Mak Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 I have just been clearing an old wardrobe full of records out and I came accross an old late 60's mod soulclub tune, an instrumental by THE SWINGING MEDALLIONS - HERE IT COMES AGAIN .It had me thinking, is there room for instros on todays scene . I have only heard one instro played out in recent yrs and that was at Blackburn Hall spun by Roger Banks. Has it happens THE SWINGING MEDALLIONS(flip side toDOUBLE SHOT) ain't half bad Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 I have just been clearing an old wardrobe full of records out and I came accross an old late 60's mod soulclub tune, an instrumental by THE SWINGING MEDALLIONS - HERE IT COMES AGAIN .It had me thinking, is there room for instros on todays scene . I have only heard one instro played out in recent yrs and that was at Blackburn Hall spun by Roger Banks. Has it happens THE SWINGING MEDALLIONS(flip side toDOUBLE SHOT) ain't half bad I posted it on here,sometime ago,i like it and have played it out a few times. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 even though no soul in them instrumentals still have place on the scene IMHO. Not everyone's cup of tea I know but tracks like Davis & Tyler - Hold On Help Is On The Way, Sidras Theme, Chaumonts still sound good today. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Wiganer1 Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 always room for instrumentals in my book and always include in my spot a couple i played astral trip out at xmas and it sounded brill..to my ears anyway always buying instrumentals...got some crackers too top inst from last year was the party brothers - do the groundhog (inst to billy bass - im coming to ) brill too Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Try "for liz"on four brothers,cant think of artist,andrew brown maybe,if i find it i`ll post it. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Trevski Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 never really been keen on instrumentals meself, but the odd one here and there is ok. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
bro Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Always room for instros in my book too ,and have always been around since the dawn of man! harlem rumble , michigan move ,bari track, rogers unreleased cadet's or canets stills pack the floor everywhere. and still love alot of the oldies instros 6by 6 , wade in the water ,call me ,elijah rockin with soul , there tons out there and i like to here a couple per set at least ! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Always room for instros in my book too ,and have always been around since the dawn of man! harlem rumble , michigan move ,bari track, rogers unreleased cadet's or canets stills pack the floor everywhere. and still love alot of the oldies instros 6by 6 , wade in the water ,call me ,elijah rockin with soul , there tons out there and i like to here a couple per set at least ! It's the Kinetts that Roger plays. As for 6x6 and wade in water, call me, wouldn't bother me if never heard those again. Harlem Rumble and Michigan Move on the other hand Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Wiganer1 Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 It's the Kinetts that Roger plays. As for 6x6 and wade in water, call me, wouldn't bother me if never heard those again. Harlem Rumble and Michigan Move on the other hand =========== remember my post on an 'instrumental all niter' ,,,i can feel it coming!!!! lol Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest the soulster Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 there should always be a place for instumentals, heres two ive been playing in my car recently, the innocent bystanders-frantic escape-pameline and lebaron taylor+the detroitstrings -inthe pocket both brilliant Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Crumb Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 I can't see the point in playing something like "Festival Time" when you could be playing "To Win Your Heart" instead but if it's an inst. only I can't see the problem. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest WPaulVanDyk Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Nothing wrong with some instrumentals. My fav's being Double Cookin and Sliced Tomatoes but do have an instrumental of I've Got Something Good by The Explosion Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Dante Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 I can't tell if they're OK for the your scene, but I love'em, but perhaps I'd rather listen to R&B, jazz and ska instrumentals than 100% northern. Hammond organ is my favourite musical instrument for solos... Cheers Dante Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Always had a soft spot for these great Booker T and the MGs cuts.....Boss sounds... look good too on black Atlantic.... "Boot-Leg" "Red Beans and Rice" "Be My Lady" Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest mel brat Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Re. instrumentals, I was thinking of posting the very same question myself! Who, are "the powers that be" that have decided that instrumentals are no longer welcome here, and why? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest mel brat Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Re. instrumentals, I was thinking of posting the very same question myself! Who, are "the powers that be" that have decided that instrumentals are no longer welcome here, and why? