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Wigan Casino Top Twenty

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Ee I were still in my 20s when this was published. August 30th 1975 compiled by Russ Winstanley & Richard Searling.

1. Cracked Up Over You - Tommy Hunt

2. Try A Little Harder - Key Men Strings

3. Don't Pretend - Mirwood Strings

4. Champion - Willie Mitchell

5. Let Me Do It - The Bells

6. Elijah Rocking With Soul - Hank Jacobs

7. The Notice - The Fidels

8. Exodus - Biddu

9. You've Come A Long Way baby - Flower Shoppe

10. Get Out - Tommy Hunt

11. Have Love Will Travel - Rosey Jones

12. So Is The Sun - World Column

13. So Sweet, So satisfying - Bobby Treetop

14. Save Your Love - Renee & Renato - no only joking (just) it's really Soul Patrol

15. You Sexy Sugar Plum - Roger Collins

16. It's Time To Move - Sam Green

17. Spider Man - Will Power

18. No Right To Cry - Mamie galore

19. Send Him Back - Pointer Sisters

20. You Touched Me - Judy Harris

New issues reviewed by James Hamilton in his 'Disco Page'include

Innervision - Honey Baby. Chocolate Milk - Action Speaks Louder Than Words. Esther Phillips - What A Difference A Day Makes. Tavares - It Only Takes A Minute. Bobby Moore - Call Me Your Anything Man. Natalie Cole - This Will Be. Betty Wright - Oo La La. WHAT A WEEK!! On balance maybe more soulful that the Top 20? :thumbup:

Slim

Perhaps I should have just scanned this but then I wouldn't have been able to link Rene & Renato with the Wigan Casino

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Would love to see a list from a year earlier - think the tunes would have been a tad better than Tommy Hunt- Flower Shoppe - Biddu etc.

Nah, certainly wasn't Wigan at it's height by that point. Too much Soussan Mirwood stuff in there, made for the scene stuff like Tommy Hunt and serious dodgies like Biddu, Flower Shoppe etc.

I was always biased towards Richard in terms of what he played to be honest and I'm not sure if this really reflects too much of Richard's taste here LOL....

Probably made more for the promo dept @ Spark Records methinks........

Ian D biggrin.gif

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2.....The Fidels on Keymen :thumbup:

I thought that too but this it is the Key Men Strings according to RM. Didn't Soussan record an instrumental as this? g.gif

As usual with the Casino, people forget what was actually played there and what were the BIG sounds.

I thought that too but this it is the Key Men Strings according to RM. Didn't Soussan record an instrumental as this? g.gif

Never mind that, what's "The Notice" by the Fidels and "Spider Man" - Will Power? I don't seem to know either of 'em unless my brain's finally turned to mush LOL.......

Ian D

Never mind that, what's "The Notice" by the Fidels and "Spider Man" - Will Power? I don't seem to know either of 'em unless my brain's finally turned to mush LOL.......

Ian D

Ian, the Fidels is "I'm Giving You Notice" on Dore.

Spider Man??

Ian, the Fidels is "I'm Giving You Notice" on Dore.

Spider Man??

Cover -up's eh! dontya just love'm laugh.gif

I thought that too but this it is the Key Men Strings according to RM. Didn't Soussan record an instrumental as this? g.gif

The DJM release B side is Try A Little Harder (Instrumental) - The Keymen Strings

no mention of Mr Soussan though

Cover -up's eh! dontya just love'm :unsure:

Doh! Thanks Dancingcollector....

Anything definitive on Spiderman yet though? Someone must know it - it was a Top 20 hit @ Wigan LOL.....

Ian D

Ian, the Fidels is "I'm Giving You Notice" on Dore.

Spider Man??

Cheers Tony. But "Spiderman"??????

Ian D

As usual with the Casino, people forget what was actually played there and what were the BIG sounds.

IMHO Wigan went pretty much downhill after 1975 - can remember Biddu etc. being played - they were just a taste of the shape of things to come.

HONEST ITS NOT A CU!

THINK ITS ON A MAJOR USA LABEL

Yeah right, Toad. And the check's in the mail etc, etc...

How about, like, the name of the artist, label and song? You'll be telling me that the vocal of "6X6" by Tony Turner on Musicor really exists at this rate LOL.....

