My thanks go to the good Glen Walker-Foster for digging these out of his archive and giving them to me at a recent gig in Lytham St-Annes. I haven't seen this list since the mid 70s but, boy, did I have some incredible records back then.......

 

 

Ian D 

Can you remember how much you raised for this lot back then Ian.  Would be worth a good few quid today that's for sure some real Bertie's in that lot. 

Can you remember how much you raised for this lot back then Ian.  Would be worth a good few quid today that's for sure some real Bertie's in that lot. 

 

I think I raised about £2,500 from memory but that was quite a lot of money back then (the average wage was probably £50 a week then). 

 

I haven't had the heart to add 'em up at today's prices! 

 

Ian D 

Nice and understated as usual mate.....I see nothing's changed! LOL

Cheers,

Mark R

What a fantastic set of records. I'll take the Matt Lucas if you still have it? Doubt anyone will ever see the Salvadors, Tobi Legend and the Professionals up for sale on the same list ever again and certainly not listed consecutively at the end of a list. Do you ever regret selling them Ian?

Nice and understated as usual mate.....I see nothing's changed! LOL

Cheers,

Mark R

 

My aptitude for promotional bullshit knew no bounds, even back in '75.......

 

Ian D 

What a fantastic set of records. I'll take the Matt Lucas if you still have it? Doubt anyone will ever see the Salvadors, Tobi Legend and the Professionals up for sale on the same list ever again and certainly not listed consecutively at the end of a list. Do you ever regret selling them Ian?

 

No, not really. I mean obviously everybody would like to keep their collections intact forever but that particular collection got me to the U.S. for 6 months, got me into the music biz at a pretty good level, got me a million-selling record and introduced me to so many great people who I'll never forget. It also got me into the Motown library and numerous U.S. record collections and allowed me to travel all over the U.S. at the age of 21. Plus I managed to get most of those records back for mere cents plus thousands more in my subsequent collection, so arguably it was the best decision I ever made.

 

Ian D   

So all these crazy auction prices are down to you, you started it all

My aptitude for promotional bullshit knew no bounds, even back in '75.......

 

Ian D 

 

 

Thank heavens your spelling's improved since then though!

I think I raised about £2,500 from memory but that was quite a lot of money back then (the average wage was probably £50 a week then). 

 

I haven't had the heart to add 'em up at today's prices! 

 

Ian D 

Ian

WOW!! What a list.

£2,500 =23,291.73 in today's money

Calculator is here if you want to have a play..........

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-1633409/Historic-inflation-calculator-value-money-changed-1900.html

Cheers

Martyn

Great reading Ian.Pop the list in the NS 1975 Time capsule.!!!

Just for reference I use to work for a building company in south London in 1976 my weekly pay was £44

That is one mental list of rare soul……and, in 1976 ! 

 Have you still got Billy Woods & the Del Larks …..

So all these crazy auction prices are down to you, you started it all

 

You know what Chalky? I never even thought of that. It could be that it was the first ever Northern Soul auction list, now I think about it. I can't remember any that pre-date 1975. Most lists up to then were fixed-price. Oh my God. What did I start....? 

 

Ian D 

Thank heavens your spelling's improved since then though!

 

Hey have you ever tried using a manual typewriter from the early 70s? Plus I couldn't type either. I was self-taught so the amount of f*ck-ups to even get it to that stuff was huge. If you look at the first page of records, there was even a bit of physical cut and pasting going on. I'm not sure if Tippex had even been invented back then........

 

Ian D 

You know what Chalky? I never even thought of that. It could be that it was the first ever Northern Soul auction list, now I think about it. I can't remember any that pre-date 1975. Most lists up to then were fixed-price. Oh my God. What did I start....? 

 

Ian D 

 

seriously great list though.

Ian

Can you remember any of the prices you either bought them for or sold them for please?

I understand that might be asking too much after 40 years

Cheers

Martyn

I kept re-reading the list - Diane Jenkins and Bobby Womack - May 75?  Then I read the intro on the actual list - 3 May '76!!

 

Mike

 

ps Ian - I pm'ed you on another matter but I don't think you have read it!

Ian

WOW!! What a list.

£2,500 =23,291.73 in today's money

Calculator is here if you want to have a play..........

