A few years have passed since it sold for something like £25,742 a few days after it sold Ginger Taylor at Blackpool Tower Played it (twice) and claimed it was he that bought it !

Does anyone know if that's true ?

Or are there other rumour's regarding the purchaser that will ensure that it becomes enshrined in northern soul folk law !

As a classic what would you give it ?

Marks out of Ten I'd say 6

Edited February 25, 201213 yr by allnightandy

A few years have passed since it sold for something like £47,000 a few days after it sold Ginger Taylor at Blackpool Tower Played it (twice) and claimed it was he that bought it !

Does anyone know if that's true ?

Or are there other rumour's regarding the purchaser that will ensure that it becomes enshrined in northern soul folk law !

Half that amount......

Half that amount......

your right £25,742 don't know where that came from

Cheers andy

Edited February 25, 201213 yr by allnightandy

A few years have passed since it sold for something like £25,742 a few days after it sold Ginger Taylor at Blackpool Tower Played it (twice) and claimed it was he that bought it !

Does anyone know if that's true ?

Or are there other rumour's regarding the purchaser that will ensure that it becomes enshrined in northern soul folk law !

Can remember asking John Manship not long after it sold at Whitby and he wouldn,t even say where it had gone to. The buyer wanted to remain anonymous,i would too its not that good.

What a disgusting waste of money.

Big mate of Kenny`s mentioned that Steve Davis (snooker) was "in the frame"

On 25/02/2012 at 09:23, Rbman said:

Half that amount......

Half of "6 out of 10" or "£25742" ?

Edited December 20, 20186 yr by theothertosspot

It was me, on behalf of the Pope. And we all know which one.

For some reason there was a rumour at the time of sale it was bought by someone in Hull for £27,000???Never been able to establish by who or the truth of that bit of info?

Cheers

Martyn.......who doesn't own Frank W

Right time and place an absolute classic, but these days? Would it even find its way into an oldies set now, never mind a set of current styles? Just a very unfashionable record, but fashions change...

Right time and place an absolute classic, but these days? Would it even find its way into an oldies set now, never mind a set of current styles? Just a very unfashionable record, but fashions change...

on an OVO night its highly unlikely to find its way into an oldies set.

2 copies and it seems that the majority of people (me included) don't know who has one of them................

heard somewhere that jools holland had bought it,

i guess we'll never know who's got it unless it comes up for sale again some day with the owners name,

joe.

heard somewhere that jools holland had bought it,

i guess we'll never know who's got it unless it comes up for sale again some day with the owners name,

joe.

thats another name to add to the list of potential owners i've not heard that one before.

Mark Lamar gets mentioned as well at times.

its in hull folks

its in hull folks

If that's true there's only a couple of lads who it could be...........unfortunately I'm not one of them

Cheers

Martyn

Big mate of Kenny`s mentioned that Steve Davis (snooker) was "in the frame"

Heard this one myself a few times now Steve not letting on though..

i cant believe you all want to bring this one up again...........are you all bored or something?....or waiting for lifeline tonight??

IF you want, i'll put you ALL straight about this......the price IS correct,....NO, to this day no-one knows WHO the owner of THAT copy is....

THE OTHER ONE belongs to tim brown, and, bearing in mind and we're talking about oneupmanship here, TIM is the ONLY person who has a genuine right to play it,....EVERYBODY ELSE plays u.k. motown issues or.....dare i say it, bootlegs.

AND, just to nail this once and for all, ken & rona are close personal friends and, as we've been to visit on many occasions, ive SEEN the evidence of the sale with my own eyes.

If that's true there's only a couple of lads who it could be...........unfortunately I'm not one of them

Cheers

Martyn

Indeed You Do

Edited February 25, 201213 yr by donkit

i cant believe you all want to bring this one up again...........are you all bored or something?....or waiting for lifeline tonight??

IF you want, i'll put you ALL straight about this......the price IS correct,....NO, to this day no-one knows WHO the owner of THAT copy is....

