How the hell does he do it Velvettes at £400+ and thats just one example

One thing occurs to me about JM's current auction: Johnny Summers "I'm Still Yours" at less than "Dearly Beloved." Does someone out there know something I don't?

John`s never done much wrong in my book either. His records may seem more expensive but his service has always been quick and reliable. And the grading of his stuff is accurate.If he states anything`s mint-you can be sure it is. And I don`t mind paying a little extra if everything`s right...But he has done a few things wrong in my book..like selling that cottonpickin` price guide to the Americans..and ruining it for us over here...Would we have all these attempted scams by Americans on eBay for records that don`t exist otherwise? No of course not..We`d still be buying records from the States (like my avatar) for next to nothing instead of for thousands.....Our buddies from the States are ready for us now......  

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why shoudnt he sell is price guides to any one ? he is a buisness man so why shoudnt he make money on his books ,will the yanks buy is english price guide which shoul;d be out in a couple off weeks ,and if they are i will be selling them at stafford 30aprill

spanner [not just krs m8 but jms 2

THE OLD MASTERCARD AND THE SEXY VISA HAS MADE ITS MARK IN THE NORTHERN WORLD FOLKS AS WE ALL KNOW,I`VE DONE IT MYSELF FOR THAT ELUSIVE SOUND.IT CAN BE A BIT SORE AND A BIT RE-DIK-A-LUS,BUT ITS OUR OWN PREFERECE WHAT WAY WE SPEND OUR HARD EARNED CASH,SOMETIMES ITS A CASE OF WHAT HAVE I DONE.WE`VE AW BEEN THEIR AT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER.

NORTHERN SOUL IS WHAT KEEPS US COLLECTING WITH SUCH PASSION,I COULD BE WRONG.ITS NOT THE DEALERS FAULT,WE COULD SAY NO JUST LIKE ZAMMO.

ANDY D

John's got Jerry Naylor up on auction at the moment £339 (glad I beat a lot of you to Kennys sales list a few months ago)

Also Ed Bruce - I'm Gonna Have A Party - Wand, going to be interesting to see what this goes for after we discussed it on here a while ago

Great idea. Can you find me a Chapter 5 please? He's got one on there at the moment.

Nail on the head. He does get hard to find records, if you have the cash why wait a year or more until another one comes up?

And you know that if it says mint it's going to be just that.

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Have only ever heard this played out by Denny Johnson and Terry Davis, brilliant record

John's got Jerry Naylor up on auction at the moment £339 (glad I beat a lot of you to Kennys sales list a few months ago) 

Also Ed Bruce - I'm Gonna Have A Party - Wand, going to be interesting to see what this goes for after we discussed it on here a while ago

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Jerry Naylor was on e-bay not so long ago...went for a about £70 if I remember rightly, nearly bought it myself to sell on

Jerry Naylor was on e-bay not so long ago...went for a about £70 if I remember rightly, nearly bought it myself to sell on 

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Ed Bruce was on ebay a year or so back.

Jerry Naylor was on e-bay not so long ago...went for a about £70 if I remember rightly, nearly bought it myself to sell on 

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Bet you wished you had now

Ed Bruce was on ebay a year or so back.

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Be interesting to see what this one reaches on John's auction, any idea what that one went for?

Bet you wished you had now 

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Not really, records come and go...there's always more if you miss out on one or let one go.

Be interesting to see what this one reaches on John's auction, any idea what that one went for?

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From memory Janine it was c. $500. Which would equate to about £275

From memory Janine it was c. $500. Which would equate to about £275

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Sorry Steve.... but I always thought Manship's auctions were in ££££'s anyway.... unless he's now on the dot-com US sites as well and has linked it to his dot-co-dot-uk (a la ebay)....

So is that 500 in ££££'s or $$$$'s.... ....

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Sorry Steve.... but I always thought Manship's auctions were in ££££'s anyway.... unless he's now on the dot-com US sites as well and has linked it to his dot-co-dot-uk (a la ebay)....

