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This thread really got me motivated to play a few tunes earlier from those halcyon days

Truth..."Coming Home"

The Dells..."Your Song"

Marva Hicks..."Looking over my Shoulder"

Randy Brown..."I'm always in the mood"

Tommy Tate..."You taught me how to love"

Charles Mann..."Shonuff no funny stuff love"

Dustin Wilson..."Sympathy"

Daybreak..."I need love"

Peabo Bryson..."Why don't you make up your mind"

Bobby King..."If you don't want my love"

Bobby Thurston..."Just ask me"

Elusion..."Living on the verge of leaving"

Champaign..."If one more morning"

Leon Bryant..."Mighty body"

Mike Jemison..."You'll never get my love"

JT Brown..."Like taking candy from a baby"

Al Johnson..."I'ts not too late"

Charles Johnson..."Never had a love so good"

Wilson Pickett..."How will i ever know"

I was really going for it with the likes of Curtis,The Softones,Billy Nicholls,Cheryl Berdell and Larry Houston pulled up when my grandson arrived to put an end to the spot.

Was the modern scene ever as good as those early days?, not for me, gotta tell you i shed a few tears playin' those tunes, tears of joy and elation that those records still give me all these years later.

OH! HAPPY DAYS.

the thing is that nowadays you could "re-activate" half of the above and they would be new sounds to half the audience. only the tip of the iceberg too as lots more to go at. they were great then and i'm sure wud sound great today coming out of the decks.

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i went out with pam for a bit. the mixed race lad was probably louis, whats ur name?

I assume this is Paul Collinson, if so good to hear from you, your name has come up in conversation a number of times over years, I am very friendly with Cheryl, originally from Selby, who you knew.

You and Kieth (?) from Keighley were among my original musical mentors, long time ago mate. so thanks for that (I think!). Hope you are well.

At last someone else on here who went to Wigan Tiffs instead of the Casino's extra night, do you remember that? More DJ's than people but what music.

Cheers

Jock O'Connor

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Careful now Guys.....

We don't want to ruin everyones preconcieived stereotypes by talking about "Wigan" and "Modern" in the same sentence........ :lol:

Brilliant Answer

and l aint shouting ok

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Careful now Guys.....

We don't want to ruin everyones preconcieived stereotypes by talking about "Wigan" and "Modern" in the same sentence........ :lol:

why not they got played at wigan and are part of its HISTORY, richard searling and soul sam to of the biggest modern djs ever

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why not they got played at wigan and are part of its HISTORY, richard searling and soul sam to of the biggest modern djs ever

:D:shhh::D ....... sorry Fella, just my poor attempt at a bit of reverse Humour :lol:

Many people subscribe to the stereotype that Wigan was inhabited by a bunch of knuckle dragging Neandertals in Fancy dress who only ever went to Station Rd to worship at the alter that was Frank Wilson, even though the Casino played a big part in the early Modern scene - as is evident in the above playlists :D

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:D:shhh::D ....... sorry Fella, just my poor attempt at a bit of reverse Humour :lol:

Many people subscribe to the stereotype that Wigan was inhabited by a bunch of knuckle dragging Neandertals in Fancy dress who only ever went to Station Rd to worship at the alter that was Frank Wilson, even though the Casino played a big part in the early Modern scene - as is evident in the above playlists wink.gif

ok mate still a bit rough from last night, know what you said about neandertals in fancy dress know thats funny :D:Dlaugh.gif:lol:

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I assume this is Paul Collinson, if so good to hear from you, your name has come up in conversation a number of times over years, I am very friendly with Cheryl, originally from Selby, who you knew.

You and Kieth (?) from Keighley were among my original musical mentors, long time ago mate. so thanks for that (I think!). Hope you are well.

At last someone else on here who went to Wigan Tiffs instead of the Casino's extra night, do you remember that? More DJ's than people but what music.

