an earlier Thread got me going on this one....Someone saying every scene has it's uniform !!!! now what is the Uniform of Northern Soulies ???? I know people think Bowling Shirts & Wide Spencer style trousers, but this is not something that EVERYONE wears, I am talking about the majority of Male Soulies....Now I think you see more Blokes wearing Button Down Collar Shirts than anything else @ Northern Do's....but it is still not a Northern Soul Uniform.....or is it ???? or what is ????

Jon Buck

Ben Sherman's Story....

www.absolutewrite.com/novels/ben_sherman.htm

Edited March 16, 200619 yr by jonbuck

an earlier Thread got me going on this one....Someone saying every scene has it's uniform !!!! now what is the Uniform of Northern Soulies ???? I know people think Bowling Shirts & Wide Spencer style trousers, but this is not something that EVERYONE wears, I am talking about the majority of Male Soulies....Now I think you see more Blokes wearing Button Down Collar Shirts than anything else @ Northern Do's....but it is still not a Northern Soul Uniform.....or is it ???? or what is ????

Jon Buck

Ben Sherman's Story....

www.absolutewrite.com/novels/ben_sherman.htm

I wonder how many other people have names that mean strike a areally inappropriate chord in lots of people?

https://www.william-powell.co.uk/

All depends on your age I would say,started on the club soul scene as it was then aound 1970,now the clothes I wore in those days that I still wear sometimes on the scene are Ben Sherman shirts,Harrington jackets levi/wrangler jeans/ jackets,so there you have it,bring on the sarcasm,ridicule etc!

All depends on your age I would say,started on the club soul scene as it was then aound 1970,now the clothes I wore in those days that I still wear sometimes on the scene are Ben Sherman shirts,Harrington jackets levi/wrangler jeans/ jackets,so there you have it,bring on the sarcasm,ridicule etc!

This style of clothing ( for those of us old enough to remember ) is of course the Mod Look from the mid sixties. Ben sherman shirts were a copy of "Brooks brothers" shirts but with a tailored or waisted look. Proper or vintage denim Jeans & jackets, are still available on the Internet. Nowadays most people dont care about "Cone 501 or 818 Jelt" denim, but the ones whoe still persue such clothes & styles pay top prices to secure the desired items. So its not just rare sixties sounds some of us are after. The clothes a styles are part of our heritage as well.

Regards Ritchie.

All depends on your age I would say,started on the club soul scene as it was then aound 1970,now the clothes I wore in those days that I still wear sometimes on the scene are Ben Sherman shirts,Harrington jackets levi/wrangler jeans/ jackets,so there you have it,bring on the sarcasm,ridicule etc!

J Simons in Covent Garden one of the Last Remaining Ivy Style shops in London....

https://j.simons.mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/index.jhtml

No Sarcasm here....You've either got style or you havn't....

Jon Buck

All depends on your age I would say,started on the club soul scene as it was then aound 1970,now the clothes I wore in those days that I still wear sometimes on the scene are Ben Sherman shirts,Harrington jackets levi/wrangler jeans/ jackets,so there you have it,bring on the sarcasm,ridicule etc!

I wear a crombie in winter when i,m out and about at venue,s, Wear bowling shirts, Ben Shermans etc etc.

Steve

The things about Ben Shermans, Crombi overcoats, Como shoes etc is that they were/are high quality clobber really wasted on the little snot -noses that we were. I'm afraid my early days as a little mod really spoiled me and now when I'm buying clothes I am very fussy and look for the quality and finish that the brands that we wore had. Good buys, seeing as they last for virtually ever, if you can't get your hands on a Crombi or a Ben Sherman are Pierre Cardin Paris ( not that International pressing grade rubbish mind!) or Ted Lapidus.On the shoes front, Church or Barkers do some nice English Brogue or Oxford 100% leather shoes. For slip-ons like in Jon Buck's avatar youd' be better off getting a nice Italian pair made by a company like Mario Doria.I think it's time someone moved this thread.

an earlier Thread got me going on this one....Someone saying every scene has it's uniform !!!! now what is the Uniform of Northern Soulies ????

https://www.soul-source.co.uk/index.p...wtopic=13845&hl=

The things about Ben Shermans, Crombi overcoats, Como shoes etc is that they were/are high quality clobber really wasted on the little snot -noses that we were. I'm afraid my early days as a little mod really spoiled me and now when I'm buying clothes I am very fussy and look for the quality and finish that the brands that we wore had. Good buys, seeing as they last for virtually ever, if you can't get your hands on a Crombi or a Ben Sherman are Pierre Cardin Paris ( not that International pressing grade rubbish mind!) or Ted Lapidus.On the shoes front, Church or Barkers do some nice English Brogue or Oxford 100% leather shoes. For slip-ons like in Jon Buck's avatar youd' be better off getting a nice Italian pair made by a company like Mario Doria.I think it's time someone moved this thread.