So is that 500 in ££££'s or $$$$'s.... ....

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" Derrrrrrrrrrrrr" ?

" Derrrrrrrrrrrrr" ? 

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.... what's "der" about that post Steve.... the guy's quoting $$$$'s for JM's auctions when they're all done in ££££'s....

If it's £500 then it's well overpriced for Ed Bruce - I'm Gonna Have A Party (Wand) but not perhaps a JM auction.... if it's $500 (£275) then it's quite cheap for a normal JM auction....

.... what's "der" about that post Steve.... the guy's quoting $$$$'s for JM's auctions when they're all done in ££££'s....

If it's £500 then it's well overpriced for Ed Bruce - I'm Gonna Have A Party (Wand) but not perhaps a JM auction.... if it's $500 (£275) then it's quite cheap for a normal JM auction....

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One of us has read the thread wrongly Mark.

If its me, I apologise. (But I think its You )

according to his guide the last one he auctioned before his guide was published was £310

One of us has read the thread wrongly Mark.

If its me, I apologise. (But I think its You )

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I read it, Steve, as Janine asking for a finishing price on Ed Bruce on JM's auction and Steve replying with a price in $$$$'s.... so was querying the $$$$'s answer when JM deals in ££££'s.... if I've missed summat then I'm a twat .... if not then couldn't understand the "der" bit ....

Sod it.... summat to eat and a re-read of full full thread for me ....

I read it, Steve, as Janine asking for a finishing price on Ed Bruce on JM's auction and Steve replying with a price in $$$$'s.... so was querying the $$$$'s answer when JM deals in ££££'s.... if I've missed summat then I'm a twat .... if not then couldn't understand the "der" bit ....

Sod it.... summat to eat and a re-read of full full thread for me   ....

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Gracious in defeat, as ever

Steve

Gracious in defeat, as ever 

Steve

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So it's YOU who should read the thread properly .... mind you it's a bit late in the day for you to be "online" .... unless you've now got a PC at home now or you're "working late" ....

Luv you bro ....

So it's YOU who should read the thread properly   .... mind you it's a bit late in the day for you to be "online" .... unless you've now got a PC at home now or you're "working late"   ....

Luv you bro ....

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Mark,

Start with Steve G's post today at 6.52pm.

Steve

Mark,

Start with Steve G's post today at 6.52pm.

Steve

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.... you do know 4+4=5 in my house Steve .... well that's my excuse mate apart from the fact I've been in "ale house" last 3 hours and it's taking me an age to type at the mo ....

Apologies going your way mate ....

p.s. note to self.... read the f**** threads properly before replying .... end of note ....

.... you do know 4+4=5 in my house Steve   .... well that's my excuse mate apart from the fact I've been in "ale house" last 3 hours and it's taking me an age to type at the mo   ....

Apologies going your way mate ....

p.s. note to self.... read the f**** threads properly before replying .... end of note ....

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No don't that was funny

.... you do know 4+4=5 in my house Steve   .... well that's my excuse mate apart from the fact I've been in "ale house" last 3 hours and it's taking me an age to type at the mo   ....

Apologies going your way mate ....

p.s. note to self.... read the f**** threads properly before replying .... end of note ....

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Stooped pi**ed i think is the Lincolnshire term

Stooped pi**ed i think is the Lincolnshire term

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You guys all OK on this now?

John's got Jerry Naylor up on auction at the moment £339 (glad I beat a lot of you to Kennys sales list a few months ago) 

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I didn't see your ears bleeding at Cleethorpes the other week

Have only ever heard this played out by Denny Johnson and Terry Davis, brilliant record

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Jimmy Eddleston often played at the Con Club in Lincoln 94ish - and also I think at early Wiltons before they drew the curtains across

Have only ever heard this played out by Denny Johnson and Terry Davis, brilliant record

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Had a heart stopping moment with my copy of Chapter 5 many years ago at a Mod weekender on the Isle of Wight.

