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just watched dance britannia on bbc 4 very enjoyable, tomorrow is the 70s,at the end they showed a some very brief clips and im sure theres something for us very briefely they showed a colour clip of possibly n/soulers that i have never seen, so brief only a couple of seconds. i dont want to build up anyones hopes but could could this be the lost TOTP footsie thing, did anyone tape this to confirm? [shouldnt have said this as im probibly gonna be wrong tongue.gif ]

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just watched dance britannia on bbc 4 very enjoyable, tomorrow is the 70s,at the end they showed a some very brief clips and im sure theres something for us very briefely they showed a colour clip of possibly n/soulers that i have never seen, so brief only a couple of seconds. i dont want to build up anyones hopes but could could this be the lost TOTP footsie thing, did anyone tape this to confirm? [shouldnt have said this as im probibly gonna be wrong :ohmy: ]

Yes it was rather....i also saw that ....along with the clip off Vernon from Bradford...spinning at the Casino...have already sky+'sed it for tomorrow night thumbup.gif ....Delxxx

Thought this was a repeat showing of the series shown earlier this year ? If thats the case then I think there was a thread about it at the time.

I could have this very wrong tho cos I don't pay the tele that much attention

Cheers Paul

just watched the first 2 episodes via the BBCmodern download thingy----very intresting(yeh there,s a bit of --This England--with Bradford,s Vernon dancing in his bags) but lots of 60,s footage--

The Cy Laurie Jazz Club in Ham Yard(which was later the Scene)

Different Ready Steady Go footage

Good interviews with Chris Hill.Paolo Hewitt

Some great early Ska,Reggae black and white film

Dancers at The Flamingo--and tales about the G.I.,s

Next one is 1970 to the present day

Regards

Tony C.

Thought this was a repeat showing of the series shown earlier this year ? If thats the case then I think there was a thread about it at the time.

I could have this very wrong tho cos I don't pay the tele that much attention

Cheers Paul

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just watched the first 2 episodes via the BBCmodern download thingy----very intresting(yeh there,s a bit of --This England--with Bradford,s Vernon dancing in his bags) but lots of 60,s footage--

The Cy Laurie Jazz Club in Ham Yard(which was later the Scene)

Different Ready Steady Go footage

Good interviews with Chris Hill.Paolo Hewitt

Some great early Ska,Reggae black and white film

Dancers at The Flamingo--and tales about the G.I.,s

Next one is 1970 to the present day

Regards

Tony C.

ive just rewatched the end of episode 2 and it IS the top of the pops footsee clip that is gonna be in it tonight....9pm
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Can anyone up this here! I am in Stockholm and the BBC iPlayer wont let me play it.

Here's hoping!

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Can anyone up this here! I am in Stockholm and the BBC iPlayer wont let me play it.

Here's hoping!

i downloaded it today and did read that you can only get it in the u.k and that they are working on a version for the rest of the world

The inclusion and acknowledgement in the programme , of the influence of NS into the culture of dancing , was given in my estimation , a more creditable treatment - and understanding - of " what " the genre was all about , than it has had previously in documentaries of a similar nature ........

Interesting to see the still photographs with Arthur Fenn and Clarky in them ......

30 plus years on , and Arthur still looks the same ......

Malc Burton

I think we are the only scene that have ever actually properly danced in the truest sense of the word, don't you think Malc?

Dictionary defintion:

to move one's feet or body, or both, rhythmically in a pattern of steps, esp. to the accompaniment of music.

Look at the defining genres over the years - you have the Reggae/Ska clockwork movements, the Rock 'n' Roll hop or reliance on a partner thing that they had, The Mod/Mersey Beat/60's Pop thing (Shing a Ling etc), Rock (??), punk (right!? :lol: ), House (...and people had lost the basics by this time).

A quality Soulie dancing is still to this day awe inspiring, I know you know, I'm not teaching you how to suck eggs - I'm just taking the opportunity to revel in the way we dance.

I have taken many a newbie out over the years and they have found it jaw-dropping, which it is.

The only inbreds that take the piss are the usual uneducated, insecure, jealousy riddled expendables. biggrin.gif

i downloaded it today and did read that you can only get it in the u.k and that they are working on a version for the rest of the world

Ah well, I guess I'll have to wait.