Always though Ben Shermans were pretty shocking quality, preferred Brutus Trimfit in any event. TM Lewin do some nice button downs, some of them with neat details the button in the back of the neck, that you don't see too often, and everything is always at a discount (think my last lot were 4 for a £100).

But even better are some of the Italian online shirtmakers, choose your own cloth and style etc. I think the best I've had were from Camisserio di Como, but their website doesn't work half the time.

I thought Ben Sherman were a take on Continental/John Stephens shirts, not Brooks Brothers, which are much wider in the body and a different construction altogether and cut square. You can still buy them, or could last time I was in New York, and there is a Brooks Brothers in the City of London now. Very dull shop.

Current northern soul uniform....

Short sleeve shirt

Trousers

Leather soled shoes.... imperative

T-shirts to change into if you dance

Can't think of much else

I still wear brutus shirts( but I prefer jon wood shirts nice big collar very hard to find these days though) levi jeans and frank wright loafers

I was in Brooks Brothers only yesterday...

The things about Ben Shermans, Crombi overcoats, Como shoes etc is that they were/are high quality clobber really wasted on the little snot -noses that we were. I'm afraid my early days as a little mod really spoiled me and now when I'm buying clothes I am very fussy and look for the quality and finish that the brands that we wore had. Good buys, seeing as they last for virtually ever, if you can't get your hands on a Crombi or a Ben Sherman are Pierre Cardin Paris ( not that International pressing grade rubbish mind!) or Ted Lapidus.On the shoes front, Church or Barkers do some nice English Brogue or Oxford 100% leather shoes. For slip-ons like in Jon Buck's avatar youd' be better off getting a nice Italian pair made by a company like Mario Doria.I think it's time someone moved this thread.

The "slip ons" on John's avatar are made by Cole Hann & available on the internet. Cole Hann are the Holy Grail manufacturers of Quality American Loafers.

Regards Ritchie.

Why does there have to be a uniform

Surley if people want to look stupid wearing 70's 'northern fasion' then more for them.

Nerver worn leather shoes and i never will.

Were what you would wear down the pub or to a party and such

So where do Nige Shaws extra loud Hawaiian print beach shirts fit into all this then...

i still wear button downs nearly all the time but at my start in the early 70's Fred Perry polo shirts/tennis shirts were worn under a nice harrington or barathea blazer, and i alway wore a fred perry at all nighters

i used to have some Jaytex button down shirts in the 70's anyone remember these.

Most of my button downs for a while were Gant or Tommy Hilfigger but both of these are not as good quality as they used to be, in parts of europe you can still get Arrow shirts which i believe were worn by the early mods. a lot of people wear John Smedley tops now.

I find i now gravitate towards Nigel Hall clothing when out shoppingas most of the modern stuff is attrocious, as for shoes i have Bass Bally, Loakes, and the usual casual only for normal knocking about favourite casual comfy shoes at the moment Geox, always leather souled shoes for going out, and some of the British hand made brouges are very nice indeed, Churches nice but pricy same for Barkers,

jeans i have been buying Levis when i go to america and like the Low rise straight 529 which are amazing value in america most i have paid is $30 for a pair,

i also like a nice pair of chonos Banana republic had some nice ones a couple of years ago

I also bought some Modern Amusment polo shirts last time in america which are now on sale in selfridges,

so i would say if there is a uniform it is probably a nice button down jeans or trousers not bags loafers or brouges, a harrington or similar, or a nice 3 button suit,

mark

We tend to get our shirts made, there is a good tailor in Leeds we have been going to for years now ('Kristoph's' Tel:0113 2304587 - He is actually called George) He has been making the Mod / 60's style stuff for many years, he is really good for suits too. Shirts start at £35.00 for something in a basic colour/material (his material) Many other Tailors charge over three times as much for an identical shirt making & i have seen their products and can confirm they are no better despite the jump in price, in fact many of the London Mods (and from other cities)make the short trip from Leeds town centre to Kristoph's when they are up here for one or two items making, anyway - recommended!

