There I was going through a sales box...oh that's an Unsatisfied on a UK London issue.I bought it...but I have a UK London demo of it.I've a UK London issue of Darrow Fletchers Pain Gets A Little Deeper but I want a yellow demo.I already have the US copy.I bought a UK copy of Hope We Have recently as well... Why do I have to have certain records on UK.Is it a sickness others suffer from.??

There I was going through a sales box...oh that's an Unsatisfied on a UK London issue.I bought it...but I have a UK London demo of it.I've a UK London issue of Darrow Fletchers Pain Gets A Little Deeper but I want a yellow demo.I already have the US copy.I bought a UK copy of Hope We Have recently as well... Why do I have to have certain records on UK.Is it a sickness others suffer from.??

 

YES.

Edited May 16, 201311 yr by denbo

It was - it's not now

CANNOT AFFORD IT NOW BUT I HAVE BOUGHT UK AND US COPIES OF THE SAME RECORD,I TRY TO BECOME MORE SELECTIVE IN WHAT I BUY BUT STILL FALL INTO THE TRAP  I REALLY NEED TO HAVE A CULL AND SORT OUT MY COLLECTION

I know they are classed as 'second issues' by the purists, but I still prefer my British stuff

i used to have a big british collection at one time but havn`t much interest in it now..still got most of me cheap and pop kind of stuff tho

I'm feeling a strong need for this one fron John's auction and I'm not usually affected by the British bug

 

Sorry forget that some can't access pics at work, it's the image of UK Stax yellow demo Darrell Banks, I'm the One who Loves You.

Edited May 16, 201311 yr by Dean

OOooo this one is cause of many a row in this house!

 

I've done this with only a handful of artists that I absolutely adore. Only a few mind!

My other Arf will, on a regular basis, go through every box he has. Then hits on Ebay is search of UK demo's to replace issues and US demo's he already has. He always insists that once he's "upgraded", he will then sell the other US/UK issues US demos and leave himself the perfect UK copy. But he never sells....he hoards them. He doesn't play them. Even when he's secured these treasured items...thats still not good enough. He'll then need one with a perfect label too. I'm not allowed to kill him and to make matters worse, he has now started to collect early reggae too, so with that comes the added pain of Jamaican blanks.

 

He must have spent many thousands of pounds doing this and will continue to spend thousands more...... yet I get a roasting for popping of bottle of cava in the shopping trolley.

OOooo this one is cause of many a row in this house!

 

I've done this with only a handful of artists that I absolutely adore. Only a few mind!

My other Arf will, on a regular basis, go through every box he has. Then hits on Ebay is search of UK demo's to replace issues and US demo's he already has. He always insists that once he's "upgraded", he will then sell the other US/UK issues US demos and leave himself the perfect UK copy. But he never sells....he hoards them. He doesn't play them. Even when he's secured these treasured items...thats still not good enough. He'll then need one with a perfect label too. I'm not allowed to kill him and to make matters worse, he has now started to collect early reggae too, so with that comes the added pain of Jamaican blanks.

 

He must have spent many thousands of pounds doing this and will continue to spend thousands more...... yet I get a roasting for popping of bottle of cava in the shopping trolley.

 

In my opinion, nothing is more of a waste of money than Jamaican blanks.  You could just get a stock copy and rip the label off it, voila!  An original blank.  I rate these as being way way down in the food chain.  Obviously if it's something that actually only came out on a blank then yes, they are a good buy, but otherwise...not for me anyway.

80;s & 90.s i collected lots of british issiues as i had good access to most of the small london shops and there were still bargains to be had, but then dried up and decided to sell to improve my house, what a mistake she's got the house and i got sweet FA,

 

one conselation i've got a fairly reasonable collection now be it a mixed bag of uk usa originals and i'm happy

Edited May 16, 201311 yr by Garry Huxley

I really like Pye and Pye International demos. Would love to one day have all of Maxine Brown's British releases on their demos.....also love finding Australian 60s beat groups on British labels....British quality of vinyl always so much better!  Had about two years of addiction to Aussie label releases before I conceded I couldn't afford it...another long term collecting goal i guess....

