Hi can anyone give up one of these for me money ready to go?

To each his own Gareth, but I've played the Horn since I was 8 years old and there's nothing 'accomplished' or even 'adequate' about it - to my ears!

Must admit, the lead guy's a better vocalist than me though.

But only just

Sean

Sean I would defend your right to give this record the thumbs down 'til my dying day, but I'm convinced that its over-exposure is at least a part of the problem.

Sean I would defend your right to give this record the thumbs down 'til my dying day, but I'm convinced that its over-exposure is at least a part of the problem.

Strange situation, isn't it, that fewer copies leads to over-exposure.

But, if that's the case mate, I hope someone turns up a mountain of 'em!

Sean

Gary smelt turned up 3 copies i had one,Nigel parker had one and i think the other went to Rod Dearlove.Sold mine to a mate for £150 but got Nigels from him for a similar price(still have this copy and mate still has my old copy).

Gary told me he had a lp by the group on a tape which he tried/thought about releasing but nothing came from this.

Another freind of mine has a picture of the group on a flyer from the US.

Chris.

You know, I stumbled across some old lists[thats what a sad man i am i`m afraid] and this very list from Gary S[ he used to go under the name of Blacknight Records].....He was very cheap to buy from even at the time.....Its funny because there were only 2 records on the list that were expensive[when i say expensive i mean £100]...! well, it was the late 80`s i think so it was expensive in relative terms !......One was F.Smog, the other was MarkIV on Britelite..

Thing was,i knew the F.Smog title from Sam`S Blackbeat reveiw but hadnt actually heard it. Still gives me nightmares

As you can guess from this,i really rate the record. Nothing whatsover to do with its rarity believe me. I reckon its an absolutely Top Class sweet soul record thats as good as any others in that vein that also just happens to be dog rare......Its funny how differently we all see things. Its a shame though i`ll never own one or be able to afford one if it does show up.

Brilliant record....

........Ivor

You know, I stumbled across some old lists[thats what a sad man i am i`m afraid] and this very list from Gary S[ he used to go under the name of Blacknight Records].....He was very cheap to buy from even at the time.....Its funny because there were only 2 records on the list that were expensive[when i say expensive i mean £100]...! well, it was the late 80`s i think so it was expensive in relative terms !......One was F.Smog, the other was MarkIV on Britelite..

Thing was,i knew the F.Smog title from Sam`S Blackbeat reveiw but hadnt actually heard it. Still gives me nightmares

As you can guess from this,i really rate the record. Nothing whatsover to do with its rarity believe me. I reckon its an absolutely Top Class sweet soul record thats as good as any others in that vein that also just happens to be dog rare......Its funny how differently we all see things. Its a shame though i`ll never own one or be able to afford one if it does show up.

Brilliant record....

........Ivor

When i sold my first copy King Moses and Larom Baker went the same week.Bought f Smogg before Gary listed it.Very lucky to get it back but sadly not the other two.

You wont get one Ian lol

wanna bet on that?

You know, I stumbled across some old lists[thats what a sad man i am i`m afraid] and this very list from Gary S[ he used to go under the name of Blacknight Records].....He was very cheap to buy from even at the time....

........Ivor

Had some superb records from Gary over the years, Ivor.

Both off the Blacknight list and from visits to his warehouse, up a backstreet in Neepsend, Sheffield.

Always remember dozens of copies of the Gifted Four, sat in a puddle, propping one of the internal doors open

Had known him from being a youngsta.

Great taste in music and a really first class fella.

Sean

PS: I've got 'that' record for you.

Pm me your address and I'll get it in the post.

those who pull this tune to bits are talking bollocks bcoz you must rememba the soul of it is in the imperfection whether it be vocally or arrangement or lyrical some tunes do get up ya nose after a while even class wigan oldies this is why tunes like this are fundamentally refreshing. give the small time guys a break for god sake and enjoy the part humility of the final product .

I'm not talking bollocks, i don't like, end of. What the f**k does bcoz mean?

well said gareth i also think there could be biassed against very rare records period.

Sorry for ruining this guys wants thread but ffs.

