Funky Soul, Funk edged Soul...however you wish to describe it. Good or bad?

Does it have a place at venues or is a lot of it a case of the Emperors New Clothes.

Never thought I'd ever say this ..... but the Willie West track above MIGHT even top Curtis M's original.

WW's take on the song is so different it almost becomes another song altogether.

Just LOVE LOVE LOVE the flute in it & his voice is so gritty ....

.... a real gem that I'd love to be played out a whole lot more (beats 99% of Wigan Stompers into the ground).

Finally ..a man who gets it

It is a great version indeed and I bet Curtis would have loved it too .

P.s

It's Willie Wright Roburt

Always a delight to see that I'm not alone in appreciating this.

One more time: 'Northern Soul' is not a musical genre - it's a youth cult approaching retirement age. It's a movement that began when people shared a broad common interest in certain styles of music. Now it's mainly full of ageing and cantankerous grumblies who either go on about how "it's not like the old days" or bemoan anything that's different or left of field of anything outside of their increasingly narrow and glaucomic vision.

Not a single artist, group or label owner in the 60s ever recorded a song and said "let's do it in the Northern Soul style!"

Why this desperate need to pigeon-hol ctegorise - it's beyond me. Learn to see the bigger musical picture.

There's plenty of us who have a broad mind and don't care for pigeon holing different styles but the hard facts are that on this scene it is pigeon holed and there are several genres including northern soul. It not have been a genre of music BITD when recorded but the fact is it is now, it is referred to, Northern Soul, marketed as Northern Soul, promoted as Northern Soul, you can't get away from Northern Soul. Me I prefer the term rare soul, a term we used in the 80's.

We all use these terms whether we like them or not when it suits.

Unfortunately those of us who see the bigger musical picture are in a minority, especially when it comes to venues and what we care to hear when out and about.

104 posts in, I'm liking Benji's thus far.

Funk is funk, soul is soul. Funky soul isn't soul.

I remember Keb saying at the Putney Soul Party in 88' when discussing the merits of Bobby Valentin over Stanley Mitchell. Something about "that latin shite". Pure Soul was the order of the day.

Unfortunately those of us who see the bigger musical picture are in a minority, especially when it comes to venues and what we care to hear when out and about.

as a younger collector/dj this is one of the things i find the most frustrating about the whole "scene"

Anything played at a Northern Soul Allnighter that the dancers popularise is Northern Soul. Everything has its place if it has the X factor, including the better end of Funk edged soul....

Russ

Listen to them drums....'kin awesome stomper of the highest order & I want one pse.

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Russ - I guess all this is down to how people perceive it - this one I would have just classed as straight Northern Soul.

Russ - I guess all this is down to how people perceive it - this one I would have just classed as straight Northern Soul.

It is, but its also funky....thats the point !

Russ

Could do with the Zodiacs either original label BTW. And the Earl English.

Thx

Russ

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Current floor packin banger !

You lot getting the message...uptempo, exciting, thumping soul music for the dance floor, anyone remember that !!!

Russ

And droppin it down a little, but every much as awesome....my god, if you dont like or cant dance to this your feckin dead, pretty much like the NS Scene really.......

Maybe I'm just old school and want to hear about one of us hard done blokes getting fooked about by our Mrs. with a nice catchy beat

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I'd consider selling a kidney for the Harvey Scales.....its stunningly brilliant, makes me wanna weep its that good, now anyone selling & needs a kidney, Im ya man !!!

Maybe I'm just old school and want to hear about one of us hard done blokes getting fooked about by our Mrs. with a nice catchy beat

Maybe your deaf

Russ

Then of course we enter the 21st Century.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_e3rFeY_hg

Maybe I'm just old school and want to hear about one of us hard done blokes getting fooked about by our Mrs. with a nice catchy beat

....with the repo man on his way.

Dont know about you lot, but Im pretty pissed that Im sat at the laptop instead of out dancin, mind you I have an excuse Im sat in feckin Baghdad other wise I would be out off me tits, doin ma thing to this non NS funky shite...

Russ

Pure class.......oh, but its funky !!!

And Ive tried not to get too obscure, all of the above have a place on a NS dance floor near you IMHO all soulful, all danceable....

Anyone seen the light yet !!!

Russ

Listen to them drums....'kin awesome stomper of the highest order & I want one pse.

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A weak example, lp track, sold it about 2 years ago.

A weak example, lp track, sold it about 2 years ago.

Your joking right, its genius, her voice is bloody amazing......... had a 45 release too BTW.

Russ

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You lot getting the message...uptempo, exciting, thumping soul music for the dance floor, anyone remember that !!!