Ste.

I was in Brooks Brothers only yesterday...

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We tend to get our shirts made, there is a good tailor in Leeds we have been going to for years now ('Kristoph's' Tel:0113 2304587 - He is actually called George) He has been making the Mod / 60's style stuff for many years, he is really good for suits too. Shirts start at £35.00 for something in a basic colour/material (his material) Many other Tailors charge over three times as much for an identical shirt making & i have seen their products and can confirm they are no better despite the jump in price, in fact many of the London Mods (and from other cities)make the short trip from Leeds town centre to Kristoph's when they are up here for one or two items making, anyway - recommended!

Ste.

P.S. Shirts are made to your design, not a standard list of collar / Cuff variations as with some tailors!

So where do Nige Shaws extra loud Hawaiian print beach shirts fit into all this then...

Mace he's a lost cause mate

Come on guys go back to the mid 70s and Northern Soul fashion was a major industry. You had to have a made to measure suit (spencers were a wigan thing if I remember, like wigans ovation) individually designed including pleats open, double, part open, inverted, even on the sides. Back pockets with seriously fancy flaps, some times side pockets with as much detail on the flap. Jackets with 4 or 5 pockets each side with flaps, small lapels, loads of buttons up the sleeves etc A pair of cherry shoes or those posh ones with the multi coloured panels.

We are talking serious fashion, looking good, spending a fortune,and looking original whilst showing off. We were the ACE long before 'sting' got the part in Q. Changes went from high waisters, wide bottoms, turnups, zip /button side fasteners short waiter jacket style, double / single back flaps, box style, pegs, two tone, denim, etc

You name it somebody had it. Burtons and Jacksons made a fortune.

Then it died at the end of the 70s and the 'jazz funk' nutters took over in drainpipes and mohair jumpers.

Today is all casual as you would expect, but 30 years ago it was a uniform, even the gals used to get stuff m. t. m.

There you have it. Pity I did not keep many photos, maybe some folks did and can post em up for nostalgia.

Ed

Why does there have to be a uniform

Surley if people want to look stupid wearing 70's 'northern fasion' then more for them.

Nerver worn leather shoes and i never will.

Were what you would wear down the pub or to a party and such

I'm with Baz on this. Part of the reason Northern Soul was an underground movement, is, there wasnt really a 'uniform'. Back when people wore vests and flared trousers, the UK were wearing vests and trousers. Bowling shirts etc were kept for 'best', and worn at niters. Not to the Kings Head for a darts match.

As for the popular fashions now, like Ben Sherman shirts etc, loads of people wear these too. Its not like a parka or a leather jacket, or even a mohican. Most people at soul do's wear what is comfortable to dance in. As they always have.

I often thought the profusion of checked Ben Sherman's, jeans and brogues in London had a lot to do with a comparitively high number of gay guys on the scene. As is often the case in fashion gay men lead and others follow.

Why does there have to be a uniform

Surley if people want to look stupid wearing 70's 'northern fasion' then more for them.

Nerver worn leather shoes and i never will.

Were what you would wear down the pub or to a party and such

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Baz why are you so worried about traditions? No one's telling you what to wear, just saying the sort of things worn over the years. Wish you wouldn't use words like stupid when describing peoples clothes, it's uncalled for IMO. Personal choice in clothes is just that, and in effect is beyond criticism.

Winnie:-)

Nice pair of made to measure beige or black trousers from Jacksons the tailors with 20inch bottoms, 1inch turn up, two back pockets with square or pointed 1inch flaps (two or three buttons), two ticket pockets with same design as back pockets used to cost about £5.25, button down short sleeve shirt by either jaytex, brutus or BS and a nice pair of oxblood tassled loafers or black royals. If you could afford it get a jacket to match trousers with 4 button front, two normal slanted pockets, two slanted ticket pockets all with 2inch flaps and a nice 16 to 18inch centre vent.

Loll

I was in Brooks Brothers only yesterday...

As the only female answering this at the moment , I'm into the sixties vintage jeans and Brooks Brothers female button down shirt . Also G.H. Bass loafer, slip-ons,with leather sole's highly polished.

