Simsy...........If ya want Dicky van dykes,bugger orf to Dicksource tell you what i`ll post the flips of Wigans chosen few or something stupid like that.

What are you on about?

You've got the wrong end of the stick. Unless this is another needless wind up post. Again.

Sigh.

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