Just been listening to a live Wigan tape , mid 70's , and this record got hammered , heard it a few times at oldies nights in the 80's , but not since then , does it still get played and what's the dancefloor reaction , is it single only or included on an album somewhere ???

Just been listening to a live Wigan tape , mid 70's , and this record got hammered , heard it a few times at oldies nights in the 80's , but not since then , does it still get played and what's the dancefloor reaction , is it single only or included on an album somewhere ???

Probably not played out much I'd expect, but its still Brilliant!!

Mal.C.

Wouldn't be seen dead with it in my playbox. But it's a great pop record and I have a copy.

Wouldn't be seen dead with it in my playbox. But it's a great pop record and I have a copy.

Got the Roger Earl Okin on Columbia which is a tad slower and male of course.

Got the Roger Earl Okin on Columbia which is a tad slower and male of course.

that's the original

that's the original

No it's not, he wrote it but his version came out a lot later than Helen Shapiro's.

No it's not, he wrote it but his version came out a lot later than Helen Shapiro's.

Hmmmm I am sure I read it in RC when they interviewed him recently, if I got it wrong sorry.

No it's not, he wrote it but his version came out a lot later than Helen Shapiro's.

Wasn' t there another version on Destiny as well........Think there was another version of Spring Rain as well on Destiny.Someones going to come on and say the woman that recorded it was a dinner lady in a Nottingham comprehensive or something.

Hmmmm I am sure I read it in RC when they interviewed him recently, if I got it wrong sorry.

Think his came out in 68 or 69, used to have a demo, might be wrong

If my memory serves me right....

Rushton-Inferno

Roberts-Destiny.....or l could be wrong

Was Inferno original release reissues and Destiny cover versions then.

Was Inferno original release reissues and Destiny cover versions then.

no some Destiny;s were originals like John Leach, Delites etc.

Edited May 6, 201015 yr by Steve G

no some Destiny;s were originals like John Leach, Delites etc.

Remembered Rita And The Tiaras and James Coit came out on Destiny.

It came out on Destiny, by Carol Kaye in the 70s

Probably not played out much I'd expect, but its still Brilliant!!

Mal.C.

here it now and again, great tune, had it many yrs ago, want a copy again but cant find one, except seen one on a list recently well overpriced

iv e had my issue for ages.....ginger taylor played this on the sunday night at prestatyn......its still good northern soul imo......

As I say Mark a very good record. Just wouldn't play it out. Same as Kiki Dee, Paula Parfitt, Sue Lynn etc, I like all of them, and have copies in my collection.

i know mate,,,(bet u play em secretly at home really lol).....theyre records from an era arent they and of interest to oldies fans only....i love barry st john as well - everything i touch turns to tears...

Think his came out in 68 or 69, used to have a demo, might be wrong

the uk copy is 1972 i think pete.i remember seeing a demo a while back and its a long while after helens. i love helens version. used to have a G & W demo but it went with all the other uk demo`s

Edited May 7, 201015 yr by dave pinch

the uk copy is 1972 i think pete.i remember seeing a demo a while back and its a long while after helens. i love helens version. used to have a G & W demo but it went with all the other uk demo`s

It's 69 for definite Dave, just checked to confirm. Anway, whatever, it's a sh!t version compared to HS.

It's 69 for definite Dave, just checked to confirm. Anway, whatever, it's a sh!t version compared to HS.

i know mate,,,(bet u play em secretly at home really lol).....theyre records from an era arent they and of interest to oldies fans only....i love barry st john as well - everything i touch turns to tears...

ACTUALLY QUITE LIKE BRIAN POOLES VERSION OF THIS ON UK CBS

BRI PINCH

ACTUALLY QUITE LIKE BRIAN POOLES VERSION OF THIS ON UK CBS

BRI PINCH

There's even a Cilla Black version (LP only) and I think I had one by Jimmy Clanton. Barry St John - fantastic.

Skipped through a few posts.

So this Carol Kay version is some sort of tailor made?

Still great, though.

Skipped through a few posts.

So this Carol Kay version is some sort of tailor made?

Still great, though.

Yes it is.

God, this is amazing!

Is it UK only? Price?

if i can find it u can have mine for nowt!

It's 69 for definite Dave, just checked to confirm. Anway, whatever, it's a sh!t version compared to HS.

i was just doing that from memory pete . i knew it was later. .your certainly right about it being shit compared to helens version

dave

Edited May 7, 201015 yr by dave pinch

If it's a Casino night it should be played, it was a monster so should the other Big floorfilling "POP" tunes otherwise you are doing what the yanks do with their version of history in their films.

if i can find it u can have mine for nowt!