Ian D :unsure:

SIR I RESPECT YOUR KNOWLEDGE AND I KNOW IM STILL SUFFERING FROM THE WEEKENDER BUT WOULD I LIE HA HA

A BET FOR CHARITY? :unsure:

INFACT IM GONA SEARCH FOR THE TAPE AND POST IT UP BUT DONT HOLD YOUR BREATHE

WHERES FLUFF WHEN YOU NEED HIM

SIR I RESPECT YOUR KNOWLEDGE AND I KNOW IM STILL SUFFERING FROM THE WEEKENDER BUT WOULD I LIE HA HA

A BET FOR CHARITY? :D

INFACT IM GONA SEARCH FOR THE TAPE AND POST IT UP BUT DONT HOLD YOUR BREATHE

WHERES FLUFF WHEN YOU NEED HIM

Where's ANYONE who has any info on this Top 20 Wigan smash. LOL?

I think we can safely say it didn't stick around long. It's not some horrible instrumental is it? Like "Theme From Spiderman" by Ron Grainger & Orch.........?

Ian D :unsure:

Where's ANYONE who has any info on this Top 20 Wigan smash. LOL?

I think we can safely say it didn't stick around long. It's not some horrible instrumental is it? Like "Theme From Spiderman" by Ron Grainger & Orch.........?

Ian D :unsure:

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hi fluff here !

spiderman is on private stock...

regards

mark

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Where's ANYONE who has any info on this Top 20 Wigan smash. LOL?

I think we can safely say it didn't stick around long. It's not some horrible instrumental is it? Like "Theme From Spiderman" by Ron

Anything definitive on Spiderman yet though? Someone must know it - it was a Top 20 hit @ Wigan LOL.....

Ian D

Not Ramsey Lewis - 'What's the name of this funk' is it? Also known as Spiderman.

Here's a Youtube clip

Nah, certainly wasn't Wigan at it's height by that point. Too much Soussan Mirwood stuff in there, made for the scene stuff like Tommy Hunt and serious dodgies like Biddu, Flower Shoppe etc.

I was always biased towards Richard in terms of what he played to be honest and I'm not sure if this really reflects too much of Richard's taste here LOL....

Probably made more for the promo dept @ Spark Records methinks........

Ian D :unsure:

I agree, I went and taped stuff at this time and there was a lot better top sounds played than these tracks.

IMHO Wigan went pretty much downhill after 1975

Yawn!!.... :unsure:

Why is it whenever anyone posts anything about Wigan on this board someone always has to throw in the same old-same old tired comment of ..."It stopped being a credible venue after.....(Insert the year of your Choice)"

No where in the original post does it ask for an opinion of what year Wigan was Crap from!........ so why bother??...

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Never mind that, what's "The Notice" by the Fidels and "Spider Man" - Will Power? I don't seem to know either of 'em unless my brain's finally turned to mush LOL.......

Ian D

im with you mr d what are these strange tunes???,mush 4 brains me!! :unsure::D

IMHO Wigan went pretty much downhill after 1975 - can remember Biddu etc. being played - they were just a taste of the shape of things to come.

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still did well to last another 6 years !!

didnt these get played elsewhere too??

Why would you think that 'Cracked up.... by Tommy Hunt' was number one as apposed to the original version by Danny White? Wierd?? And what about 'Get out'? Tommy Hunt again, why not Harold Melvin?. This get's curiouser and curiouser '/,.'[=,;@:['><:[+- :thumbsup: Can't speak too loud though, Tommy only lives down the road from me shhhhhhhh!!!!!

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Why would you think that 'Cracked up.... by Tommy Hunt' was number one as apposed to the original version by Danny White? Wierd?? And what about 'Get out'? Tommy Hunt again, why not Harold Melvin?. This get's curiouser and curiouser '/,.'[=,;@:['><:[+-

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steve ...it was cracking up over you....cover version of roy hamilton..tommy s 1st UK Chart hit ..got to no.39 i oct 75....

there was another version of get out much faster played as well...not wakefiled sun..

YEP DEFINATLY A RECORD CALLED "SPIDERMAN" HAVE IT ON A TAPE FROM 79/80

Seem to think the song contained the words "Spiderman - where are you coming from Spiderman" - very uptempo if memory serves me correctly.