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-1633409/Historic-inflation-calculator-value-money-changed-1900.html

Cheers

Martyn

 

Sounds about right. I lived a very-full life in the second-half of 1976. New York, L.A., Frisco, and Philly were all done in a certain amount of style. I was out most nights checking the clubs and I spent most of my time in Beverly Hills trying to pull Diana Ross lol. Plus hanging out with Soussan and Ike Turner required back-up 'cos I never knew where I might end-up. I got stranded in San Diego, East L.A., San Franciso and Redondo Beach to think of a few places and different situations. I always had enough back-up to crawl back to my Hollywood pad though........

 

I had nights-out over there that cost me at least a Billy Woods or Del-Larks! 

 

Ian D 

That is one mental list of rare soul……and, in 1976 ! 

 Have you still got Billy Woods & the Del Larks …..

 

If only, Ivor, if only...........

 

Ian D 

You know what Chalky? I never even thought of that. It could be that it was the first ever Northern Soul auction list, now I think about it. I can't remember any that pre-date 1975. Most lists up to then were fixed-price. Oh my God. What did I start....? 

 

Ian D 

I remember getting lists from somebody who called themselves 'Soul Control' in 1971, they used to auction records but I don't think anything went for more than about £2.

Sounds about right. I lived a very-full life in the second-half of 1976. New York, L.A., Frisco, and Philly were all done in a certain amount of style. I was out most nights checking the clubs and I spent most of my time in Beverly Hills trying to pull Diana Ross lol. Plus hanging out with Soussan and Ike Turner required back-up 'cos I never knew where I might end-up. I got stranded in San Diego, East L.A., San Franciso and Redondo Beach to think of a few places and different situations. I always had enough back-up to crawl back to my Hollywood pad though........

 

I had nights-out over there that cost me at least a Billy Woods or Del-Larks! 

 

Ian D 

Ian

There must be a book in there surely

Cheers

Martyn

Ian

Can you remember any of the prices you either bought them for or sold them for please?

I understand that might be asking too much after 40 years

Cheers

Martyn

 

Well, the most I ever remember paying for a record back then was £40 which was for the Tomangoes. Most of the records on that list were bought from 10p to probably £5 or £10 quid. Prices were beginning to rise and I was finding it increasingly more expensive to even buy 'unknowns'. I was doing Wigan, Sams, Cleethorpes and the Central most weeks plus all-dayers every Sunday and other spots dotted around, so I was fairly high-profile so that always added a premium if I wanted a record badly enough. I bought Al De Lory as an unknown in Peterborough and that cost me £12 which I thought was expensive at the time.

 

I remember selling Lada Edmund Jr for £90.00, I think, to a guy who'd never even heard the record and who drove up from Milton Keynes and insisted in looking at it alone in my kitchen. Plain weird.....

 

Ian D 

Ian

There must be a book in there surely

Cheers

Martyn

 

Just gotta get time to write the sucker..... 

 

This Northern Soul resurgence is keeping me too busy in the day job.....

 

Ian D 

Edited April 6, 201510 yr by Ian Dewhirst

Just gotta get time to write the sucker..... 

 

This Northern Soul resurgence is keeping me too busy in the day job.....

 

Ian D 

 

hope this happens, as i never tire of reading your stories, and memories 

Ian

WOW!! What a list.

£2,500 =23,291.73 in today's money

Calculator is here if you want to have a play..........

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-1633409/Historic-inflation-calculator-value-money-changed-1900.html

Cheers

Martyn

And the bloody rest to buy them now!

Edited April 6, 201510 yr by JulianB

And the bloody rest to buy them now!

 

I dare not add 'em up Julian. Looks like maybe £100K or so...?

 

Ian D 

Four Tracks - Charade !

You had great taste mate to see that one in the future, 40 yrs down the line and still a cracker !

Right on soul brother................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I kept re-reading the list - Diane Jenkins and Bobby Womack - May 75?  Then I read the intro on the actual list - 3 May '76!!

 

Mike

 

ps Ian - I pm'ed you on another matter but I don't think you have read it!

 

Hi Mike,

 

I did read it and I'm checking it out this week mate! New one on me and I may have to do some digging.....

 

Ian D 

Hi Mike,

 

I did read it and I'm checking it out this week mate! New one on me and I may have to do some digging.....

 

Ian D 

Many thanks Ian...

Remember the list well Ian, particularly the first page

As a kid at the time, i used it as a bit of a bible for a bit.