THE OTHER ONE belongs to tim brown, and, bearing in mind and we're talking about oneupmanship here, TIM is the ONLY person who has a genuine right to play it,....EVERYBODY ELSE plays u.k. motown issues or.....dare i say it, bootlegs.

AND, just to nail this once and for all, ken & rona are close personal friends and, as we've been to visit on many occasions, ive SEEN the evidence of the sale with my own eyes.

Oooohhhh the anger in your post. Close your eyes,...... relax........ think of nothing but darkness and put all thoughts out of your mind.

Now everyone get a life. Does it really matter who bought it?

copy is....

THE OTHER ONE belongs to tim brown, and, bearing in mind and we're talking about oneupmanship here, TIM is the ONLY person who has a genuine right to play it,....EVERYBODY ELSE plays u.k. motown issues or.....dare i say it, bootlegs.

Exactly as I was saying.

the only people who have a right to play this are tim, Mr X and colin curtis who is allowed to play it off CD

If that's true there's only a couple of lads who it could be...........unfortunately I'm not one of them

Cheers

Martyn

That's cos you wasted yer money on that RL Burnshite :lol:

I seem to recall that JM did say that the FW is indeed residing in Hull.

Edited February 25, 201213 yr by soulfulmick

Oooohhhh the anger in your post. Close your eyes,...... relax........ think of nothing but darkness and put all thoughts out of your mind.

Now everyone get a life. Does it really matter who bought it?

you're absolutely right, it dosnt matter where its disappeared to, but it attracts a lot of sneering conjecture, there are a lot of people who genuinely dont like the record and the repetitive talk of its celubrious history. why should it be hard to swallow that it sold for such a sum of money?, somebody had the financial clout to obtain it and i wouldnt doubt for one minute, john's ability to sell the product...lets face facts here,... even john's eyes must widen at the prices some of the records he's auctioning, are realising and just from a personal point of view ive listened to countless soundfiles of what i would consider utter dross and others AND they are few and far between, that are out & out winners ( most recently, judy hughes & vivian jones )

on an OVO night its highly unlikely to find its way into an oldies set.

2 copies and it seems that the majority of people (me included) don't know who has one of them................

Was that what I wrote...

Oh no I didn't, what are you on about?

RIGHT THEN, YOU BORED PEOPLE....I'LL EITHER SEE YOU ALL AT THE STATION HOTEL, DUDLEY FOR PAT LEWIS OR.....YOU'LL ALL BE TRYING DESPERATLEY TO AVOID ME AT LIFELINE!!

HOW COME COLIN HAS MANAGED TO SNEAK IN HERE AS WELL?

Was that what I wrote...

Oh no I didn't, what are you on about?

just responding to this part of your comment "would it find its way into an oldies set now"

what I mean is if everybody played by the rules its very unlikely you'd hear it in an oldies spot as only 2 people can play it.

but in reality up and down the coutry loads of people will be playing it in oldies spots off other formats.

OH, AND KEN ALSO HAS ONE, IF NOT THE ONLY GENUINE STUDIO ACETATE CUT BY FRANK,...SO, TECHNICALLY HE HAS A RIGHT TO PLAY THE RECORD AS WELL.......BUT HE'S RETIRED, A HAPPY MAN

HOW COME COLIN HAS MANAGED TO SNEAK IN HERE AS WELL?

that was a joke. Didn't the smiley face give the game away.

because of a 5 page thread running about colin playing CDs being one of the most actoive threads on here the last few days.

Edited February 25, 201213 yr by dylan

If that's true there's only a couple of lads who it could be...........unfortunately I'm not one of them

Cheers

Martyn

Blimey.... It's a funny old world innit....I may have a slightly weird tale about this then involving jumping into a taxi with a stranger, pissed after my work christmas do......

that was a joke. Didn't the smiley face give the game away.

because of a 5 page thread running about colin playing CDs being one of the most actoive threads on here the last few days.

no, you're right bro, its a joke alright when it runs into......how many pages?