Having a range of internationally pressed 45s in the record box is pretty thrilling stuff!

i also love my british! especially the stuff that wasnt released elsewhere, talking of british have you seen the hoagey lands stateside issue on e bay. ill have to start saving

pressing quality tends to better than most us release, imho. 

British collecting never really appealed to me, but the one label that stands out for me is Stateside.

It just looks the part.

I've had a few nice ones on this, Baltimore Band, Condition Red, sounds like Russ Conway or something now, don't suppose it ever get played out either, but I still like it and takes me right back to the Casino.

Also had a nice Bobbi Lynn demo of Earthquake and also had a few of the Darrell Banks over the years, great label, just looks so classic to my my eyes.

 

Aid.

Blanks are often louder and a lot cheaper than a uk press plus i like the rubber shop stamps on them 1st press anyway!

Just love UK Atlantic and London demos...they are a work of art.The split London orange one sided and the green RCA ones are also something else

In my opinion, nothing is more of a waste of money than Jamaican blanks.  You could just get a stock copy and rip the label off it, voila!  An original blank.  I rate these as being way way down in the food chain.  Obviously if it's something that actually only came out on a blank then yes, they are a good buy, but otherwise...not for me anyway.

I totally agree Pete and I've no doubt he'll waste a small fortune doing so. I only ever came close to buying one and that was supposed to be a Rio blank of I Got My Boogaloo. Couldn't risk that kind of money myself and would constantly need to consult experts in this field for authenticity of them.

 

He should just increase the housekeeping (aka my vinyl funds).... A far more worthy cause than JA blanks!  

The split London orange one sided and the green RCA ones are also something else

Yeah, I've got a few of them but please don't ask me which ones. Also seem to remember having some Coral one side Decca the other? Or Brunswick one side, Coral the other?

I know they are classed as 'second issues' by the purists, but I still prefer my British stuff

 

Absolutley british copy everytime .

I'm feeling a strong need for this one fron John's auction and I'm not usually affected by the British bug

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Sorry forget that some can't access pics at work, it's the image of UK Stax yellow demo Darrell Banks, I'm the One who Loves You.

just sold this for £125

pressing quality tends to better than most us release, imho. 

 

I agree,

British releases usually have a longer run-in groove too, this gives an impression of manufacturing quality in my opinion. Lots of American 45s have really short run-ins and just 'grab' the stylus and drag it in with no finesse whatsoever.

No big deal I know, but it's something that has always been apparent to me.

I am an absolute sucker for anything on a British label . I have some of the biggies , but still missing quite a few. I also am addicted to collecting British labels i.e. Sue , Atlantic , Stax , Chess etc.

love British releases issues preferably ,vinyl quality seems to be better than US and it gives that burning question who brought it originally . got plenty of motown , stateside , few polydors etc. though there are still loads more I want and I don't suppose i'll ever have every thing I want , but that won't stop me trying

I've had every record on British that I ever wanted, seriously.  Got hardly any now but had four major collections.  I honestly can't think of anything that I didn't have that I now regret not getting.  That Fork In The Road issue I had last month is rarer than most other UK's, including Darrell Banks, Chapter Five, people just didn't realise it.  But there is just nothing like a British red and white demo to get the pulse racing.

love British releases issues preferably ,vinyl quality seems to be better than US and it gives that burning question who brought it originally . got plenty of motown , stateside , few polydors etc. though there are still loads more I want and I don't suppose i'll ever have every thing I want , but that won't stop me trying

don't really collect uk stuff but have some of the rarer issued releases, which a couple have taken a fair few years to get, but theres one ive have always wanted a chubby checker issue, always been in my top ten.

one day ill get round to buying a copy....maybe before I call it a day

Had Darrell Banks on a Stax demo (mint) and swapped it for Dreamlovers - Bless my Soul  Demo about 15 years ago , didn't want any of that British label shite Doh!!

another Swifty deal !!!