Was DJing whilst p*ssed (not the norm for me.... ) and for some reason picked my copy up off the deck as it had just finished and threw it spinning into the air about 3 or 4 feet high....intending to catch it as it came back down (don't ask why I did this cus I honestly don't know !)

Anyway, didn't catch it, but watched horrified as it landed on it's edge, between my feet onto the carpet, and rolled under the decks and onto a full dancefloor.

Managed to fling music off in a nano second and shout 'Stand still, nobody move' to a bemused audience as it weaved its way, unharmed through countless legs and feet. :

Retrieved the bugger from said dancefloor, and returned it to the safety of my playbox, where it still sits today.

I have obviously never repeated this insane trick since...........though I do still get p*ssed occasionaly whilst DJing....

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I know people who've sold through him... and I've purchased off the auction.....

I recently sent him some items, and he must have a rack of things to auction, cos thay ain't gone up yet....

If he was auctioning phantom records, then surely mine would have been up for sale earlier... after all 10% of my final price is better than bogger all....

WOOF!

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I SENT HIM 20 RECORDS AND LIKE YOU STILL WAITING FOR THEM TO GO,

BUT MAJESTICS HE GOT £440 FOR ME

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I didn't see your ears bleeding at Cleethorpes the other week

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Ear plug's I was ill just as the act came on and spent the rest of the do in the car sleeping

I´ve known John since ´75 always has had top sounds to sell,not only that but always has loads of unknowns if you can be bothered to take the trouble to sit and search through,saves the time(and cost) of flying to the states!

Steve you've got it nailed on mate, loads of unknowns (well to me). I've picked up bundles of semi knowns and reasonably priced records from John Manship, never bothered with the auction, seems to be (as has already been mentioned) certain items go for strange prices. Still maintain with a bit of detective work either through lists or www and of course getting out and about and simply spending time looking at records, be it at nights/nighters or just visiting used record shops i can occasionally turn up things on my wanted list for the right price.

Brett

No don't that was funny   

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Could be a few more Janine as off for two weeks so there'll be one or two "afters sessions" and no doubt will forget "note to self" ....

Great idea. Can you find me a Chapter 5 please? He's got one on there at the moment.

Nail on the head. He does get hard to find records, if you have the cash why wait a year or more until another one comes up?

And you know that if it says mint it's going to be just that.

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Why is this record so highly regarded? Is it a "Mod" sound? They sound white to me.

With regard to finding records - surely now as a result of THE AUCTION the records to a certain extent find him - many people have admitted to sending him stuff to auction - causing quite a backlog of desirable records waiting their place in the sun. Makes you wonder - when a particular record comes up for auction how many further copies are waiting for the underbidders? Or perhaps I'm being overly cynical.

Those with the money obviously get what they want - this is life, not just record collecting. But it just takes the fun out of it. Ferreting about either on the internet or in shops is part and parcel of the whole experience as far as I'm concerned.

Re. Manship & condition. In my experience: Mint - Fine, Mint Minus - OK(ish), Anything else: Caveat Emptor.

Why is this record so highly regarded? Is it a "Mod" sound? They sound white to me.

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Just one of those white sounds played on the Northern scene years ago. The band are from Barrow In Furness apparently and also recorded a substandard version of One In A Million.

BTW anyone know what the Tiffanies went for? I nearly put one on ebay last year, but thought it probably wouldn't reach what I would want for it.

Paul

Had a heart stopping moment with my copy of Chapter 5 many years ago at a Mod weekender on the Isle of Wight.

Was DJing whilst p*ssed (not the norm for me.... ) and for some reason picked my copy up off the deck as it had just finished and threw it spinning into the air about 3 or 4 feet high....intending to catch it as it came back down (don't ask why I did this cus I honestly don't know !) 

Anyway, didn't catch it, but watched horrified as it landed on it's edge, between my feet onto the carpet, and rolled under the decks and onto a full dancefloor.

