Nick Soule

A friend has been in touch with one of James’ kids, and they sent him a scan of the picture.

James Thorpe is on the far left. I think that's Orthea Barnes holding the JJ Barnes album on Perception, and then JJ is of course in the white outfit - I'm not sure who anyone else is. I'm positive that James and Jay T are not the same person.

I think the skip is really just down to the turntable and stylus. I've had three copies of the first pressing that is credited with having the skip, and all three played without skipping on a Technics 1200 with both a Shure Whitelabel and N44-7 weighted at 2.5 grams. Two of the copies would skip if you went up to 3 grams or below 2 grams. And oddly, they skipped in different places, but always towards the end of the song. The real problem with this record is the fidelity of the second half. One of my old copies played through okay, but the other two (one was an EX copy) were practically unlistenable after the first half. Supposedly the demos have better fidelity throughout?

Sorry, I thought that was implied in my post.

The Yancey brother that was in the Ambassadors (on Bon, JR, Soul Track, etc.) was Clemmer Yancey. As far as I know, Dilla’s father was not in that group.

Weird write up on the back. I'm guessing whoever wrote that has never been to Detroit because Lake Michigan is on the other side of the state...

The winning bidder's feedback count matches the seller of the Sonic Wax version. 🧐

In addition to the other record on the label having an LA address, I suspect John is getting his information about the writer, Ronald Davis, from the BMI repertoire which confusingly has the Correc-tone writer, a Philadelphia based writer/performer, and what I assume is a third LA-based writer all under the same Ronald Davis profile. BMI repertoire: Ronald Davis The Philadelphia-based Ronald Davis has a profile on ReverbNation that states his first recording studio experience was at Sigma Sound in Philly, which wasn't founded until 1968 - same year as the Locations 45, and multiple years after the Detroit records. You can cross-reference the songs listed on RN with the titles on the BMI repertoire. Ronald Davis ReverbNation Profile Aside from all of that, it doesn't look or sound like a Detroit record to me.

Hopefully a Detroit collector didn't buy it because of John's description. It's an LA record.

Manuel B. Holcolm's "I Stayed Away Too Long" on Diamond Jim 900 was distributed Cotillion. Forgot about that one.

Was Mr. Bo "Lost Love Affair" on Big D 852 the only Jim Riley record that was picked up for national distribution?

Yes, there's also an ARP stamp in the runout, so it was mastered at Columbia and pressed at ARP. A few others like Eddie Hill and both Joe Matthews also have ZTSC numbers, but were plated at Nashville Matrix before being pressed at ARP, so the numbers are etched instead of stamped.

Wilson Pickett’s single on Correc-tone is from 1962, and the Supremes first single on Motown is from 1961, so it seems like they were moonlighting. But all the information I’ve read about the Pickett recording always refers to them as The Primettes. Maybe it was recorded earlier than 1962?

I’ve emailed bagsunlimited every 3-4 months since the pandemic started, and get the same response noted above every time. It’s hard to believe that no one manufactures that kind of paper anymore, but they’re really sticking to that story.

If you switch 2 and 3 around, I believe that is the correct order for everything. "I'll Be Around..." was a local hit and you never see the Mala copy in or around Detroit.

I doubt it's the Royal Ravens as Robbk suggests. Both sides of the record lack a backing group, so I would guess it's just a band name. Also, the record came out in 1969, so there was plenty of time between to two to forget about the other Ravens. Fwiw, members of Dave's family were selling off what was left in his house to different shops in Detroit in 2016-2019. As far as I know, only one VG- copy of the Ravins turned up and was in a stack of Dave's personal records (mainly soul/r&b hits, nothing great). I believe that copy is in the UK now.

Found an old picture of some more of the absolutely destroyed 10” NY Jobete acetates that came into Peoples around 2011. Tragic.

PayPal doesn’t refund their service fees anymore. The buyer essentially pays 4% or whatever the PayPal fees are on a goods/services transaction to be told that a record isn’t in stock.

Popsike has made a lot of improvements such as archiving BIN sales (they didn’t do this until like 2 years ago) and preserving sound clips to try to compete with the other eBay sales history archive, Gripsweat. I still think their site is clunky and I despise the autocomplete feature on their search bar, but it’s an important historical reference as it goes back to the early 2000s.

Looking for a nice copy of: The Related Three "Why Should We Cry" (Creative) Thanks!

I imagine it's just a typo either with the BMI registration or with the credits on the label - I don't know which one is correct though. I also think the line up of this group changed at least once before they released 1016 - it's clearly a female vocalist singing on "Don't Ever Leave Me". Also, it's worth noting that the scan you posted is the bootleg pressing. It's easily recognizable by the single rectangle around Dynamics - the original has two. There are also two label variations of the original 1011 pressing with different publishing credits.

The 45-Sleeves website says that the Hitsville USA sleeves were used on all Motown subsidiaries from 1964 through 1967 - I'm assuming up until September 1967 when the first album cover sleeves appeared. Is this actually true? This seems to be the least common Motown company sleeve even though Motown was releasing far more than they did in the red and blue turntable sleeve era (1961-1963/4). Another curious thing is that Melody/Mel-O-Dy, one of the subsidiaries on the sleeve, had it's last release in 1965.

Brad Hales might still have a couple, but from what I remember most were given away, which is how I got mine. They were all titles that neither of us recognized, and the one I have isn’t on DFTMC, so presumably unreleased. Unfortunately, I can’t recall the titles of any of the others.