Blimey.... It's a funny old world innit....I may have a slightly weird tale about this then involving jumping into a taxi with a stranger, pissed after my work christmas do......

Steve

Come along then pray tell................

Cheers

Martyn

mike, do you want to merge the kenny & colin threads into an ongoing forum?

right, im going to hold my hand up and say im guilty of playing frank as well, 2010 at the tower from the 45th anniversary motown box set whilst promoting tim's book....is that reasonable excuse yer honour?

no, you're right bro, its a joke alright when it runs into......how many pages?

were on the same wavelength now

Steve

Come along then pray tell................

Cheers

Martyn

It was a mad one really....

We were on our works christmas night out on Prinny Ave and after it me and one of my mates from work needed a taxi back to our posh western suburbs.After freezing the dangly bits off for about an hour (or so it seemed), a taxi comes along and we jumped in one side and another coupla kids jump in the other. Mexican stand off time. Anyway, we were not backing down, and neither obviously were they so we compromised on a share and hoped for the best.

The taxi driver had a northern soul cd on, like they do... So we got yarning about this and that and suddenly one of the lads, who was maybe 20ish?? pipes up with "do you know that northern soul record by Frank Wilson"?...... And clever shit me replies with some patronising remark or other (no, I know, not at all like me.... ) . And then he says "you know its the most expensive record in the world and........ (now here's the punchline)...... My Dad owns it!!!"

So of course I call him a silly sod etc, like you would, and we end up having a slightly heated debate..... because obviously i know best because I am so clever and that, and obviously his dad has a uk copy or a pressing or sumat da-de-da-de-da..... DOH!!!

Egg. Face. Me. Possibly.

I'm not gonna spill the name. If he wants to remain anonymous that's fine with me. And of course, the kid in the taxi might have been spinning a yarn. But if he was it was a cracking one to spin....

(And I think it was his dad. I was major-league kajagoogooed - it might have been his uncle...)

It was a mad one really....

We were on our works christmas night out on Prinny Ave and after it me and one of my mates from work needed a taxi back to our posh western suburbs.After freezing the dangly bits off for about an hour (or so it seemed), a taxi comes along and we jumped in one side and another coupla kids jump in the other. Mexican stand off time. Anyway, we were not backing down, and neither obviously were they so we compromised on a share and hoped for the best.

The taxi driver had a northern soul cd on, like they do... So we got yarning about this and that and suddenly one of the lads, who was maybe 20ish?? pipes up with "do you know that northern soul record by Frank Wilson"?...... And clever shit me replies with some patronising remark or other (no, I know, not at all like me.... ) . And then he says "you know its the most expensive record in the world and........ (now here's the punchline)...... My Dad owns it!!!"

So of course I call him a silly sod etc, like you would, and we end up having a slightly heated debate..... because obviously i know best because I am so clever and that, and obviously his dad has a uk copy or a pressing or sumat da-de-da-de-da..... DOH!!!

Egg. Face. Me. Possibly.

I'm not gonna spill the name. If he wants to remain anonymous that's fine with me. And of course, the kid in the taxi might have been spinning a yarn. But if he was it was a cracking one to spin....

(And I think it was his dad. I was major-league kajagoogooed - it might have been his uncle...)

who's spinning a yarn?

on an OVO night its highly unlikely to find its way into an oldies set.

2 copies and it seems that the majority of people (me included) don't know who has one of them................

Tim Brown has the other

its in hull folks

John Prescott ?

I'll get me coat !

who's spinning a yarn?

Honest, that story is totally true. Well, within the bounds of my inebriated recollection anyway.....

And then we had a dust up about who was gonna pay for the taxi which ended with me and the taxi driver getting all macho and the young lad giving us some grief and chucking some money at us....

You couldnt make it up

word

First time I heard it it was ''GOT TO GET A COPY'', blew me away.