Thanks anyway.

watched it last night, same old Wigan footage, but still its there in History for future generations to laugh at !

3 stand outs

Chris Hill at the Caister weekenders

The footage of everyone of their heads on the Acid House scene 80s/90s

and the Granny trying to Pole Dance laugh.gif

Oh and what about the bird saying the Northern scene was all about Tough Northern Blokes trying to be like Billy Elliot :lol:

Enjoyed it alot !

As per usual the chemical side of things had to be mentioned.

Of course Russ informed the nation that the attendees were all fuelled on "Lucozade" - Priceless!!

My mother(73) has just informed me she watched it --and said--"your lot(Wigan) had more energy and enthusiasm,than any of the others---but why do they always mention the wamphetamine(??? she,s always said that!!) you and your friends are still travelling all over nowadays--so it can,t have been the pills that you went for,and who was that nice polite man that was on about lucozade??"

B.T.W Rictic--i never saw the Top of the pops bit(Footsee) you mentioned last night--did anyone? in fact i haven,t seen it 4 yrs. --it,s always the same clips--This England, Blackburn,Morecambe etc.

I thoroughly enjoyed all 3 shows and was pleased the Northern Scene got the last word on SERIES about nearly 100 yrs of dance music --with THE Casualeers being the fade out record!

HAPPY NEW YEAR

TO FRIENDS OLD AND NEW

Tony Coleby and Rani

As per usual the chemical side of things had to be mentioned.

Of course Russ informed the nation that the attendees were all fuelled on "Lucozade" - Priceless!!

B.T.W Rictic--i never saw the Top of the pops bit(Footsee) you mentioned last night--did anyone? in fact i haven,t seen it 4 yrs. --it,s always the same clips--This England, Blackburn,Morecambe etc.

It's never been reshown...even when UK Gold reran all existing TOTP episodes, it wasn't shown.

Cheers Pete--i thought i,d missed summat--that explains why i,ve not seen it in years(since 1974?? in fact--lol

Tony Coleby

watched it last night, same old Wigan footage, but still its there in History for future generations to laugh at !

3 stand outs

Chris Hill at the Caister weekenders

The footage of everyone of their heads on the Acid House scene 80s/90s

and the Granny trying to Pole Dance :lol:

Oh and what about the bird saying the Northern scene was all about Tough Northern Blokes trying to be like Billy Elliot :thumbup:

Enjoyed it alot !

My god , they didn't miss the bit out about them all being miners did they? All northerners are tough, miners and have 10ft of snow outside for 6 months a year........yawn! :tumbleweed3:

Oh and what about the bird saying the Northern scene was all about Tough Northern Blokes trying to be like Billy Elliot :tumbleweed3:

Enjoyed it alot !

:thumbup::lol::lol::D

Great programe some cracking footage. My teenager loved it saying "I can't imagine you doing that dad" about the wigan stuff :D

It's never been reshown...even when UK Gold reran all existing TOTP episodes, it wasn't shown.
i found this website with old totp archive material but im not very good with computers not sure how you can view any of the progs,d,ross/g,knight are on there but gave up trying to have a look at them,help!!!!.

https://bbc-hackday.dyndns.org:2821/programmes/f2m5/episodes

who is the geezer from the this england video saying that if wigan ever shut it would be like instant nostalgia etc,i can remember him at the casino in the early years but cannot remember his name wasnt he a big 45 collector??, :tumbleweed3:

who is the geezer from the this england video saying that if wigan ever shut it would be like instant nostalgia etc,i can remember him at the casino in the early years but cannot remember his name wasnt he a big 45 collector??, :tumbleweed3:

That was Dave Withers...well known and respected (ex) dj, dealer and collector

They don't work unfortunately - damn!

thanks for that pete i thought it was hopeless at computers me!!!,pity cos i would have liked to view some of the vids,doh!!!