Cheers

Jock O'Connor

last saw cheryl at cleethorpes couple of years ago,spent half the night sat on my knee,naughty minx!keith doesn't ring a bell. do you mean kim from selby,he's on here somewhere.long time ago but i dont know ur name mate. unless you are jock from dundee, who knew the afformentioned miss fairish! only knew a few from scotland,jackie from edinburgh for one but cant remember surnameage,drink and too much tenuate dospan back in the day!!tell cheryl i want my seven souls back! gave her a copy for doing my hair one week!!!

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Deffo Harpo...that is some fine early modern choonage....Cheryl Berdell..does that ever get played out anymore??...awesome tune...Delxxx

Hi Dell,

I haven't heard said record played a great deal for "time".

I was fortunate as at the time Arthur was in the process of selling some stuff, and through Chris Plant, who took a lot of big 60's stuff i was able to get a Cheryl Berdell and Pages (still c/u at the time, the Pages remained so until well into '82) At the time i turned down the Daybreak, i was so into other stuff at trhe time that it was not a top priority(remember i'm also the guy who wouldn't buy the Cashmeres for £20 as i said it was played out. DERRRRRR!!!).I also got my Jimmy McFarland in the same deal.

There are so many wonderful tunes, lots semi if not more forgotten by all but those priveleged few who were there at that exciting bountiful time. And it may stretch the meaning of the term "modern" as many are approaching their 30th birthday, but they deserve to be played out, would you not agree??

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i remember having an argument wi cammy from keighley on the leeds coach about!"packing up" ,i swore id heard it announced as eddie parker the week before he coolly announced it was damon fox as he,d taken the trouble to ask about it. he was right sorry mate for bein such a t**t.wasnt the del tours title covered up as "pretty as a picture"

Del-Tours c/u as Mel Wynn?

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Del-Tours c/u as Mel Wynn?

i think it was c/u as ernest mosely! can't fully remember.

was the lovers c/u as johnny robinson?

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Hi Dell,

I haven't heard said record played a great deal for "time".

I was fortunate as at the time Arthur was in the process of selling some stuff, and through Chris Plant, who took a lot of big 60's stuff i was able to get a Cheryl Berdell and Pages (still c/u at the time, the Pages remained so until well into '82) At the time i turned down the Daybreak, i was so into other stuff at trhe time that it was not a top priority(remember i'm also the guy who wouldn't buy the Cashmeres for £20 as i said it was played out. DERRRRRR!!!).I also got my Jimmy McFarland in the same deal.

There are so many wonderful tunes, lots semi if not more forgotten by all but those priveleged few who were there at that exciting bountiful time. And it may stretch the meaning of the term "modern" as many are approaching their 30th birthday, but they deserve to be played out, would you not agree??

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last saw cheryl at cleethorpes couple of years ago,spent half the night sat on my knee,naughty minx!keith doesn't ring a bell. do you mean kim from selby,he's on here somewhere.long time ago but i dont know ur name mate. unless you are jock from dundee, who knew the afformentioned miss fairish! only knew a few from scotland,jackie from edinburgh for one but cant remember surnameage,drink and too much tenuate dospan back in the day!!tell cheryl i want my seven souls back! gave her a copy for doing my hair one week!!!

I think it will be the very same Jock as Pam and I were best mates at Wigan, funny enough just got an email off her, having not seen her for many years. I was from Musselburgh then though, not Dundee, I just talked equally funny! biggrin.gif

Thought it was Keith, he had reddish hair, slightish fellow always wore denim jacket and jeans, was always head of the game musically then, pretty sure he came to the Wigan Tiffs do also, he went regular to Rotherham but then faded off. Although there is every chance I have the name totally wrong, it wasn't Kim, I remember Kim.

Take care mate, my bump into you sometime in deep darkest Yorkshire!

Jock

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Hi went to wigan 73 to 77+ nearly every weekend only missed if I was going on holiday, at that time in my life that is all I lived for spent most of my wages on records from derek guest record shop in farnworth ( Bolton ) then had to go home to face my mother and tell her yet again I'd just spent my keep on records. The main thing which I will always remember is pushing open the door into the main room and the heat, the Atmosphere of hundreds of people dancing and the sound of I'll be there by the gems blasting out of the speakers filled me with goose bumps and made every hair on my neck stand on end. It does'nt matter whether you went in 73 or 79 the main thing is you went and like me you all will have memory's of what a fantastic place it was I made loads of great friends, heard great music but like most people around 77/78 I got married need I say more - house, mortgage, Kids my wigan days where over. lost touch with everyone - Been back on the scene a few years now if you remember me or any of the gang from Farnwoth please reply.