I've had every record on British that I ever wanted, seriously.  Got hardly any now but had four major collections.  I honestly can't think of anything that I didn't have that I now regret not getting.  That Fork In The Road issue I had last month is rarer than most other UK's, including Darrell Banks, Chapter Five, people just didn't realise it.  But there is just nothing like a British red and white demo to get the pulse racing.

 

Hey Pete, ever have a James Carr That's What I Wanna Know Stateside Demo?

Now thats a serious British record to own.

Pretty rare too?? Or have you come across em much on your travels?

 

 

Aid.

Hey Pete, ever have a James Carr That's What I Wanna Know Stateside Demo?

Now thats a serious British record to own.

Pretty rare too?? Or have you come across em much on your travels?

 

 

Aid.

 

remember buying the said named uk stateside album at a car boot for 50p, sold it and a few other rarer uk albums a few years back to johnny fingers

just sold this for £125

I'm betting just about double!

remember buying the said named uk stateside album at a car boot for 50p, sold it and a few other rarer uk albums a few years back to johnny fingers

 

Wow good find that Russ.

Hope you got a good price mate, must be worth a couple of ton or so??

I'd have kept that myself, and I don't collect British, good as it gets I reckon, just an iconic disk on British, couldn't be arsed on Goldwax.

 

Aid.

Hey Pete, ever have a James Carr That's What I Wanna Know Stateside Demo?

Now thats a serious British record to own.

Pretty rare too?? Or have you come across em much on your travels?

 

 

Aid.

 

Yeah it's rare Aid though it's a B side so label is not so attractive LOL

Very rare on demo

Yeah it's rare Aid though it's a B side so label is not so attractive LOL

Very rare on demo

 

Yeah know what you mean Pete, got to have that big red A staring right at you.

Another great British one to own would be Incredibles Nothing Else To Say on Stateside black issue.

I think it's the real Northern standards that are good about owning on British, the stuff we all know, wouldn't understand why anyone would want more obscure stuff on U.S original, if that makes sense?

 

Aid.

It's the big northern early records I like to have on British...got a She Blew A Good Thing on London...worse thing was an ex selling or destroying my UK Dr Love...I have a Us copy but its not the same.I managed to keep the issue of Patrice Holloway.. my mates got the demo.

I'm betting just about double!

oh yes no doubt john will get a good price..mine was vg+ but played as mint......only had the 1 pm for it...did buy an issue in 1990 from doncaster ywca record fair for £1...happy days

It's the big northern early records I like to have on British...got a She Blew A Good Thing on London...worse thing was an ex selling or destroying my UK Dr Love...I have a Us copy but its not the same.I managed to keep the issue of Patrice Holloway.. my mates got the demo.

had patrice holloway uk issue and demo....i think issue is rarer tho

Hey Pete, ever have a James Carr That's What I Wanna Know Stateside Demo?

Now thats a serious British record to own.

Pretty rare too?? Or have you come across em much on your travels?

 

 

Aid.

One in the Bentley household

had patrice holloway uk issue and demo....i think issue is rarer tho

Interesting - I need to do some research. Always thought the demo was rarer?

Interesting - I need to do some research. Always thought the demo was rarer?

just my experience..others may differ

just my experience..others may differ

Just had a peek on popsike.

 

12 r/w demos and only 3 issues - you could well be right!

had patrice holloway uk issue and demo....i think issue is rarer tho

 

It is, definitely.

Had most of the stuff in the 80s when you couldn't give them away. A couple that did elude me though:

 

Roy Hamilton - The Panic Is On - MGM Demo (Missed one at a London Record Fair when Mick Atherton picked it up, at least I think it was Dave - May have been Dave Withers). .

 

Wayne Fontana - Give Me Just a Little More Time - Phillips ISSUE

 

Fathers Angels - Bok to Bach - MGM ISSUE

 

Regards,

 

Dave

Had most of the stuff in the 80s when you couldn't give them away. A couple that did elude me though:

 

Roy Hamilton - The Panic Is On - MGM Demo (Missed one at a London Record Fair when Mick Atherton picked it up, at least I think it was Dave - May have been Dave Withers). .