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Re. instrumentals, I was thinking of posting the very same question myself! Looks like you did - twice! Godz Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 I have just been clearing an old wardrobe full of records out and I came accross an old late 60's mod soulclub tune, an instrumental by THE SWINGING MEDALLIONS - HERE IT COMES AGAIN .It had me thinking, is there room for instros on todays scene . I have only heard one instro played out in recent yrs and that was at Blackburn Hall spun by Roger Banks. Has it happens THE SWINGING MEDALLIONS(flip side toDOUBLE SHOT) ain't half bad Nothing wrong with instrumentals,but what I dont like are instrumental versions of well known vocal tunes,very off putting I think,when your on the floor ,intro then when you expect the vocals..........nothing,puts me off my step,no need for em ,notice Vincent plays a lot of em,not my cup a tea tho' Bazza Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ernie Andrews Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 What I dont like is degrading a instrumental by supposedly(Still dont believe it) finding a vocal of it-The Magicians. It totally ruins it for me. Another one was dreaming up a world of fantasy- It was afantasy if you believe this was originally recorded at the same time as the instro Fav instrumentals - Frantic escape- Innocent bystanders/ six oclock - Total eclipses(Otherwise know as Supertime) & the great "Condition Red" and my fav at the moment is Remember the times - Parrish on Uptite Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Rowly Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Love em... proper ones that is not so keen on instro versions of "proper songs" like someone else said. Current fave is The TKO's - Dancing With My Baby. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 (edited) Chicano Power - thee midniters - 13446 refosoul One of my faves (more or less an instrumental) never hear it out tho' Bazza Edited January 16, 2007 by bazza Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Thorley Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Undercover - bongalis - ms 13451 refosoul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest mel brat Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Looks like you did - twice! Godz You're right! and while we're on the subject of Alzheimer's, er...I was thinking of posting the very same question myself! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Russoul1 Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 do love a good instrumental, been playing out the chaumonts - now yourve gone, sounds awesome up loud and roscoe & friends - broadway sissy happy soulin russ Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Leigh J Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 always room for instrumentals in my book and always include in my spot a couple i played astral trip out at xmas and it sounded brill..to my ears anyway always buying instrumentals...got some crackers too top inst from last year was the party brothers - do the groundhog (inst to billy bass - im coming to ) brill too What About The Mad Dog & The Pups One ? This Sounds A Bit Like Hank Jacobs , Maybe You Should Give It A Spin Mark Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ezzie Brown Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 been buying loads of instros lat;ey,ready for the revolution example hit the road jack . jerry mungo on french columbia AWESOME SO LEAVE UM ALONE U LOT I WANT THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ezzie Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Wiganer1 Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 What About The Mad Dog & The Pups One ? This Sounds A Bit Like Hank Jacobs , Maybe You Should Give It A Spin Mark ====== im not sure that i know that one leigh..just bought a cracker on toddlin town - sisters and brothers ,,, fooking ace !!!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest mel brat Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 ====== im not sure that i know that one leigh..just bought a cracker on toddlin town - sisters and brothers ,,, fooking ace !!!! Is "Why Did You Leave Me Girl" - Mad Dog & Pups/Vocal, Soulful Hounds/Inst. on Magic City, if that's any help. Great tune! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Wilxy Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 As already stated, there are good and not so good instrumentals, particularly with regard to the ones more famed for their vocal counterparts, however there are in my humble opinion exceptions to the rule, take Bari Track and Milton wright for examples, compared to some of the Motown "backing tracks", (and whilst I'm certainly not anti Motown and am appreciative of the Funk brothers etc.) sometimes I cringe when hearing some of them, particularly when played at a venue. Having said that I've heard one or two instrumentals that sound better than the vocal itself There are one or two instrumentals I'd be interested to know whether vocals actually existed of them, the likes of the superb Theo Coff explosion on Dearborn, and Earl Wright -Thumb a ride, or earlier tracks like Bok to Bach. Incidentally has there been a thread relating to vocals/instrumentals, in the past? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 (edited) As already stated, there are good and not so good instrumentals, particularly with regard to the ones more famed for their vocal counterparts, however there are in my humble opinion exceptions to the rule, take Bari Track and Milton wright for examples, compared to some of the Motown "backing tracks", (and whilst I'm certainly not anti Motown and am appreciative of the Funk brothers etc.) sometimes I cringe when hearing some of them, particularly when played at a venue. Having said that I've heard one or two instrumentals that sound better than the vocal itself There are one or two instrumentals I'd be interested to know whether vocals actually existed of them, the likes of the superb Theo Coff explosion on Dearborn, and Earl Wright -Thumb a ride, or earlier tracks like Bok to Bach. Incidentally has there been a thread relating to vocals/instrumentals, in the past? Hi Wilxy I tried to find out about this in a recent post >>> Link <<< Basically does anyone know which were generally released first. -Dee Dee Sharp released 1968, Producers '69.... --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Thanks to Rachel for this Info ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Edited January 20, 2007 by 45cellar Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Wilxy Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 Good shout Roger, I would have thought such a topic would have stimulated some good debate, knowing the knowledge within this forum, are there no clues on the labels that can be gleaned :search: Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 (edited) Good shout Roger, I would have thought such a topic would have stimulated some good debate, knowing the knowledge within this forum, are there no clues on the labels that can be gleaned :search: Hi Wilxy I thought that there might be some information available, I can't see anything on the labels to give any clues as to date. Regarding Thumb A Ride, now there's a thought was there ever a Vocal for Earl Wright? or any of the others Thumb A Ride - earl wright - capitol 13611 refosoul -----------------?----------------- Edited January 20, 2007 by 45cellar Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 (edited) What About The Mad Dog & The Pups One ? This Sounds A Bit Like Hank Jacobs , Maybe You Should Give It A Spin Mark Hi Playfair If you like "The Party Brothers" Definitely give "The Soulful Hounds" - a listen (Mad Dog And The Pups - Vocal) Why Did You Leave Me Girl - The Soulful Hounds - magic city 13631 refosoul Edited January 21, 2007 by 45cellar Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 (edited) The Gallery - chuck tillman combo - swift 12673 refosoul Edited January 20, 2007 by 45cellar Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 (edited) Hi Wilxy I thought that there might be some information available, I can't see anything on the labels to give any clues as to date. Regarding Thumb A Ride, now there's a thought was there ever a Vocal for Earl Wright? or any of the others Thumb A Ride - earl wright - capitol 13611 refosoul -----------------?----------------- A vocal to Earl Wright ....... I would like to think so , but NO . Recorded in 1965 , I , like many others , have searched to see if there was a vocal to " TAR " , but without success . If it does exist , it is likely to be by H B Barnum , who was reputed to have been behind the record . In respect of other instrumentals , what about " Black Is Black " by Lord Sitar on U.S. Capitol ? this was reputed to be the pseudonym for George Harrison ...... Malc Burton Edited January 20, 2007 by Malc Burton Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 (edited) A vocal to Earl Wright ....... I would like to think so , but NO . Recorded in 1965 , I , like many others , have searched to see if there was a vocal to " TAR " , but without success . If it does exist , it is likely to be by H B Barnum , who was reputed to have been behind the record . In respect of other instrumentals , what about " Black Is Black " by Lord Sitar on U.S. Capitol ? this was reputed to be the pseudonym for George Harrison ...... Malc Burton Hi Malc Thanks once again for the information. It happened with The Gallop where years later the Vocal turned up. Obviously on this occasion "Thumb A Ride" remains Instrumental only. Which is no bad thing as it is a great Instrumental, however, thanks anyway, to you and others who have taken the time to search for a Vocal. Edited January 20, 2007 by 45cellar Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 (edited) Two early Instrumentals Soul Serenade - Beau Dollar & the Coins - Prime 13612 refosoul The Kid - Andre Brasseur - 2052"] Edited January 20, 2007 by 45cellar Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 Rat Race - The Righteous Brothers Band - 7224 refosoul Another Classic Instrumental Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 (edited) Two early Instrumentals Soul Serenade - Beau Dollar & the Coins - Prime 13612 refosoul The Kid - Andre Brasseur - 2052"] With regard to " The Kid " by french jazz organist Andre Brasseur , I remember when the record first surfaced in the 60s , it was rumoured that the disc was labelled wrongly . This meant that the " The Kid " was actually the title for the tune on the b -side " Holiday " , and vice - versa . Can anyone clarify / confirm this , or is it just another urban myth ? Malc Burton Edited January 20, 2007 by Malc Burton Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest rachel Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 Hi Wilxy I tried to find out about this in a recent post >>> Link <<< Basically does anyone know which were generally released first. Dee Dee Sharp released 1968, Producers '69.... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 With regard to " The Kid " by french jazz organist Andre Brasseur , I remember when the record first surfaced in the 60s , it was rumoured that the disc was labelled wrongly . This meant that the " The Kid " was actually the title for the tune on the b -side " Holiday " , and vice - versa . Can anyone clarify / confirm this , or is it just another urban myth ? Malc Burton I remember this story in the early 70s Malc. Turned out to be bogus. A mate and I were discussing this not long ago, and afterwards I remembered I had a CBS sampler type LP with Holiday on it. Plays Holiday same as the 45. Actually when you think about it you can shout "The Kid' along to the tune as well. Godz Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 " The Kid " by french jazz organist Andre Brasseur , Pretty sure he's Belgian actually as well. More of a Mod organist than Jazz but still probably best to not send him any money for records Godz Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 Dee Dee Sharp released 1968, Producers '69.... Hi Rachel Thanks for that, Vocal first then Instrumental for this one. I'll update my first post with this info. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 (edited) The Gallop - milton wright and the terra shirma strings - carla 13614 refosoul Edited January 20, 2007 by 45cellar Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 Makin' Up Time - The Holidays - 4424"] Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Leigh J Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 Hi Playfair If you like "The Party Brothers" Definitely give "The Soulful Hounds" - a listen (Mad Dog And The Pups - Vocal) QUOTE(wiganer1 @ Jan 20 2007, 01:01 AM) ====== im not sure that i know that one leigh..just bought a cracker on toddlin town - sisters and brothers ,,, fooking ace !!!! Is "Why Did You Leave Me Girl" - Mad Dog & Pups/Vocal, Soulful Hounds/Inst. on Magic City, if that's any help. Great tune! Thats The One Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 (edited) I remember this story in the early 70s Malc. Turned out to be bogus. A mate and I were discussing this not long ago, and afterwards I remembered I had a CBS sampler type LP with Holiday on it. Plays Holiday same as the 45. Actually when you think about it you can shout "The Kid' along to the tune as well. Godz Thanks Godz .... I always thought , but one never knew , that the story might be a myth ..... AB , as you state , is Belgian , and not French ; my apologies to the people of France . I had the 45 in a very nice picture sleeve on Palette , showing AB in a " hip " pose , sporting a fringed haircut and a pencil beard ( no moustache ) a la John Thompson in the " Jazz Club " sketches from " The Fast Show " ; hence my assuming he was a ' jazzer ' ...... nice . Seemingly , AB is still plying his trade around Europe with his organ ...... Pictures below are from albums from AB's heyday : obviously he had cast off the ' Jazzer ' image by this time . Malc Burton Edited January 20, 2007 by Malc Burton Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ezzie Brown Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 Pretty sure he's Belgian actually as well. More of a Mod organist than Jazz but still probably best to not send him any money for records Godz once again people on this forum slag off belgian dealers!!!! u must be going 2 the wrong people, i have had 100s of records from all over europe mostly belgium and been shafted once, for £20. pisses me off all this bull, they have even sent me £100 recordes from belgium before payment, so yeah theres a few dodgy guys as over here but do your homework, its pretty easy to find dodgy feedback or having different payment adresses is another dodge, if in doubt ask around or send only half payment , some dealers will even hold funds 4 u until record arrives then pass it on 2 seller! if its 2 cheap 2 believe leave it alone or take the chance and dont moan, nothing is free in life! i love my belgian friends,built my collection [of what I like ]around them EZZIE Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 once again people on this forum slag off belgian dealers!!!! u must be going 2 the wrong people, i have had 100s of records from all over europe mostly belgium and been shafted once, for £20. pisses me off all this bull, they have even sent me £100 recordes from belgium before payment, so yeah theres a few dodgy guys as over here but do your homework, its pretty easy to find dodgy feedback or having different payment adresses is another dodge, if in doubt ask around or send only half payment , some dealers will even hold funds 4 u until record arrives then pass it on 2 seller! if its 2 cheap 2 believe leave it alone or take the chance and dont moan, nothing is free in life! i love my belgian friends,built my collection [of what I like ]around them EZZIE Ezzie, The comment was meant in fun and refers to a bit of a standing joke on this forum. I've bought records from Belgium and sold to Belgian buyers. I'm also extremely fond of Belgian beer. No insult intended. Godz Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 (edited) Sidra's Theme - ronnie & robyn - sidra 13620 refosoul Edited January 20, 2007 by 45cellar Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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