Edited March 16, 200619 yr by asboannie

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I often thought the profusion of checked Ben Sherman's, jeans and brogues in London had a lot to do with a comparitively high number of gay guys on the scene.

I always wondered why you were on the scene as you clearly can't stand the music.

I always wondered why you were on the scene as you clearly can't stand the music.

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Would either of you girls like a spritza?

I thought Ben Sherman were a take on Continental/John Stephens shirts, not Brooks Brothers, which are much wider in the body and a different construction altogether and cut square. You can still buy them, or could last time I was in New York, and there is a Brooks Brothers in the City of London now. Very dull shop.

Some of us like dull! Seriously, I was always in awe of Brooks Brothers clothing as a young lad. I used to have a very beautiful Brooks Brothers cashmere and wool overcoat that I wore to school. Cost about £12.

When I finally went to New York it was one of the first places I went to. Couldn't believe it! It was like entering the promised land! I got a few of their button throughs that have lasted 12 years and still look like new - try that with a Sherman. Ben Sherman shirts are far worse than they were in the 70s/80s and believe me - it's some achievement as they were pretty poor then.

You used to be able to get very beautiful second-hand American clothes from Flip in London. It was also far more stylish and cheaper than buying the mod-oriented rubbish that was about in the late 70s / early 80s.

I always wondered why you were on the scene as you clearly can't stand the music.

No its because of all the wonderful friendly people you get to meet.

Now if only they could start playing a few Elvis or Buzzcocks records instead of those - I love you, I dont love you, he/she dont love me, Dance like a Peanut Duck rubbish, it would be a lot more fun, and I could wear my leather jacket and bondage trousers along.

Edited March 16, 200619 yr by in town Mikey

Some of us like dull! Seriously, I was always in awe of Brooks Brothers clothing as a young lad. I used to have a very beautiful Brooks Brothers cashmere and wool overcoat that I wore to school. Cost about £12. When I finally went to New York it was one of the first places I went to. Couldn't believe it! It was like entering the promised land! I got a few of their button throughs that have lasted 12 years and still look like new - try that with a Sherman. Ben Sherman shirts are far worse than they were in the 70s/80s and believe me - it's some achievement as they were pretty poor then.

You used to be able to get very beautiful second-hand American clothes from Flip in London. It was also far more stylish and cheaper than buying the mod-oriented rubbish that was about in the late 70s / early 80s.

At the end of the day, it's quality and not quantity you get at Brooks Brothers, and the only place I can get the type of female clothing I like. Also what you pay for last a long time.

Always though Ben Shermans were pretty shocking quality, preferred Brutus Trimfit in any event.

Which year are you you talking about Stewart? Can I be viewing the past through rose coloured spectacles? May be I am but the first Ben Sherman that I bought in about 1967 when I was 14 or 15 was certainly a step up from anything I'd ever worn before.

Edited March 16, 200619 yr by Billy Freemantle

NORTHERN UNIFORM..........................WELL WE GENERALLY WEAR HAND-ME-DOWNS AND CLOGS

CHRIS M

The "slip ons" on John's avatar are made by Cole Hann & available on the internet. Cole Hann are the Holy Grail manufacturers of Quality American Loafers.Regards Ritchie.

Not Quite you were nearly there....The Fringe & Buckle Loafers Are made by FLORSHEIM the style is called Vaughn....& they are $89....from....

www.shoebuy.com

Jon Buck

Edited March 16, 200619 yr by jonbuck

Which year are you you talking about Stewart? Can I be viewing the past through rose coloured spectacles? May be I am but the first Ben Sherman that I bought in about 1977 when I was 14 or 15 was certainly a step up from anything I'd ever worn before.

Would have been 1980. Maybe 81. Ben Sherman certainly got even worse after that, the stuff in the late eighties you could almost see through.

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Would either of you girls like a spritza?

Don't answer Mikey, its a trick question.

I'd like a lager and lime with ice in it, Mikey will have some cider.

Some of us like dull! Seriously, I was always in awe of Brooks Brothers clothing as a young lad. I used to have a very beautiful Brooks Brothers cashmere and wool overcoat that I wore to school. Cost about £12.

When I finally went to New York it was one of the first places I went to. Couldn't believe it! It was like entering the promised land! I got a few of their button throughs that have lasted 12 years and still look like new - try that with a Sherman. Ben Sherman shirts are far worse than they were in the 70s/80s and believe me - it's some achievement as they were pretty poor then.