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Seem to think the song contained the words "Spiderman - where are you coming from Spiderman" - very uptempo if memory serves me correctly.

Ian, the Fidels is "I'm Giving You Notice" on Dore.

Spider Man??

Betty Webb ? laugh.gif ......

It is a wonder that the other god - awful Biddu " opus " - Northern Soul Dancer - is not in there ........

Malc Burton

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Not Ramsey Lewis - 'What's the name of this funk' is it? Also known as Spiderman.

Yes? No? Hello.... anyone out there? :unsure:

here goes..if ive done it right

ask can you try and use refosoul

the attachments will get deleted one day, dont show up in search well, take too much space up, hard to keep a eye on and there's copyright issues as well

ta

mike

as gavin once said. its a car park get over it.as a person from further down the road who went elsewhwere as well it played so much crap it was more of a trophy venue than anything else.musically places like yate although they had there moments (the lurch) and later stafford and clifton hall pissed all over it! :thumbup: hope im not being annoying again that iv just got in from the pub.

trev

northampton.

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steve ...it was cracking up over you....cover version of roy hamilton..tommy s 1st UK Chart hit ..got to no.39 i oct 75....

there was another version of get out much faster played as well...not wakefiled sun..

Yes I know about the cover version by Tommy Hunt, but even the original version of this by Roy Hamilton was far bigger at the Casino than this version. I suppose at the time it was a big tune even though it was a cover, but nowhere near as good as the real thing. and why does it say 'Cracked up over you' instead of 'Cracking up over you'?, the Silly Billies!

Edited by steveluigi

Yes I know about the cover version by Tommy Hunt, but even the original version of this by Roy Hamilton was far bigger at the Casino than this version. I suppose at the time it was a big tune even though it was a cover, but nowhere near as good as the real thing. and why does it say 'Cracked up over you' instead of 'Cracking up over you'?, the Silly Billies!

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yes roy hamilton -still a great record eh?

as gavin once said. its a car park get over it.as a person from further down the road who went elsewhwere as well it played so much crap it was more of a trophy venue than anything else.musically places like yate although they had there moments (the lurch) and later stafford and clifton hall pissed all over it! :unsure: hope im not being annoying again that iv just got in from the pub.

trev

I've been to loads of allnighters for the last 35 years, and they all seem a bit of a kids playground compared to Mr M's!! That dance floor at 4am when you could not get another person on it, and hardly room to move a step, condensation running down to walls, shivers up the back of your neck, then just imagine the intro to "A Little Bit Hurt" well if you weren't there its hard to explain!!!!!! and I've just got in from the pub. You can't say it was crap because in the main hall Richard Searling was on!!! Rose Valentine and the Sisters Three, Nomads, "Can't get over these memories" Tie.

as gavin once said. its a car park get over it.as a person from further down the road who went elsewhwere as well it played so much crap it was more of a trophy venue than anything else.musically places like yate although they had there moments (the lurch) and later stafford and clifton hall pissed all over it! :unsure: hope im not being annoying again that iv just got in from the pub.

trev

northampton.

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im not saying wigan was better than anywhere else BUT

ive yet to see a Yate playlist that was BETTER than Wigan,,,of the ones ive seen they were pretty similar....almost identical ..

come on someone prove me wrong.

Can't go wrong, it had Pointer Sisters - Send Him back in list but i do see that some of the songs are like bad

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steve ...it was cracking up over you....cover version of roy hamilton..tommy s 1st UK Chart hit ..got to no.39 i oct 75....

there was another version of get out much faster played as well...not wakefiled sun..

Think the Get Out was Bob Kuban from an LP

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im not saying wigan was better than anywhere else BUT

ive yet to see a Yate playlist that was BETTER than Wigan,,,of the ones ive seen they were pretty similar....almost identical ..

come on someone prove me wrong.

Mark, with the greatest respect, I went to both Wigan & Yate, probably spent more time at Wigan tho to be fair, but, even you must realise that a lot of things that were first played at Yate, travelled northwards & in the mists of time have become 'Wigan' plays. I dont think you can really compare the two venues, they were both brilliant in there own way & more to the point Yate was not trying to emulate Wigan, it had its own identity, with its own sounds, but back to the point, many original Yate plays from the likes of Ian Clark particularly went on to become Wigan classics.