Thanks Grant. I literally listened to it about 8 or 10 times in a row last night.

spring rain was by the destiny orch sugar dumpling on the b side delites was withdrawn think grapevine got it first ,personally i love chico revill's version of this beautiful day

went to robs in nottm when they were released to buy the set and he gave me all the white demos

kev

Hmmmm I am sure I read it in RC when they interviewed him recently, if I got it wrong sorry.

oi steve........we don,t want any pop tunes.......helen shapiro is one tune you can gladly leave at home.........FOREVER LOL

sorry im late with this thread! what a tune....lets not blether over the pop aspect and the fact its helen shapiro...it just has that quality. had an issue and had it on the 25th anniversary lp released in 85, wouldnt mind one now either and barry st john is class. both should be played right now!

rob.h

Just been listening to a live Wigan tape , mid 70's , and this record got hammered , heard it a few times at oldies nights in the 80's , but not since then , does it still get played and what's the dancefloor reaction , is it single only or included on an album somewhere ???

Brilliant track by a fantastic singer

No,sorry there was aversion by Inner City Express

maybe not on destiny though

kev

No,sorry there was aversion by Inner City Express

Yes by that was a straight cover version at the time - think it's on Ebony - got one somewhere

Terry - fear not, I never put the pop in the playbox It stays at home.....

Just been listening to a live Wigan tape , mid 70's , and this record got hammered , heard it a few times at oldies nights in the 80's , but not since then , does it still get played and what's the dancefloor reaction , is it single only or included on an album somewhere ???

HI ALL.. I THOUGHT IT, DID GET A SPIN I REMEMBER THROWING IT OUT OF A CAR WINDOW ON THE AI NEAR SANDY, BEDS... THIS IS JUST AN EXCUSE TO PUT MY MINTY ONE ONE HERE! AND WOULD jOHNNY mANSHIP LIKE THIS COPY?. IT IS RARE FOR ALL THE RIGHT REASONS ALSO IT IS A EXCELLANT FIND (MICK S) REMINDS ME OF EVERY THING THAT WAS GOOD IN 77 DAVE

THEY DON'T COME BETTER!!

HI ALL.. I THOUGHT IT, DID GET A SPIN I REMEMBER THROWING IT OUT OF A CAR WINDOW ON THE AI NEAR SANDY, BEDS... THIS IS JUST AN EXCUSE TO PUT MY MINTY ONE ONE HERE! AND WOULD jOHNNY mANSHIP LIKE THIS COPY?. IT IS RARE FOR ALL THE RIGHT REASONS ALSO IT IS A EXCELLANT FIND (MICK S) REMINDS ME OF EVERY THING THAT WAS GOOD IN 77 DAVE

THEY DON'T COME BETTER!!

NICE

USED TO HAVE A NICE GREEN/WHITE DEMO BACK IN THE 90T'S, IF I RECALL THE OTHER SIDE, SHE NEEDS COMPANY..... WASN'T A BAD TRACK ANORL

BRI PINCH

HI ALL.. I THOUGHT IT, DID GET A SPIN I REMEMBER THROWING IT OUT OF A CAR WINDOW ON THE AI NEAR SANDY, BEDS... THIS IS JUST AN EXCUSE TO PUT MY MINTY ONE ONE HERE! AND WOULD jOHNNY mANSHIP LIKE THIS COPY?. IT IS RARE FOR ALL THE RIGHT REASONS ALSO IT IS A EXCELLANT FIND (MICK S) REMINDS ME OF EVERY THING THAT WAS GOOD IN 77 DAVE

THEY DON'T COME BETTER!!

i had that. bought it from swish. got rid of it tho

If it's a Casino night it should be played, it was a monster so should the other Big floorfilling "POP" tunes otherwise you are doing what the yanks do with their version of history in their films.

Not that I'm the slightest bit interested in going to one but how are you "rewriting history" you can't play every record ever played there & perhaps the DJs involved are playing their own favourite casino memories & to them it may not include pop music whether it's a good dancer or not ?

Not that I'm the slightest bit interested in going to one but how are you "rewriting history" you can't play every record ever played there & perhaps the DJs involved are playing their own favourite casino memories & to them it may not include pop music whether it's a good dancer or not ?

Then this must be one of the many over looked classics that dont fit in todays scene

Sold my copy good few years ago now £100.00 i think

Just been listening to a live Wigan tape , mid 70's , and this record got hammered , heard it a few times at oldies nights in the 80's , but not since then , does it still get played and what's the dancefloor reaction , is it single only or included on an album somewhere ???