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B.T.W Rictic--i never saw the Top of the pops bit(Footsee) you mentioned last night--did anyone? in fact i haven,t seen it 4 yrs. --it,s always the same clips--This England, Blackburn,Morecambe etc.

it was at the end of part two in the trailor for part 3 if you watch in the bbc iplayer take it to approx 1 minute before the end and you will see, just dont blink :tumbleweed3:

i found this website with old totp archive material but im not very good with computers not sure how you can view any of the progs,d,ross/g,knight are on there but gave up trying to have a look at them,help!!!!.

https://bbc-hackday.dyndns.org:2821/programmes/f2m5/episodes

If you scroll down the page with all the years on theres a link to musicbrainz where they show you how to view :tumbleweed3: I think you have to download a player first. It looks a bloody good site for sharing music files so thanks for posting.

If you scroll down the page with all the years on theres a link to musicbrainz where they show you how to view :tumbleweed3: I think you have to download a player first. It looks a bloody good site for sharing music files so thanks for posting.

Its a bit confusing tho - will post up when ive sussed it! :thumbup:

PART THREE IS BEING REPEATED NEW YEARS DAY AT 9.10 PM

BBC 4--Freeview Channel 9

Be warned all the Northern Stuff is on at the start--don't miss it !! :(

Its a bit confusing tho - will post up when ive sussed it! wink.gif
hello gancho and all,hope you can work it out coz im already confused :(:thumbup:

On a related topic did anyone catch the Last Man at Hammersmith Palais ?

Some good informative interviews apart from rent a quote Robert Elms. There is just something about that man that makes me want to rest my head above those raising bollards in rush hour.

Back on subject the "Dance" series has been very good.

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On a related topic did anyone catch the Last Man at Hammersmith Palais ?

Some good informative interviews apart from rent a quote Robert Elms. There is just somehting about this man that makes me want to rest my head above those raising bollards in rush hour.

I did, brilliant program. What amazed me is how many people were on the dancefloor back in the 40's...they barely had room to move

I did, brilliant program. What amazed me is how many people were on the dancefloor back in the 40's...they barely had room to move

just like the Ritz(Manchester) then? :(

just quickly watched the first 3 or 4 mins northern bit

agree with what you say Malc thought was done in a good way

no new footage in early bit , any later

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/page/item/b008m3tf.shtml

Northern dancing is descended from The Lindy Hoppers..The greatest expressionists of all time..

On a related topic did anyone catch the Last Man at Hammersmith Palais ?

Some good informative interviews apart from rent a quote Robert Elms. There is just something about that man that makes me want to rest my head above those raising bollards in rush hour.

Back on subject the "Dance" series has been very good.

Surely you did not expect any musical documentary programme such as " LMIHP " not to feature the spoutings of Dutch Elms ? ......

A good programme overall , but sadly spoilt for me , by the b******s that man speaks ......

If the Queen was to give knighthoods for services to bull***t , Dutch would receive one without a doubt ......

Malc Burton

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Northern dancing is descended from The Lindy Hoppers..The greatest expressionists of all time..

The Lindy Hop evolved in the U.S. in the late 1920s and the early 1930s , and was an " organic " fusion of many musical styles that were allied to dances that were popular during those times , predominately jazz, tap and charleston ......

The are many characteristic similarities between Lindy Hoppers and the dancers on the NS scene ......

Malc Burton

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PART THREE IS BEING REPEATED NEW YEARS DAY AT 9.10 PM

BBC 4--Freeview Channel 9

Be warned all the Northern Stuff is on at the start--don't miss it !! :lol:

JUST A REMINDER FOR THOSE WHO MISSED IT

Just watched this on the BBC player and as people say, much of it is rehashed from previous documentaries. Russ's lucosade comment is priceless though.

One of the reasons that there isn't much footage of Wigan is because (I think) it was only filmed once. From people that were there at the time most I've met claim to have been on the balcony shouting for the lights to be turned off.

Does anyone now regret not being on the floor while the filming was going on?

Just interested, not taking the p*ss or anything.

Cheers

Paul

Just watched this on the BBC player and as people say, much of it is rehashed from previous documentaries. Russ's lucosade comment is priceless though.

One of the reasons that there isn't much footage of Wigan is because (I think) it was only filmed once. From people that were there at the time most I've met claim to have been on the balcony shouting for the lights to be turned off.

Does anyone now regret not being on the floor while the filming was going on?

Just interested, not taking the p*ss or anything.