Edited April 29, 201015 yr by Matt Male

You don't like Flourescent Smogg guys............bloody hell!!

And I'm even more gobsmacked that Mind & Matter was mentioned in the same context............we are all entitled to our opinion, and have different taste but....................FFS!!

Cheers,

Mark R

Sorry chaps, but personal taste is by definition 'personal'.

Its not bollocks to not like something.

That's nonsense.

It might enjoyable or refreshing to you fuzzj, but I've been hearing it played out for 20+ years... and would much prefer never to hear it again, thank you!

Sean

me 2 15 years plus but i never tire of it sean but i do tire of trivial critique bcos of personell taste in particular in a wants forum.

To each his own Gareth, but I've played the Horn since I was 8 years old

Sean

and ive had the horn since i was 16..lolol

and ive had the horn since i was 16..lolol

brilliant moldie made my night,

Sorry for ruining this guys wants thread but ffs.

Can fully understand Fuzzj's comments myself

Everytime a "ultra rare" record is mentioned on SS ,9 times out of 10 it get's torn to shreds ,maybe it's too easy to say it's shite than admit you'll never own one.

I myself would'nt spend the money to own this because my wants list is too long with more affordable records that imo sound better,that does'nt mean this is shite

Also think sometimes people just don't get it when it comes to the rawness of a tune ,instead preferring a more polished performance.

That said it is about personal taste and one man's meat is another mans poison

P.s to the guy who put the want up in the 1st place ..good luck in your search ,and if i may be so bold...to avoid negative comments in the future ..LOCK THE POST

me 2 15 years plus but i never tire of it sean but i do tire of trivial critique bcos of personell taste in particular in a wants forum.

hear hear, same happened recently on a wants thread for philip wright, fine if u dont like it but why bother commenting on someone else's want?!

The shittest one some people do on here to wants is the 'i've got one but its not for sale'.

grow up no one asked if you had it they asked if it was for sale

Edited April 29, 201015 yr by corbett80

You don't like Flourescent Smogg guys............bloody hell!!

And I'm even more gobsmacked that Mind & Matter was mentioned in the same context............we are all entitled to our opinion, and have different taste but....................FFS!!

Cheers,

Mark R

If it's any consolation Mark, one of the "many" South Yorkshire opinioned rulers of "Look At Your Box" posted Modern Image - Gypsy on Philly 76. Have a listen Mark........................then that is gob smacking .

Everytime a "ultra rare" record is mentioned on SS ,9 times out of 10 it get's torn to shreds ,maybe it's too easy to say it's shite than admit you'll never own one.

Well people who think that way are idiots. Not guilty.

I wonder why we recorded Pokes and Sams sets and not Seans Hehe .

Simon

Can fully understand Fuzzj's comments myself

Everytime a "ultra rare" record is mentioned on SS ,9 times out of 10 it get's torn to shreds ,maybe it's too easy to say it's shite than admit you'll never own one.

I myself would'nt spend the money to own this because my wants list is too long with more affordable records that imo sound better,that does'nt mean this is shite

Also think sometimes people just don't get it when it comes to the rawness of a tune ,instead preferring a more polished performance.

That said it is about personal taste and one man's meat is another mans poison

P.s to the guy who put the want up in the 1st place ..good luck in your search ,and if i may be so bold...to avoid negative comments in the future ..LOCK THE POST

without question brilliant synopsis nev

P.s to the guy who put the want up in the 1st place ..good luck in your search ,and if i may be so bold...to avoid negative comments in the future ..LOCK THE POST

Nah Nev,

The discussion has kept the thread top pile for a couple of days, so that's gotta be good for any wants post!

Sean

Nah Nev,

The discussion has kept the thread top pile for a couple of days, so that's gotta be good for any wants post!

Sean

Point taken Sean

And in fairness it's a posters prerogative to lock his/her post or suffer the consequences

My gripe is people who come on and influence the price . "oh that's a feckin four figure sum" ,but i guess no one who owns this would'nt already know that eh

Happy bank hols and good will to all sourcerers

hear hear, same happened recently on a wants thread for philip wright, fine if u dont like it but why bother commenting on someone else's want?!