Managed to fling music off in a nano second and shout 'Stand still, nobody move' to a bemused audience as it weaved its way, unharmed through countless legs and feet.  :  

Retrieved the bugger from said dancefloor, and returned it to the safety of my playbox, where it still sits today.

I have obviously never repeated this insane trick since...........though I do still get p*ssed occasionaly whilst DJing....

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Did the same thing at a youth club in the early 73 when I spun the record in the air, my seat tipped back, the record hit the floor and the chair leg came back down straight onto the vinyl. Fortunately it was only Bob Kuban "The Cheater" on UK Bell, but as a 14 year old I was pretty upset. I have got over it now.

Paul

Why is this record so highly regarded? Is it a "Mod" sound? They sound white to me.

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Probably because it's expensive They are white and from Barrow In Furness Shite IMO.

Probably because it's expensive    They are white and from Barrow In Furness    Shite IMO.

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Chalky - that's a cynical view Surely people on the scene buy records for quality reasons rather than their rarity. I'm amazed to hear that this may not always be the case! I think I've heard it all now - Detroit, Chicago, Memphis, New York, Cumbria!

Keep it real!

Chalky - that's a cynical view   Surely people on the scene buy records for quality reasons rather than their rarity.  I'm amazed to hear that this may not always be the case! I think I've heard it all now - Detroit, Chicago, Memphis, New York, Cumbria!

Keep it real!

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Me? cynical? I've heard many a dj play shite records just because they are rare and expensive so by this I presume some records are just interesting to some because of the price tag

Chalky - that's a cynical view   Surely people on the scene buy records for quality reasons rather than their rarity.  I'm amazed to hear that this may not always be the case! I think I've heard it all now - Detroit, Chicago, Memphis, New York, Cumbria!

Keep it real!

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keep it real???????????????????

hi john

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Me? cynical?    I've heard many a dj play shite records just because they are rare and expensive so by this I presume some records are just interesting to some because of the price tag   

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Maybe it's time for a new thread - The Emperor's New Clothes - A Top Ten Super Rare Soul Sounds that are in fact overrated rubbish - What the hell - I'm going to start one! Should be interesting to see the fur fly!

Maybe it's time for a new thread - The Emperor's New Clothes - A Top Ten Super Rare Soul Sounds that are in fact overrated rubbish - What the hell - I'm going to start one! Should be interesting to see the fur fly!

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rarest of the rare John?

keep it real???????????????????

hi john

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Sorry, couldn't find an "ironic" or "sarcastic" Smiley to go with that phrase. Who is this John of which you speak?

How the hell does he do it Velvettes at £400+ and thats just one example  

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With an hour to go on this weeks auction, a Tobi Legend demo is already at £595.

Same bidder (who appears to buy a lot off John) is leading the John Bowie bidding at £315.

Same bidder (who appears to buy a lot off John) is leading the John Bowie bidding at £315.

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how odd

sure it's all above board though

how odd

sure it's all above board though

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Didn't mean it like that Dan. Meant a regular buyer. Also buys on Ebay

Steve

ps any other classy records to sell me ?

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Didn't mean it like that Dan. Meant a regular buyer. Also buys on Ebay 

Steve

ps any other classy records to sell me ?

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oops sorry steve

shouldn't drag you into my cynical world!

as for records, wish i had after your prompt payment last time. dream deal, my missus was able to go shopping at the weekend after all!

oops sorry steve

shouldn't drag you into my cynical world!

as for records, wish i had after your prompt payment last time. dream deal, my missus was able to go shopping at the weekend after all!

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Mine wasn't

Jimmy Eddleston often played at the Con Club in Lincoln 94ish - and also I think at early Wiltons before they drew the curtains across

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Was played by myself at The Sounds of Soul do,s at Leigh Legion & Earlstown

Irish Club 88--92

IAN C

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Didn't see tonight's closing prices - what did Tobi Legend go for in the end?

Nick

Didn't see tonight's closing prices - what did Tobi Legend go for in the end?

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Think it was something like 595