Cheers

Paul

But I drink Lucozade :shades: I thought everyone did?! whistling.gif

One of the reasons that there isn't much footage of Wigan is because (I think) it was only filmed once. From people that were there at the time most I've met claim to have been on the balcony shouting for the lights to be turned off. CORRECT- or under it

Does anyone now regret not being on the floor while the filming was going on?-WHAT? with these eyes-NO

Cheers

Paul

ATB

Tony

Just watched this on the BBC player and as people say, much of it is rehashed from previous documentaries. Russ's lucosade comment is priceless though.

One of the reasons that there isn't much footage of Wigan is because (I think) it was only filmed once. From people that were there at the time most I've met claim to have been on the balcony shouting for the lights to be turned off.

Does anyone now regret not being on the floor while the filming was going on?

Just interested, not taking the p*ss or anything.

Cheers

Paul

It was only filmed on the one night, and was quite controversial at the time - many people saw it as commercialisation of the scene, and thus an unwelcome media intrusion. I remember watching "This England" with my parents when it was aired - how embarrassing was that? rolleyes.gif

It was only filmed on the one night, and was quite controversial at the time - many people saw it as commercialisation of the scene, and thus an unwelcome media intrusion. I remember watching "This England" with my parents when it was aired - how embarrassing was that? rolleyes.gif

Very embarrasing for my brother Neil, we were watching it with my Mum and there he is in the queue outside flicking the "v's" at the camera crew... :shades:

Just watched this on the BBC player and as people say, much of it is rehashed from previous documentaries. Russ's lucosade comment is priceless though.

One of the reasons that there isn't much footage of Wigan is because (I think) it was only filmed once. From people that were there at the time most I've met claim to have been on the balcony shouting for the lights to be turned off.

Does anyone now regret not being on the floor while the filming was going on?

Just interested, not taking the p*ss or anything.

Cheers

Paul

i was there that night and it's true nobody wanted the media there hence the dancefloor being quite sparce and everyone headed up to the balcony or mr m's,although my mate happened to have a cine camera with him at the time and filmed some footage himself,still trying to get it off him after all these years angry.gif i'm sure there was another nighter where the lights were on for some reason and a live act on also,anyone confirm?

ya cant beat a good bit of shaggin' on the dance floor especially with a backing track such as the featured to do it too

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i'm sure there was another nighter where the lights were on for some reason and a live act on also,anyone confirm?

Think you are right......... I was there for the 'This England' filming, but also remember a nite around a year or so later where the lights stayed on for the first hour-ish.......no idea why though?... :wicked:

From memory live acts around then were...

Edwin (of course), Martha Reeves, Jnr Walker, The Showstoppers, Ann Peebles and IIRC Tommy Hunt, unless it had something to do with the above?..

Also I seem to recall 'Sad-Cafe' playing live prior to a Niter starting, and thier 'Gig' over-running, but again if this was the reason for the above I don't remember.

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It was only filmed on the one night, and was quite controversial at the time - many people saw it as commercialisation of the scene, and thus an unwelcome media intrusion. I remember watching "This England" with my parents when it was aired - how embarrassing was that? :wicked:

Very similar experience but watched it with Eddie Hubbard when it was first aired.

Like a lot of people I didn't want it filmed in the first place.

With hindsight it is the only footage available, to my knowledge, so not neccessarily a bad thing in that respect.

Its a bit confusing tho - will post up when ive sussed it! :wicked:

You won't suss it because it's just a catalogueing system!

i was there that night and it's true nobody wanted the media there hence the dancefloor being quite sparce and everyone headed up to the balcony or mr m's,although my mate happened to have a cine camera with him at the time and filmed some footage himself,still trying to get it off him after all these years :wicked: i'm sure there was another nighter where the lights were on for some reason and a live act on also,anyone confirm?

It was the following week - the lights were on for 2 weeks in a row

i was there that night and it's true nobody wanted the media there hence the dancefloor being quite sparce and everyone headed up to the balcony or mr m's,although my mate happened to have a cine camera with him at the time and filmed some footage himself,still trying to get it off him after all these years :wicked: i'm sure there was another nighter where the lights were on for some reason and a live act on also,anyone confirm?

It was the following week - the lights were on for 2 weeks in a row

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