Russ

Yeah but if I'd heard that many in one hour / night it would be overkill

As per usual........we all know who plays it........we all know who kills it.........but hey....lets keep saying they're top people (which mostly they are) and we love their stuff........which on the night is a universal "no we don,t".........soul source never changes in this respect....we wanna moan,but we just can,t say what we're moaning about and who's causing it (although we know)

Kinell Tezza ..confused ,perplexed ..please don't change your avatar anytime soon ,I'm having enough probs keeping up with your change of usernames let alone your posts ??

" I used to be indecisive but I'm not so sure now "

And Ive tried not to get too obscure, all of the above have a place on a NS dance floor near you IMHO all soulful, all danceable....

Anyone seen the light yet !!!

Russ

Oh Russ, bless you ... but no

A bit obvious this one...is this too much..?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT_f27enZH4

some of it is fabulous, some of it is awful.

You need DJs that can actually sort the wheat from the chaff. Sadly some of them can't.

And that's why the "top boys" are just that.

I would recommend listening to Soul Sam's current set , pushes the boundaries without losing the floor, out there and back again!

Oh Russ, bless you ... but no

With you on this one Joan

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

A bit obvious this one...is this too much..?

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It's been in my playbox for ages, played it the odd time.

Your joking right, its genius, her voice is bloody amazing......... had a 45 release too BTW.

Russ

In the desert a thirsty man would drink camel piss!

It's been in my playbox for ages, played it the odd time.

Yes i know Chalky,been around a while this one.Wondered if it is funk.

Back to Harvey Averne for a mo,is it Latin because he's a known Latin artist.Or because the beat is Latin? I can't hear a deal of L in it myself.......

With you on this one Joan

Your user name says it all really :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Russ

Well the youngsters seem to like this sort of stuff Russ, that should tell you a thing or two

love that Endeavors track, never far from my play out box. man I wish that sharon jones new shoes was on 45, i weep.

Your user name says it all really :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Russ

Thats to the missus Russ, I like across the board but as one man once said YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS!!!!!!!!

In the desert a thirsty man would drink camel piss!

Meaning ???...if its a debate, lets at least debate, I know you have an open mind, so lets see some examples that arnt camels piss...or is it just gonna turn into another sh*t slinging contest again....

Russ

love that Endeavors track, never far from my play out box. man I wish that sharon jones new shoes was on 45, i weep.

It is I think.......

Russ

Finally ..a man who gets it

It is a great version indeed and I bet Curtis would have loved it too .

P.s

It's Willie Wright Roburt

Now I'm close to closing my account. Willie Wright better than the OG curtis? I hate the entire LP, sounds like a failed richie havens copy.

Well the youngsters seem to like this sort of stuff Russ, that should tell you a thing or two

Its a sad state of affairs mate....I would rather listen to this kind of exciting, soulful dance music than some of the pisch we get fobbed off with in the name of NS....when did some cut thier ears off & close thier minds, its so sad...I do appreciate other peoples opinions, but honestly some would call black white, just to prove a point, even if they loved some of the things posted, they would still deny it, cos they couldnt possible say they had been proved wrong....most aint got a clue anyway Tim....

Best Russ

Now I'm close to closing my account. Willie Wright better than the OG curtis? I hate the entire LP, sounds like a failed richie havens copy.

Don't do it Bob ..our country needs you ..I'll take it back ..lol

Don't do it Bob ..our country needs you ..I'll take it back ..lol

I have to spend more time preparing for the revolution

And that's why the "top boys" are just that.

I would recommend listening to Soul Sam's current set , pushes the boundaries without losing the floor, out there and back again!

As much as I love the man ..you must be talking about Sam in a big room playing it safe ,cos he has done his fair share of floor clearing in his time !

Im off to bed....Ill just leave ya with a little more funky shite......

i love this one,funk,soul,funky soul ? im not really sure but i think its fantastic,btw,that gloria barnes is one of the best tunes i ever heard,remember jordi ripolles playing it at usos,blew me away,lp but released on single too ? (maple ?) i actually think a lot of these funky tunes are extremely soulful in the vocals but thats just my opinion

jason

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As much as I love the man ..you must be talking about Sam in a big room playing it safe ,cos he has done his fair share of floor clearing in his time !

Being prepared to risk losing the floor with a new spin, was, is & always should be part of it, I mean you dont wanna clear the floor, but some stuff now considered classics cleared floors initially...

Russ

i love this one,funk,soul,funky soul ? im not really sure but i think its fantastic,btw,that gloria barnes is one of the best tunes i ever heard,remember jordi ripolles playing it at usos,blew me away,lp but released on single too ? (maple ?) i actually think a lot of these funky tunes are extremely soulful in the vocals but thats just my opinion

jason

Maple mate

Russ

As much as I love the man ..you must be talking about Sam in a big room playing it safe ,cos he has done his fair share of floor clearing in his time !

I don't think it's a case of clearing a floor, As I've been the only person dancing to Sam's set at one time, but people around listening in ore at tracks they have never come across before, sometimes it's hard to dance to something your hearing for the first time.