Bernie Pearson

Bernie - Do you remember an U18 disco in Farnworth where they played Northern? It was called Jigsaw

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Del-Tours c/u as Mel Wynn?

i think it was c/u as ernest mosely! can't fully remember.

was the lovers c/u as johnny robinson?

Deltours-Ernest Mosley and Mel Wynn c/u.

Lovers was Johnny Robinson c/u

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Hi Dell,

I haven't heard said record played a great deal for "time".

I was fortunate as at the time Arthur was in the process of selling some stuff, and through Chris Plant, who took a lot of big 60's stuff i was able to get a Cheryl Berdell and Pages (still c/u at the time, the Pages remained so until well into '82) At the time i turned down the Daybreak, i was so into other stuff at trhe time that it was not a top priority(remember i'm also the guy who wouldn't buy the Cashmeres for £20 as i said it was played out. DERRRRRR!!!).I also got my Jimmy McFarland in the same deal.

There are so many wonderful tunes, lots semi if not more forgotten by all but those priveleged few who were there at that exciting bountiful time. And it may stretch the meaning of the term "modern" as many are approaching their 30th birthday, but they deserve to be played out, would you not agree

ITS OK THE CASHMERES WENT TO A GOOD HOME HERE laugh.gif:D:lol:

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We still see Wagsy and keep in touch with him all the time where do you go these days maybe you go the same places and didn't realise.

Sharon

I cant for the life of me remember the nighter i went to in worcester/redditch, ive got memory loss must be my age!! lol, i spent alot of time down in redditch tho staying at Sharons with her sister, i can remember her dad was a prison officer as was my dad and we'd hide in her bedroom every morning so her dad wouldnt find us wide awake (know what i mean?)!! lol, those were great days. I was a regular at Wigan as i only lived an hour away thats where i met sharon and Wagsy and crew there was a guy called Simon from brum too, do you know him? Me and the Lancaster crowd used to sit on the left near the stage (when i was stationery)!!. I havent been to a nighter for years due to family comitments but im up for it now and have found a few freinds from the past on you tube and we are all organising to go to the May 09 nighter at Morecambe for a reunion, i honestly cant wait.

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Just having a little peruse of the tracks posted in this thread and I think it's pretty clear that some fantastic records are sadly these days long forgotten. despite being a regular for most of the period in question one or two of the tracks are completely new 'to me' and given the current very broad church of the scene today it's unlikely I'll get the chance to hear some/all of them again (in one place anyway).. :lol:

At the risk of sounding somewhat Nostalgic and incurring the usual "Why can't you move on" type comments, would there not be the scope/demand for a 'Proper' Wigan revival night somewhere - ie one that doesn't involve Shopping Centres or some sad faxcimile of what people 'think' were the popular tracks at Wigan?...

I've been to a few supposed Wigan revival/anniversary type nights down the years and TBH was VERY disappointed by all of them, all I got was the usual Frank Wilson, MVP's, Sandi Sheldon played on the hour-Every hour, and 95% of the above tracks remained in their boxes - Now OK I know it's next to impossible to cram 8 years of music into the average 4-5 hour 'Soul nite', but given the clear interest shown in this thread would it not be beyond the realms of possibility that someone could pick up the torch as it were (no pun intended) and put on a 'Proper' Wigan Casino nite?..

Or should I perhaps just crawl back into my Cave again and listen to DJ Genitals for the 3000th time?........ :huh:

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Just having a little peruse of the tracks posted in this thread and I think it's pretty clear that some fantastic tracks are sadly these days long forgotten. despite being a regular for most of the period in question one or two of the tracks are completely new 'to me' and given the current very broad church of the scene today it's unlikely I'll get the chance to hear some/all of them again (in one place anyway).. :D

At the risk of sounding somewhat Nostalgic and incurring the usual "Why can't you move on" type comments, would there not be the scope/demand for a 'Proper' Wigan revival night somewhere - ie one that doesn't involve Shopping Centres or some sad faxcimile of what people 'think' were the popular tracks at Wigan?...