 

Wayne Fontana - Give Me Just a Little More Time - Phillips ISSUE

 

Fathers Angels - Bok to Bach - MGM ISSUE

 

Regards,

 

Dave

Hi Dave

I have a Wayne Fontana issue

Am told there's a Hoagy lands issue on ebay for £800.

Well it ain't worth that.  It's certainly mega-rare, rarer than the demo, but who'd want to pay that for an issue when they could buy a demo for £500?

I had one with a slight bump on the edge, wonder who's got that now?

One of the rarest Stateside issues has to be Sharon Soul - How Can I Get To You.  Only ever had one copy of this and never seen another.  In fact only ever seen one demo in the flesh.

Another super rare issue is John Drevars on yellow MGM, only seen one of those as well.

I agree,

British releases usually have a longer run-in groove too, this gives an impression of manufacturing quality in my opinion. Lots of American 45s have really short run-ins and just 'grab' the stylus and drag it in with no finesse whatsoever.

No big deal I know, but it's something that has always been apparent to me.

 

The british copys always do seem to be better just better quality control better sound quality I love my british too

 

One of the rarest Stateside issues has to be Sharon Soul - How Can I Get To You.  Only ever had one copy of this and never seen another.  In fact only ever seen one demo in the flesh.

 

 

 

I've got a demo but some Dingbat has knocked the middle out...

The british copys always do seem to be better just better quality control better sound quality I love my british too

 

 

Not always - quite a few British 45s were dubbed from disc, so suffer from low sound / poor sound quality.

 

First off top of my head is Loretta Williams Baby Cakes.

Not always - quite a few British 45s were dubbed from disc, so suffer from low sound / poor sound quality.

 

First off top of my head is Loretta Williams Baby Cakes.

 

Yep there's also Dee Dee Sharp on red Atlantic which is terrible quality.

And I'd say 75% of all Jamaican records issued in the UK in the 60's were dubbed off disc.  Even on some mint copies you can hear surface noise from the original source.

remember buying the said named uk stateside album at a car boot for 50p, sold it and a few other rarer uk albums a few years back to johnny fingers

 

Still got that album, and a Soul Sisters' album on Sue......bought 'em about '76 off Bill Honney (used to be a "junior" dj at the Wheel).

British collecting never really appealed to me, but the one label that stands out for me is Stateside.

It just looks the part.

I've had a few nice ones on this, Baltimore Band, Condition Red, sounds like Russ Conway or something now, don't suppose it ever get played out either, but I still like it and takes me right back to the Casino.

Also had a nice Bobbi Lynn demo of Earthquake and also had a few of the Darrell Banks over the years, great label, just looks so classic to my my eyes.

 

Aid.

 

 

Got the condition red mint stateside issiue back in about 1998 in a box of run of the mill 70;s british soul invictus etc, it booked at £90, 8 months later i sold it for £25,

was glad to get rid but still made a proffit as the box only cost £5, 

at the time the scooter scene were still mad about chairman of board & sold quite a few for more than that.

Just goes to show the books are only a guide not a bible.

Am told there's a Hoagy lands issue on ebay for £800.

Well it ain't worth that.  It's certainly mega-rare, rarer than the demo, but who'd want to pay that for an issue when they could buy a demo for £500?

I had one with a slight bump on the edge, wonder who's got that now?

One of the rarest Stateside issues has to be Sharon Soul - How Can I Get To You.  Only ever had one copy of this and never seen another.  In fact only ever seen one demo in the flesh.

Another super rare issue is John Drevars on yellow MGM, only seen one of those as well.

I have a HL on Stateside issue. It has a r/w 'not for sale' Demonstration Copy sticker attached. Does this count as an issue or a demo?

I've had every record on British that I ever wanted, seriously.  Got hardly any now but had four major collections.  I honestly can't think of anything that I didn't have that I now regret not getting.  That Fork In The Road issue I had last month is rarer than most other UK's, including Darrell Banks, Chapter Five, people just didn't realise it.  But there is just nothing like a British red and white demo to get the pulse racing.

Even a Billy Harner instrumental?