These days.....the cd sits its on sits in its box, not played for at least 2 years but originally it nearly wore the CDplayer out, but we move on.

The way I look at it, you WANT something BADLY enough you pay over the odds for it, and I'll bet EVERYONE on here has been there.

The price paid is not an issue, ITS LIKE STAMP COLLECTING, people pay shed loadsa dosh for aq bit of paper with a picture on one side and glue on the other, they stick in an album and then have orgasms over it, and yes, I have been known to have orgasms over bits of vinyl in my collection .

The bottom line is that WHO EVER bought the record PAID what it was worth to them !!!.

First time I heard it it was ''GOT TO GET A COPY'', blew me away.

These days.....the cd sits its on sits in its box, not played for at least 2 years but originally it nearly wore the CDplayer out, but we move on.

The way I look at it, you WANT something BADLY enough you pay over the odds for it, and I'll bet EVERYONE on here has been there.

and yes, I have been known to have orgasms over bits of vinyl in my collection .

The bottom line is that WHO EVER bought the record PAID what it was worth to them !!!.

Remind me never to buy any off you !

LoL

Edited February 25, 201213 yr by allnightandy

Remind me never to buy any off you !

LoL

I still get good gear

Remind me never to buy any off you !

LoL

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!

Big mate of Kenny`s mentioned that Steve Davis (snooker) was "in the frame"

:lol: i like it

Steve Davis

Definitely , heard this from a good Scottish gentlemen friend of mine ( you know who you are ) who is not really bothered who bought it anyway .

So methinks they must be some truth in this , especially that its also being mentioned on ere.

Martyn

Steve Davis Does NOT own this - sorry sir, Ive asked him!

In fifty years when most are gone to the great record box in the sky, I hope it sits in a Northern Soul Museum somehwere, it deserves it's place in Music history (despite all the naysaying groans I can now hear!). If it wasn't for a thievin Simon Soussan it might never have got played until Martin Koppel was offered the second copy and even then it may have ignored.

There are few records that have polarised opinion as much as this one on the NS scene, but, I still love the record.

Whoever owns KB's copy now, I don't care, just glad someone does.

On a closing note, I hate the Sex Pistols "god save the queen" but the A&M uk release is rare as hell and deserves a place in music history ( like so many rare records by other artists), so that being the case so,does Frank Wilson.

It's Elvis Presley.He owns it. He lives in Hull and he owns the Frank Wilson that Kenny sold. He plays it when he DJs at house parties he throws for Marilyn, Michael Jackson, JFK etc etc. Of course, the parties are OVO, so Colin Curtis isn't invited.

......anybody got a sound clip......................

In fifty years when most are gone to the great record box in the sky, I hope it sits in a Northern Soul Museum somehwere, it deserves it's place in Music history (despite all the naysaying groans I can now hear!). If it wasn't for a thievin Simon Soussan it might never have got played until Martin Koppel was offered the second copy and even then it may have ignored.

There are few records that have polarised opinion as much as this one on the NS scene, but, I still love the record.

Whoever owns KB's copy now, I don't care, just glad someone does.

On a closing note, I hate the Sex Pistols "god save the queen" but the A&M uk release is rare as hell and deserves a place in music history ( like so many rare records by other artists), so that being the case so,does Frank Wilson.

there are 3sex pistols versions ( acetates etc ) in this months record collector top ten prices on ebay and all over £10,000,

most of the rest are beatles lp's

there are 3sex pistols versions ( acetates etc ) in this months record collector top ten prices on ebay and all over £10,000,

most of the rest are beatles lp's

This version £12.675

https://www.popsike.c.../4838165513.jpg

this one £12600

https://www.popsike.c...80655369299.jpg

This £10766

Edited February 26, 201213 yr by allnightandy

Sold my 'God Save The Queen' on A&M for £250 in a darker period of my life..... oh well!

And on another bright note, I live in Hull, but it wasn't me who bought KB's Frank Wilson either!