I been to a few supposed Wigan revival/anniversary type nights down the years and TBH was VERY disappointed by all of them, all I got was the usual Frank Wilson, MVP's, Sandi Sheldon played on the hour-Every hour, and 95% of the above tracks remained in their boxes - Now OK I know it's next to impossible to cram 8 years of music into the average 4-5 hour 'Soul nite', but given the clear interest shown in this thread would it not be beyond the realms of possibility that someone could pick up the torch as it were (no pun intended) and put on a 'Proper' Wigan Casino nite?..

Or should I perhaps just crawl back into my Cave again and listen to DJ Genitals for the 3000th time?........ :huh:

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yes it a proper wigan nite would be great..covering the whole 8 years ... :lol:

u wou

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redditch nighter was imperial ballroom a seedy place lol

Thanks for reminding me lol, its all coming flooding back!!! Got to admit i did enjoy myself tho the crowd i hung around with were great and we partied all weekend!!

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Just having a little peruse of the tracks posted in this thread and I think it's pretty clear that some fantastic records are sadly these days long forgotten. despite being a regular for most of the period in question one or two of the tracks are completely new 'to me' and given the current very broad church of the scene today it's unlikely I'll get the chance to hear some/all of them again (in one place anyway).. :D

At the risk of sounding somewhat Nostalgic and incurring the usual "Why can't you move on" type comments, would there not be the scope/demand for a 'Proper' Wigan revival night somewhere - ie one that doesn't involve Shopping Centres or some sad faxcimile of what people 'think' were the popular tracks at Wigan?...

I've been to a few supposed Wigan revival/anniversary type nights down the years and TBH was VERY disappointed by all of them, all I got was the usual Frank Wilson, MVP's, Sandi Sheldon played on the hour-Every hour, and 95% of the above tracks remained in their boxes - Now OK I know it's next to impossible to cram 8 years of music into the average 4-5 hour 'Soul nite', but given the clear interest shown in this thread would it not be beyond the realms of possibility that someone could pick up the torch as it were (no pun intended) and put on a 'Proper' Wigan Casino nite?..

Or should I perhaps just crawl back into my Cave again and listen to DJ Genitals for the 3000th time?........ :huh:

I would go along with that mate :lol: .

Oh btw did Greeny ever get in touch?.

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I would go along with that mate :huh: .

Oh btw did Greeny ever get in touch?.

Eh-Up Neil... :lol:

No contact from Greeny sadly (other than the bit of info I PM'd you with last time)

Out of interest do you remember a Kim S from over your way?...

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ITS OK THE CASHMERES WENT TO A GOOD HOME HERE :lol::lol::lol:

Hi Toad

I still have a tape of yours from around that time with the Cashmeres on it also the Imaginations, Determinations, J.T. Brown, Traditions, Prince Phillip Mitchell, Leon Bryant, Bobby Cutchins etc.

Some great tunes then and still now!

Mark

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Can anyone remember near the end of the Casino there was a All-dayer on a Sunday in Stoke on Trent I can remember catching the train from Wigan after the nighter there was loads travelling down for it but can't for the life of me recall the name of the place! I can remember it was at a night club that had a double Decker bus on the top floor where they served food I don't think I ever got that smashed to just dreamt that :huh: ! ...................Thinking about it I keep getting the name Deville's or something like that all the Wigan jocks where on I think :lol: .

Steve J

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Hi Toad

I still have a tape of yours from around that time with the Cashmeres on it also the Imaginations, Determinations, J.T. Brown, Traditions, Prince Phillip Mitchell, Leon Bryant, Bobby Cutchins etc.

Some great tunes then and still now!