You used to be able to get very beautiful second-hand American clothes from Flip in London. It was also far more stylish and cheaper than buying the mod-oriented rubbish that was about in the late 70s / early 80s.

Sadly Marks & Spencer bought them (you could buy their shirts in M&S in London in the early 90s) and when I last went to the shop in New York it was really bad, with the oxford button downs hidden in a corner (had to ask for them). May have got better again now I suppose, was the shop any good Gareth?

i got a pair of florsheim's on today but judging by that website mine are the ole Lexington Wingtip T1's - well i learned something today.

I got my first Ben Sherman, pale blue cotton, at the end of 1966, and it was great, the best shirt I'd had till then. It wasn't fitted, sort of square, as most shirts were then. I think the fitted ones came in towards the end of the 60s, I remember the first of those I got was pale green, and wasn't all cotton. I've still got my old Crombie I had when I was a Mod from Austin Reed, and my original sheepskin, and can still wear them, but not with a jacket.

Anyway that is simply a trip down memory lane. When I now go out to a soul do I always wear a short sleeved shirt, sometimes button down or maybe a polo shirt. Sometimes wear a shirt outside my trousers, but it can't be one of those with a long tail on it, really don't like that. I prefer shirts to be all cotton, better when you dance and perspire. A spare t shirt would be a good idea.

For trousers it is nearly always chinos, preferably Dockers, or jeans. Incidentally does anyone know anywhere in the London region where Dockers are sold cheaper than £55 a pair? I am sure they are much cheaper in the states.

I've got to the point in my life where comfy shoes are important, especially as I've had problems with my right foot for over a year. I haven't got any really expensive shoes, but I do like leather soled, but they cost a fortune to repair. I must admit that I often wear a pair of my work shoes, Clarks, and have generally found them okay on the dance floor, especially with a smidgeon of talc on the floor, lol. Nothing wrong with trainers, comfort while dancing is most important.

I've got quite a nice Harrington I got from Simons a few years ago, but don't often wear it to soul do's (wish I still had the original American one I got from the Squire Shop in Berwick Street in the 60s, lovely jacket, sort of dark brick red). One thing that would be nice at clubs would be a secure cloakroom, wouldn't mind paying to leave my coat and bag safely. As this doesn't seem to exist I don't usually wear anything that can't be rolled up and put in my bag. Plus whatever you wear seems to smell of other people's smoke at the end of the evening.

Nowadays I just can't imagine how I used to wear a suit or jacket and tie to an all nighter, I must have smelt a bit in the morning.

As we are all going out for a good time, feeling comfortable in whatever you wear has to be the priority. Although in view of Mikey's post may leave the check button down at home for a while.

Where is the Brook Brothers shop in the City?

The Brooks Brothers in London is in Threadneedle Street. Is it any good? I'd have to say not really, on balance. In the last decade the brand as a whole has become less enticing as business attire gets standardised on both sides of the pond. Now the clothes in the main are virtually indistinguishable from those you could find in Austin Reed. However, the button-down shirts are to my mind still the best you can buy if you want the traditional 'pre-groovy' styles of the late 50s and early 60s (in fact they were made like this from the late 20s); the cotton's still great and the details are beautiful.

The fact is that BBs has changed because no-one under the age of 70 in the States wants to dress like this to go to work, let alone to hang out in sweaty night clubs in the stuffy attire of a Wall Street twat. All the traditional shirtmakers that John SImon used to stock like Troy (remember the flap pocket?) and Sero have long gone out of business. Pendleton Mills still hangs in there with its woollen garments, but I would imagine that the bulk of these on a worldwide level are bought by the Japanese rocking scene.

Edited March 16, 200619 yr by garethx

Where is the Brook Brothers shop in the City?

Think its on the Corner of Threadneedle and Old Broad Street, or thereabouts.

Not Quite you were nearly there....The Fringe & Buckle Loafers Are made by FLORSHEIM the style is called Vaughn....& they are $89....from....

www.shoebuy.com

Jon Buck

Nice one Jon

I got them mixed up with the Cole Haan - Mens pinch buckle. they look almost identical.

Regards Ritchie.

