Citizen P Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Without waving the red rag and getting the oldies versus newies going again, just wondering if you'd heard anything lately that struck you as the essence of NORTHERN. You know with same buzz as say,Bob Relf, Frankie Beverley, Van Dykes,Lou Pride,Tomangoes etc etc or have all the truly great tunes already been played??? Cry Havoc. Tony Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest vinylvixen Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Without waving the red rag and getting the oldies versus newies going again, just wondering if you'd heard anything lately that struck you as the essence of NORTHERN. You know with same buzz as say,Bob Relf, Frankie Beverley, Van Dykes,Lou Pride,Tomangoes etc etc or have all the truly great tunes already been played??? Cry Havoc. Tony Tony, I'm just polishing my crystal ball to see into the future of Northern Soul................the crystal ball says 'you'll have to wait and see'.....I'm hoping that there'll be warehouses bursting at the seams with undiscovered monsters akin to the Salvadors and Yvonne Baker. I'm an eternal optimist As for sounds around at the moment that measure up to your list of Premier League Northern Oldies....tough one - not really if you're looking for stompers but Sweet William 'Maybe Baby' is pretty catchy and Pat and the Blenders isn't half bad but apart from that.......... Hope that helps. JoBall2.bmp Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest in town Mikey Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Not just because it is rare, but I think Margaret Little is a top ten all time tune. And sitting Pretty in my box is Valerie Lamar - Shame. Just needs a few guys playing it. Apparently Dave Thorley did at the Stafford niter in Stoke, but he chose to wait for me to go to the loo before he did the ratbag. If it got plays today I'm sure it would go to the top of many peoples wants list. As Mr One Trout might say A choonerooonie Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
steve z Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Without waving the red rag and getting the oldies versus newies going again, just wondering if you'd heard anything lately that struck you as the essence of NORTHERN. You know with same buzz as say,Bob Relf, Frankie Beverley, Van Dykes,Lou Pride,Tomangoes etc etc or have all the truly great tunes already been played??? Cry Havoc. Tony Tony not gonna play ANY tunes for you again....STEVIE Z Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kevin Cox Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 (edited) My neighbours really rate this one least they bang on the wall in time every time i come home from the pub and blast it out at 2am https://arcticsoul.net/soulspinner/dynamiks.wma Edited February 10, 2006 by Kevin Cox Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 My neighbours really rate this one least they bang on the wall in time every time i come home from the pub and blast it out at 2am https://arcticsoul.net/soulspinner/dynamiks.wma Nice toone,though if i was them,i would be banging on the wall,if you only played one minute of this nice toone........... half a record is i wind up.......... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dayo Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Without waving the red rag and getting the oldies versus newies going again, just wondering if you'd heard anything lately that struck you as the essence of NORTHERN. You know with same buzz as say,Bob Relf, Frankie Beverley, Van Dykes,Lou Pride,Tomangoes etc etc or have all the truly great tunes already been played??? Cry Havoc. Tony We live in hope. Half the reason I stay connected to this scene is because of a yearning to here something new - anything - that you might call the essence of classic NS. If there is another Tomagoes, or Duke Browner, or Exus Trek out there, then I hope whoever is sitting on it gets it out there sharpish. Mello Souls? Pah! Col Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Russ Vickers Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 We live in hope. Half the reason I stay connected to this scene is because of a yearning to here something new - anything - that you might call the essence of classic NS. If there is another Tomagoes, or Duke Browner, or Exus Trek out there, then I hope whoever is sitting on it gets it out there sharpish. Mello Souls? Pah! Col I think that the sounds played today & lets say post Wigan onwards are just as good as any played 'back in the day'. I do think that some times some of these sounds have suffered slightly from not being broken by 'Richard Searling at Wigan tho'. People heard these toons in venues packed with hundreds if not thousands of people & the atmosphere was electric, most were off thier tits & couldnt keep still anyway, a record was ;make or break' within a few plays. Dont forget that as well as the stone cold classics there were some real turkey;s played too. Records like the Mello Souls would have been massive at Wigan or any were else for that matter, some times the venue helps tho. Russ Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Trevski Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 (edited) My neighbours really rate this one least they bang on the wall in time every time i come home from the pub and blast it out at 2am Nice one Looking on JM's site, under the Lemco label, there is a slightly different version by the Utmost. Sounds like the same vocalist, but a bit of girly chorus going on. anybody got any info on this and also ££ and availability? The great Rob Marriott strikes again! Ahead of his time, or what? Edited February 10, 2006 by Trevski Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 just discovered Lee Lamont-Happy Days-Backbeat. Not sure if this is an oldie, but excellent track!!!!!!!!!!!!! Carl Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garethx Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 I agree wholeheartedly with Russ. The records mentioned previously in the thread as the gold standard were almost all discovered before Wigan even opened in 1973! Are the posters saying that nothing of value has been unearthed for over thirty years? That is plainly not the case. The sets at the Lifeline weekender by Butch, Mick H, Sam, Arthur Fenn, Christian B, Andy Whitmore, Cliff Steele, Dean Anderson and others all illustrated that there is plenty more mileage in the rare soul scene. A few of Butch's cover-ups would have been massive records at any venue, at any time in the scene's history: The Mighty Lovers, Martha Jean Love and the Just Brothers (admittedly this has been known for over twenty years) to name but three. The depth of quality lesser-knowns, shrewd re-activations, downright one-offs and proven long-term rarities played by all these guys is pretty staggering. Every year I hear at least ten 'new' records that blow me away. They might not all have the same type of sound as Bob Relf or the Tomangoes, but they live with them pretty easily as quality pieces of soul music. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dayo Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 I agree wholeheartedly with Russ. The records mentioned previously in the thread as the gold standard were almost all discovered before Wigan even opened in 1973! Are the posters saying that nothing of value has been unearthed for over thirty years? That is plainly not the case. The sets at the Lifeline weekender by Butch, Mick H, Sam, Arthur Fenn, Christian B, Andy Whitmore, Cliff Steele, Dean Anderson and others all illustrated that there is plenty more mileage in the rare soul scene. A few of Butch's cover-ups would have been massive records at any venue, at any time in the scene's history: The Mighty Lovers, Martha Jean Love and the Just Brothers (admittedly this has been known for over twenty years) to name but three. The depth of quality lesser-knowns, shrewd re-activations, downright one-offs and proven long-term rarities played by all these guys is pretty staggering. Every year I hear at least ten 'new' records that blow me away. They might not all have the same type of sound as Bob Relf or the Tomangoes, but they live with them pretty easily as quality pieces of soul music. Good points, all well made. I'm absolutely certain that there have been some stunning soul records discovered over the last twenty odd years. It's the quantity and quality of the Northern element that may be an issue, as defined by records like Bob Relf, Linda Jones, Morris Chestnut etc. (And by the way, no-one is disputing the amount of tripe amongst the goodies - at Wigan, in particular). Mello Souls is often held up as the champion of more recent discoveries, but would it have been a big record at the Torch? I don't think so. A marginal spin at best. And yes, ok, I know, one of the biggest records at the Torch was The Shakers. Love on a mountain top was hardly gritty, heart felt soul either. I think it's a fascinating debate this one, and I'm sure it'll go on and on. Best wishes Colin (Still waiting and praying to be convinced) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
ockers Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 the chanters every night uk cbs 1966 do you mean this kind of thing........... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Nice one Looking on JM's site, under the Lemco label, there is a slightly different version by the Utmost. Sounds like the same vocalist, but a bit of girly chorus going on. anybody got any info on this and also ££ and availability? The great Rob Marriott strikes again! Ahead of his time, or what? Utmost you should be able to get for about £50 if you look around, have seen it for this in recent times too, bit more as well Explosive Dynamiks will cost you a lot more Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Billy Freemantle Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Mello Souls is often held up as the champion of more recent discoveries, but would it have been a big record at the Torch? I don't think so. A marginal spin at best. This would have been a massive record at anytime. The alarm intro alone would have had people scurrying for the dance floor.The energy in this sound is relentless. Even some of the finest Northern dancers have bits that allow a bit of respite. This is just well calculated mayhem from the first note till the last. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 This would have been a massive record at anytime. The alarm intro alone would have had people scurrying for the dance floor.The energy in this sound is relentless. Even some of the finest Northern dancers have bits that allow a bit of respite. This is just well calculated mayhem from the first note till the last. Well said Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 JJ Jackson cover up of Butch's, more recently from Andy Dyson, is IMO as good a Northern Soul record as it gets. Butch had it some years and took some getting going but this will be remembered as a Northern Soul classic IMHO Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Netspeaky Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 (edited) JJ Jackson cover up of Butch's, more recently from Andy Dyson, is IMO as good a Northern Soul record as it gets. Butch had it some years and took some getting going but this will be remembered as a Northern Soul classic IMHO Edited February 10, 2006 by Netspeaky Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Netspeaky Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Lots of our classics never made it at Wigan, they couldn't compete with the Sharonnettes etc., they have aquired classic status over the years like a good wine. Lots of tradation northern still being unearthed by the way, either overlooked at the time or recently found. Remeber if it don't get spins out then the masses never get the chance to hear them, so they remain know just to the select few and rumour. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Edwin S Wales Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Nice one Looking on JM's site, under the Lemco label, there is a slightly different version by the Utmost. Sounds like the same vocalist, but a bit of girly chorus going on. anybody got any info on this and also ££ and availability? The great Rob Marriott strikes again! Ahead of his time, or what? I think Rob Marriot used to play this c/u as the Vibrations...I'll have one as well please Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Johnny One Trout Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Records like the Mello Souls would have been massive at Wigan or any were else for that matter, some times the venue helps tho. Russ Do you know what as much as I love this record, I really don't think it would have been big at Wigan at all. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulsmith Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 JJ Jackson cover up of Butch's, more recently from Andy Dyson, is IMO as good a Northern Soul record as it gets. Butch had it some years and took some getting going but this will be remembered as a Northern Soul classic IMHO Really? I have that on a week-ender freebie CD. Hasn't made any impression on me to date. Will check & persevere! Ref future, nobody knows it all - dust off them B sides! Col. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Russ Vickers Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 JJ Jackson cover up of Butch's, more recently from Andy Dyson, is IMO as good a Northern Soul record as it gets. Butch had it some years and took some getting going but this will be remembered as a Northern Soul classic IMHO Totally agree . Russ Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 (edited) Really? I have that on a week-ender freebie CD. Hasn't made any impression on me to date. Will check & persevere! Ref future, nobody knows it all - dust off them B sides! Col. Really..same record? Only handful of copies most in the hands of dj's and can't think of one who would put it on a cd? Edited February 12, 2006 by chalky Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Trevski Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 Andy D's kae Williams "Our love is dying" As good as they come! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest rachel Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 Really..same record? Only handful of copies most in the hands of dj's and can't think of one who would put it on a cd? It's on one of the Dome CDs from a few months ago. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dayo Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Realise that a lot of the records mentioned here are hard ones, but just wondered if anyone had any soundfiles to post; low quality, just half the disc, whatever. Would love to get a flavour of some of these... Thanks Colin Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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