Yep. That was me i`m afraid,sorry Ian. But then Phillip Wright is Shite See, it even rhymes

Its only music so i guess we should all lighten up a bit,

Best, Ivor

If it's any consolation Mark, one of the "many" South Yorkshire opinioned rulers of "Look At Your Box" posted Modern Image - Gypsy on Philly 76. Have a listen Mark........................then that is gob smacking .

I THOUGHT I`D POST THAT UP BECAUSE I LIKE IT AND ALWAYS HAVE DONE.IT ALSO CAME FROM GARY SMELT IN THE 90`S.WHEN YOU HAVE 45`S LIKE KING MOSES PLAYED ETC.... I LIKE MIND AND MATTER AND I LIKE FLUORESCENT SMOGG .NOT SURE IF IM READING YOUR POST WRONG BUT IVE NEVER SAID F.S WAS CRAP. IF YOU DONT LIKE THE MODERN IMAGE TUNE IM FINE WITH THAT BUT IF YOUR ABOVE POST IS HOW YOU SEE US IN SOUTH YORKSHIRE THEN THAT IS DISSAPOINTING. I THOUGHT YOU WERE BETTER THAN THAT

DAVE

Edited April 30, 201015 yr by dave pinch

Gary smelt turned up 3 copies i had one,Nigel parker had one and i think the other went to Rod Dearlove.Sold mine to a mate for £150 but got Nigels from him for a similar price(still have this copy and mate still has my old copy).

Gary told me he had a lp by the group on a tape which he tried/thought about releasing but nothing came from this.

Another freind of mine has a picture of the group on a flyer from the US.

Chris.

If you have Nigels just see if it has is initials scratched in the run out,he had a habbit of doing that...lol

paul.

I think it`s a marmite type of tune(you either like it or you don`t)..........I like marmite

Got offered this record 3 years ago,seller wanted a good price but alas i didn`t have the funds .Knew i should have sold me kidney

Edited April 30, 201015 yr by Hammersoul

I think it`s a marmite type of tune(you either like it or you don`t)..........I like marmite

Got offered this record 3 years ago,seller wanted a good price but alas i didn`t have the funds .Knew i should have sold me kidney

"Get that cab out Arbon!"

"Get that cab out Arbon!"

Marmites his sponsor .. hahahaha . Oh hold on its a Pink cab !!

"Get that cab out Arbon!"

That`s a lot of hours i gotta do Gareth .Anyway that`s when the recession kicked in for our trade so i bottled paying the asking price.

Marmites his sponsor .. hahahaha . Oh hold on its a Pink cab !!

That was years ago i had a pink livery,anyway me `sherbet` is black now.

Have you not got a copy Simon?

That`s a lot of hours i gotta do Gareth .Anyway that`s when the recession kicked in for our trade so i bottled paying the asking price.

Marmites his sponsor .. hahahaha . Oh hold on its a Pink cab !!

That was years ago i had a pink livery,anyway me `sherbet` is black now.

Have you not got a copy Simon?

Never really chased it Wayne . I think I asked John right after Sam got it , but theres lots of obscure records to find and play ( as you well know:ph34r: ). Im no trophy hunter like Steve etc :lol:

Edited May 1, 201015 yr by Simon M

You really are taking the Pith now Simon.........

You really are taking the Pith now Simon.........

:hatsoff2:

You know, I stumbled across some old lists[thats what a sad man i am i`m afraid] and this very list from Gary S[ he used to go under the name of Blacknight Records].....He was very cheap to buy from even at the time.....Its funny because there were only 2 records on the list that were expensive[when i say expensive i mean £100]...! well, it was the late 80`s i think so it was expensive in relative terms !......One was F.Smog, the other was MarkIV on Britelite..

Thing was,i knew the F.Smog title from Sam`S Blackbeat reveiw but hadnt actually heard it. Still gives me nightmares

As you can guess from this,i really rate the record. Nothing whatsover to do with its rarity believe me. I reckon its an absolutely Top Class sweet soul record thats as good as any others in that vein that also just happens to be dog rare......Its funny how differently we all see things. Its a shame though i`ll never own one or be able to afford one if it does show upn

Brilliant record....