The Brooks Brothers in London is in Threadneedle Street. Is it any good? I'd have to say not really, on balance. In the last decade the brand as a whole has become less enticing as business attire gets standardised on both sides of the pond. Now the clothes in the main are virtually indistinguishable from those you could find in Austin Reed. However, the button-down shirts are to my mind still the best you can buy if you want the traditional 'pre-groovy' styles of the late 50s and early 60s (in fact they were made like this from the late 20s); the cotton's still great and the details are beautiful.

The fact is that BBs has changed because no-one under the age of 70 in the States wants to dress like this to go to work, let alone to hang out in sweaty night clubs in the stuffy attire of a Wall Street twat. All the traditional shirtmakers that John SImon used to stock like Troy (remember the flap pocket?) and Sero have long gone out of business. Pendleton Mills still hangs in there with its woollen garments, but I would imagine that the bulk of these on a worldwide level are bought by the Japanese rocking scene.

I was in New York with a very blue blood American a few years back, and someone asked him who shopped at Ralph Lauren, and he replied that it was people who didn't have the taste to go to Brooks Brothers. PMSL

Would have been 1980. Maybe 81. Ben Sherman certainly got even worse after that, the stuff in the late eighties you could almost see through.

Shame. In the 60s they were good. Very soft cotton.

Agree with Baz.

Surely everyone should wear what they would wear on a normal night down the pub. Otherwise it's a bit fancy dress isn't it?

Although if you're happy going to the local shop for a loaf in a pair of spencers and a vest then absolutely more power to you and nobody can knock you for that. Brilliant!

i still get spencers made for me, got loads of them just had a dennim pair made, the people at spencers are fantastic i usually order a pair on monday and have them delivered by friday

i did drive to london a few months ago for a pair of shoes, took me 2 1/2 hours to get there, i went in to the shop bought my shoes and drove another 2 1/2 hours home (i needed them to wear that night)

.........Andrew

This style of clothing ( for those of us old enough to remember ) is of course the Mod Look from the mid sixties. Ben sherman shirts were a copy of "Brooks brothers" shirts but with a tailored or waisted look. Proper or vintage denim Jeans & jackets, are still available on the Internet. Nowadays most people dont care about "Cone 501 or 818 Jelt" denim, but the ones whoe still persue such clothes & styles pay top prices to secure the desired items. So its not just rare sixties sounds some of us are after. The clothes a styles are part of our heritage as well.

Regards Ritchie.

Agree with Baz.

Surely everyone should wear what they would wear on a normal night down the pub. Otherwise it's a bit fancy dress isn't it?

Although if you're happy going to the local shop for a loaf in a pair of spencers and a vest then absolutely more power to you and nobody can knock you for that. Brilliant!

I think everyone should go to clubs in fancy dress. Clubs should be themed, cowboys and indians one week, vicars and tarts the next, in fact I'm thinking of doing a psychadelic and beat club where people have to dress as eighties football hooligans, that should put the cat amongst the pigeons (its a red cat with purple pigeons). Shame that the music makes my ears bleed.

Now about you buying bread in that suit...

couldnt afford Levis jeans in the 1970s but was more than happy with my "Flemmings Jeans " made by a shop on Walton Road Liverpool ,always remember Ritchie Andrews[aka Pants] looking extra cool in his clothes in The Palace in Rhyl throughout the seventies ,I think that must be were the name "Pants" came from .

couldnt afford Levis jeans in the 1970s but was more than happy with my "Flemmings Jeans " made by a shop on Walton Road Liverpool ,always remember Ritchie Andrews[aka Pants] looking extra cool in his clothes in The Palace in Rhyl throughout the seventies ,I think that must be were the name "Pants" came from .

Scouser in paying for clothes shocker!

Scouser in paying for clothes shocker!

We were not Scousers ,I was from Wales but that was my big thrill in those days going shopping to Liverpoool [sad life wasnt it] Yacky Da [thats welsh]

I remember me and my mate having blazers at Burtons made with coloured braiding on the lapels and around the edges of the jacket. We looked like a pair of bus conductors. I also recall when Ben Shermans hit the scene and certain short sleeved colours were in big demand such as bottle green and black. I used to alternate between the Highland Room and the Torch. Ben Sherman at the Mecca and Fred Perry Polo at the Torch. Never liked the Wigan fashions really.

Agree with Baz.

Surely everyone should wear what they would wear on a normal night down the pub. Otherwise it's a bit fancy dress isn't it?

Agreed. I also find this particular style guarantees your own space on the dancefloor too

Godz