I'm sure i made some bids but didn't get owt off you, i think my paper round wasn't paying quite that much back then LOL

Remember finding quantity of Heinsight a few years later (third on the list and as you said a complete one-off at the time?) and thought i'd struck gold....................

Many thanks for posting this up, great memories

Cheers

Steve

Edited April 7, 201510 yr by Steve Plumb

Also the Intrepids as an unknown,what a record ,still underplayed?

 

Steve

 

ps i thought i had the Fabulous Downbeats off you in a swap at Cleethorpes for the Chaumonts?(or you had another)

 

I'd completely forgotten about that Intrepids track until I re-read the list. Just reminded myself of it on You Tube and stunned to see it on a pre-Cotillion label.......great name for a label though!

 

The Intrepids - To Make You Love Me  Nite Beat

 

And the Chaumonts sounds feasible as I did have that for a while......

 

Ian D 

Edited April 7, 201510 yr by Ian Dewhirst

Remember the list well Ian, particularly the first page

As a kid at the time, i used it as a bit of a bible for a bit.

I'm sure i made some bids but didn't get owt off you, i think my paper round wasn't paying quite that much back then LOL

Remember finding quantity of Heinsight a few years later (third on the list and as you said a complete one-off at the time?) and thought i'd struck gold....................

Many thanks for posting this up, great memories

Cheers

Steve

 

Actually, that Heinsight record sounds better now then it did back then. A nice funky approach to an all-time classic which would probably sort today's audience more than the mid 70s one.

 

I wish someone would dig out my Vinyl Junky record list/book. That was 60+ pages from memory.........

 

Ian D 

Edited April 7, 201510 yr by Ian Dewhirst

Nice and understated as usual mate.....I see nothing's changed! LOL

Cheers,

Mark R

 

If Carlsberg did record auctions......

 

 

I wish someone would dig out my Vinyl Junky record list/book. That was 60+ pages from memory.........

 

Ian D 

 

Ive still got that somewhere will try and dig it out.

Ive still got that somewhere will try and dig it out.

 

That's a lot of scanning Steve! It'd be interesting to see what future crossover gems were on there for mere pence though, as painful as that could be........  

 

Ian D   

Hey have you ever tried using a manual typewriter from the early 70s? Plus I couldn't type either. I was self-taught so the amount of f*ck-ups to even get it to that stuff was huge. If you look at the first page of records, there was even a bit of physical cut and pasting going on. I'm not sure if Tippex had even been invented back then........

 

Ian D 

I swallowed a whole bottle of Tippex last night Frank....woke up with a massive correction

Actually, that Heinsight record sounds better now then it did back then. A nice funky approach to an all-time classic which would probably sort today's audience more than the mid 70s one.

 

I wish someone would dig out my Vinyl Junky record list/book. That was 60+ pages from memory.........

 

Ian D 

Now the vinyl junkie list was a work of art Ian - listed records in that a5 booklet size blue colour paper on the front if memory serves right. A plethora of 70 's unknowns in there - Sy Hightower ? and lots of 70 's indie 45's that were not on any one's radar at that time. Remember studying the titles for hours amazed at the quantity of unknowns.  Am i right in thinking it was all up for sale due to pending financial problems .....Vinyl junkie an apt title Ian - doubt you were the only one  in that predicament .....

Now the vinyl junkie list was a work of art Ian - listed records in that a5 booklet size blue colour paper on the front if memory serves right. A plethora of 70 's unknowns in there - Sy Hightower ? and lots of 70 's indie 45's that were not on any one's radar at that time. Remember studying the titles for hours amazed at the quantity of unknowns.  Am i right in thinking it was all up for sale due to pending financial problems .....Vinyl junkie an apt title Ian - doubt you were the only one  in that predicament .....

It wasn't particularly financial problems as I've had those all my life lol. It was lack of space problems morr than anything. I had to climb over 3 rows of albums to get into bed and 1000s of 45s were stacked in the cupboard under the stairs (much like now). I was a vinyl junky for a long long time.....

Ian D

Ian

WOW!! What a list.

£2,500 =23,291.73 in today's money

Calculator is here if you want to have a play..........

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-1633409/Historic-inflation-calculator-value-money-changed-1900.html

Cheers

Martyn

 

No thanks Martyn. It'll just depress me......

 

Ian D 

The typing was pretty immaculate Ian - did you do this? To achieve this standard of formatting on a word processor today, still needs a bit of skill.