........Ivor

im sure johnny weston said he was ment to or paid blacknight for a copy £500 but gary became ill & ended up not getting it.sure weston will tell if i got this wrong.met gary @ a glasgow record fair.got a few nice sealed lps off him,tempests(think he just picked up 20 copy of tempests & 20 hesitations biggies lps) for £20 & a few others.my mate was getting his lists & think got a few bargains.

was over 20 years ago i heard the floresent smog & only heard it out twice back then.great being into across the board soul,so i can say i love it.

steve.

Edited May 1, 201015 yr by sepia

Never really chased it Wayne . I think I asked John right after Sam got it , but theres lots of obscure records to find and play ( as you well know:ph34r: ). Im no trophy hunter like Steve etc

I know John A. found a few copies back in the early 80`s where Sam got his,thought you would have one of the lucky ones to have got it also.

I agree there is other obscure records to find that are on par and cheaper which is why i turned it down.Still think it`s a good record .

I know John A. found a few copies back in the early 80`s where Sam got his,thought you would have one of the lucky ones to have got it also.

I agree there is other obscure records to find that are on par and cheaper which is why i turned it down.Still think it`s a good record .

Mid 80's actually . ref' Blackbeat mag

Mid 80's actually . ref' Blackbeat mag

Am I listening to the B side....All My Life?. Run of the mill seventies soul ender.I think they call this Giffer soul these days (mid tempo/down tempo records bought by old men)

Edited May 2, 201015 yr by wiggyflat

Am I listening to the B side....All My Life?. Run of the mill seventies soul ender.I think they call this Giffer soul these days (mid tempo/down tempo records bought by old men)

Yeah Sam was about 50 when he bought the first imported copy ( mid 80's )

If you have Nigels just see if it has is initials scratched in the run out,he had a habbit of doing that...lol

paul.

Yes NJP in the run out,got a couple of others with it also.

Chris.

I know John A. found a few copies back in the early 80`s where Sam got his,thought you would have one of the lucky ones to have got it also.

I agree there is other obscure records to find that are on par and cheaper which is why i turned it down.Still think it`s a good record .

Nah Simon was well down the pecking order then....as now.

John only had the one copy at the time (mid 80s) when Sam got his, and as I said earlier it was so left field I couldn't understand why Sam bought it.

Nah Simon was well down the pecking order then....as now.

John only had the one copy at the time (mid 80s) when Sam got his, and as I said earlier it was so left field I couldn't understand why Sam bought it.

Ha ha Steve , you'll have to get ya Pith Helmet on for some of the Soul Bowl tunes I acquired back then ( Soul Sam rejects mainly )

Edited May 3, 201015 yr by Simon M

Ha ha Steve , you'll have to get ya Pith Helmet on for some of the Soul Bowl tunes I acquired back then ( Soul Sam rejects mainly )

Yup so many tunes around then, none of us had enough money though!

Yup so many tunes around then, none of us had enough money though!

Mr Ellis did

what"s the track on the a-side ?

The YouTube video has disappeared now, unless I'm misspelling it!?

flourescent smog

i used it in my video for gloucester nighter...i was asked to take it off and did

regards moldie

what"s the track on the a-side ?

its,,, little joe and all my life

ok

thx so much...

Not to fan the flames, but Little Joe is allegedly a serious facemelting deep funk side.

Edited November 7, 201113 yr by sperol

Fantastic imo, however, I've never seen a copy listed for sale anywhere??

one sold on ebay while back' i think it was only vg went for big money

i was offered one only 2/3 weeks ago

Hi all, just speaking to Steve Scotney (Steve 71) on here, and we both have this Re issue of Florescent Smog, that came with the Jazzman LP, anyhow both of ours, the labels are reversed, are they all like this, can anybody conform? has anybody got one with labels the right way round?

 

apologies if this has already been discussed, sometimes its just easier to ask again as it were.

 

Mal.C