Great record remember dancing my arse off to it at Wigan I played a copy at the Seattle weekender last November Just to show a few of our U.S. brethren that it was possible to bring a dancer from the other side of the pond:thumbsup:

As I say Mark a very good record. Just wouldn't play it out. Same as Kiki Dee, Paula Parfitt, Sue Lynn etc, I like all of them, and have copies in my collection.

To my mind they are the oldies that deserve to be played out these days. I'd rather hear Kiki Dee and Sue Lynn than Frank bleedin Wilson again.

Not that I'm the slightest bit interested in going to one but how are you "rewriting history" you can't play every record ever played there & perhaps the DJs involved are playing their own favourite casino memories & to them it may not include pop music whether it's a good dancer or not ?

I agree you can't play every record, but a f**king lot of the biggest floorfillers are never played full stop so it can't be a true reflection of the Casino. I'm not saying they are great soul records, but they were certainly Casino floorfillers, and to ignore them is rewriting history.

still after helen shapiro if anyone has one for sale

i know mate,,,(bet u play em secretly at home really lol).....theyre records from an era arent they and of interest to oldies fans only....i love barry st john as well - everything i touch turns to tears...

I think you have an alter ego

I think I'm going to book your alter ego

do i??? lol ..

yes a great tune ,got mine from a car boot 50p a bargin

I agree you can't play every record, but a f**king lot of the biggest floorfillers are never played full stop so it can't be a true reflection of the Casino. I'm not saying they are great soul records, but they were certainly Casino floorfillers, and to ignore them is rewriting history.

HI ALL...AGAIN I TOTALY AGREE, AS MUCH AS I RESPECT THE FRANK WILSON IS A RARE RECORD, NOT THE COPYS YOU HEAR OUT ARE NOT, IF YOU CONPAIR THE RAREITY OF JUST THE 4 UK PRODUCED 45s, AND CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG, I HAVE ALWAYS KEPT THE FAITH ON NOT PLAYING SECOND ISSUES AND DEFO NOT PLAYING BOOTLEGS & CDs..I HAVE SAID IT BEFORE, EVEN TO POEPLE THAT HAVE A DJ BOX OF TOP RARE 45s HOW MANY RECORDS IN YOUR COLECTION? KNOWING THAT THE DJ BOX IS THE COLLECTION, IF IT WAS ME DJing I WOULD TREAT THE SPOT AS A REMINDER OF TRENDS CLUBS WITH REAL RARE RECORDS THAT MAY NOT BE TOP PRICE BUT ARE WHAT THEY ARE FORGOTON SOUNDS. THIS IS WHY I DONT GET ASKED TO DJ AS I WOULD PUT TO SHAME MANY EGO DJs DAVE(let's start with the ACTION Label)KIL

I agree you can't play every record, but a f**king lot of the biggest floorfillers are never played full stop so it can't be a true reflection of the Casino. I'm not saying they are great soul records, but they were certainly Casino floorfillers, and to ignore them is rewriting history.

One come to mind, Jason Knight 'our love is getting stronger' massive at wigan, never heard it played anywhere else, its a shame coz i loved that record, and still got it, in fact i may play it out at the next Banbury soul club do

HI ALL .. JASON KNIGHT A SUPERLATIVE UK PRODUCED RECORD, MASSIVE IN 72, PLAYS GREAT SANDWICHED BETWEEN THE FULLER BROS AND JERRY WILLIAMS, IT SOUNDS AS FRESH AN AS GOOD AS I REMEMBERED, THIS ISSUE IS THE ONLY ONE I HAVE OWNED BUT I HAVE OWNED 2 DEMOS? IS THE ISSUE RARER?? ALSO FOR SOME REASON I HAVE CONVINCED MY SELF ANDY SPENCER HAD THIS ON A BLUE PYE LABEL..WAS THAT A 1st RUN OF THE REISSUE OR THE LAST RUN FROM THE RED LABEL???

I HAVE ALSO PUT THE KENNY BERNARD CLASSIC ON, AS IT IS ANOTHER UK PRODUCTION, THAT STILL SOUNDS GREAT, DISCOVER BY MICK SMITH, TAKEN TO BLACKPOOL MECCA AND SPUN BY TONY JEBB, A MUST HAVE RECORD.

100ish WORTH A 100ish ON ISSUE, OR DEMO 150+ AND STILL CHEAP AT ABOUT H MUCH MORE! DAVE