And for those people that suggest Wigan was crap after whatever date..........bollox, RS IMHO didnt really come into his own until 78/79, again my opinion, but this was RS golden era IMHO & lets not forget that RS later Wigan plays, were also spun by him at Stafford & other venues after Wigan closed.

Im not really one for nostalgia with regards to past venues, because 'soul' life goes on, this play list is more of a promotional tool & not really a true reflection & as with all venues there are records played that are 'of the time' that dont look or sound as good X many years down the line.

For Trev...........yes, get over Wigan agreed, but without a doubt Wigan was special in every way, warts & all & shouldnt be trivialised when reflecting on the history of NS. There have been venues past & present that have been musically as good, but nothing could compare to a Wigan Casino Allnighter as a whole experience.........without sounding 'wet' as a youngster I was reduced to tears on more than one occasion as the final tunes were played...........it was a truly, truly awesome venue, yes, its in the past so lets not harp on about it constantly & I for one am a great beleiver in a progressive NSS that constantly evolves musically, but I think we should treat the venue with the respect that it deserves in NS history.

Lecture over.

Russ

Russ

Mark, with the greatest respect, I went to both Wigan & Yate, probably spent more time at Wigan tho to be fair, but, even you must realise that a lot of things that were first played at Yate, travelled northwards & in the mists of time have become 'Wigan' plays. I dont think you can really compare the two venues, they were both brilliant in there own way & more to the point Yate was not trying to emulate Wigan, it had its own identity, with its own sounds, but back to the point, many original Yate plays from the likes of Ian Clark particularly went on to become Wigan classics.

And for those people that suggest Wigan was crap after whatever date..........bollox, RS IMHO didnt really come into his own until 78/79, again my opinion, but this was RS golden era IMHO & lets not forget that RS later Wigan plays, were also spun by him at Stafford & other venues after Wigan closed.

Im not really one for nostalgia with regards to past venues, because 'soul' life goes on, this play list is more of a promotional tool & not really a true reflection & as with all venues there are records played that are 'of the time' that dont look or sound as good X many years down the line.

For Trev...........yes, get over Wigan agreed, but without a doubt Wigan was special in every way, warts & all & shouldnt be trivialised when reflecting on the history of NS. There have been venues past & present that have been musically as good, but nothing could compare to a Wigan Casino Allnighter as a whole experience.........without sounding 'wet' as a youngster I was reduced to tears on more than one occasion as the final tunes were played...........it was a truly, truly awesome venue, yes, its in the past so lets not harp on about it constantly & I for one am a great beleiver in a progressive NSS that constantly evolves musically, but I think we should treat the venue with the respect that it deserves in NS history.

Lecture over.

Russ

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hi russ

no lecture mate,,love reading stuff like this from those that were there!!

cheers

mark

As usual with the Casino, people forget what was actually played there and what were the BIG sounds.

Exactly. I would have thought that at that time as well, Winstanleys input into that top twenty would have been greater than RS's. Which probably explains a few things. :wicked:

here goes..if ive done it right

That is seriously awful :lol: must of been a right b*gg*r on the calf muscles :D

Exactly. I would have thought that at that time as well, Winstanleys input into that top twenty would have been greater than RS's. Which probably explains a few things. :D

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love or hate Russ

probably broke and played more records that i and alot of other djs ever will in their life time

for every joe 90 he spun 9 other great ones imo...

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Doh! Thanks Dancingcollector....

Anything definitive on Spiderman yet though? Someone must know it - it was a Top 20 hit @ Wigan LOL.....

Ian D

It's on Warner Bros I think - once had one in a collection, thought it was there by mistake and never played it.

(sorry Mark just seen your reply about it being on privatestock)

The Fidels instrumental was put out by SS on a dodgy Veejay label but it was the actual backing track and not a rerecorded one

Edited by Pete S

It's on Warner Bros I think - once had one in a collection, thought it was there by mistake and never played it.

The Fidels instrumental was put out by SS on a dodgy Veejay label but it was the actual backing track and not a rerecorded one

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pete,spiderman is on private stock,,see earlier post,,

as bad as spiderman is ,,its not as bad as that twiggy 45!!

best

mark

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