Mark

PM ME YOUR ADDY AND I,LL CD THEM FOR YOU IF YOU WANT

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This thread really got me motivated to play a few tunes earlier from those halcyon days

Truth..."Coming Home"

The Dells..."Your Song"

Marva Hicks..."Looking over my Shoulder"

Randy Brown..."I'm always in the mood"

Tommy Tate..."You taught me how to love"

Charles Mann..."Shonuff no funny stuff love"

Dustin Wilson..."Sympathy"

Daybreak..."I need love"

Peabo Bryson..."Why don't you make up your mind"

Bobby King..."If you don't want my love"

Bobby Thurston..."Just ask me"

Elusion..."Living on the verge of leaving"

Champaign..."If one more morning"

Leon Bryant..."Mighty body"

Mike Jemison..."You'll never get my love"

JT Brown..."Like taking candy from a baby"

Al Johnson..."I'ts not too late"

Charles Johnson..."Never had a love so good"

Wilson Pickett..."How will i ever know"

I was really going for it with the likes of Curtis,The Softones,Billy Nicholls,Cheryl Berdell and Larry Houston pulled up when my grandson arrived to put an end to the spot.

Was the modern scene ever as good as those early days?, not for me, gotta tell you i shed a few tears playin' those tunes, tears of joy and elation that those records still give me all these years later.

OH! HAPPY DAYS.

Great thread this but well short of tuneage.

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I've been to a few supposed Wigan revival/anniversary type nights down the years and TBH was VERY disappointed by all of them,

Probably because Richard never dj'd at any of them, his playlists between 1979 and 1981 were his best ever, never missed one in the last two years even when I remember there was barely over one hundred in on the saturday after the friday oldies nighter some nights. Phyllis Hyman, Cecil Washington and Court Davis in the same spot.... awesome..... :thumbsup:

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Probably because Richard never dj'd at any of them, his playlists between 1979 and 1981 were his best ever, never missed one in the last two years even when I remember there was barely over one hundred in on the saturday after the friday oldies nighter some nights. Phyllis Hyman, Cecil Washington and Court Davis in the same spot.... awesome..... :thumbsup:

100 only maybe but mate what times? it sort of made it more exclusive to us,My times at the casino where mainly 79-81 fook me i was only 15 in 79.

I haven't met one person who actually went the casino in the later years complain.

Forget the shit and the hype.

We where blessed.

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Can anyone remember near the end of the Casino there was a All-dayer on a Sunday in Stoke on Trent I can remember catching the train from Wigan after the nighter there was loads travelling down for it but can't for the life of me recall the name of the place! I can remember it was at a night club that had a double Decker bus on the top floor where they served food I don't think I ever got that smashed to just dreamt that :thumbsup: ! ...................Thinking about it I keep getting the name Deville's or something like that all the Wigan jocks where on I think :g: .

Steve J

Would that be 'Strikes' in Burslem perchance :g:

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I cant for the life of me remember the nighter i went to in worcester/redditch, ive got memory loss must be my age!! lol, i spent alot of time down in redditch tho staying at Sharons with her sister, i can remember her dad was a prison officer as was my dad and we'd hide in her bedroom every morning so her dad wouldnt find us wide awake (know what i mean?)!! lol, those were great days. I was a regular at Wigan as i only lived an hour away thats where i met sharon and Wagsy and crew there was a guy called Simon from brum too, do you know him? Me and the Lancaster crowd used to sit on the left near the stage (when i was stationery)!!. I havent been to a nighter for years due to family comitments but im up for it now and have found a few freinds from the past on you tube and we are all organising to go to the May 09 nighter at Morecambe for a reunion, i honestly cant wait.

simeon, o melley, photo of him earlier in the thread, top left thats were the preston lot used to sit

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100 only maybe but mate what times? it sort of made it more exclusive to us,My times at the casino where mainly 79-81 fook me i was only 15 in 79.

I haven't met one person who actually went the casino in the later years complain.

Forget the shit and the hype.

We where blessed.

Amen to that :excl: ..... :wicked: Delxxxx

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Probably because Richard never dj'd at any of them, his playlists between 1979 and 1981 Phyllis Hyman, Cecil Washington and Court Davis in the same spot.... awesome..... :wicked:

Only to well aware of RS's playlists from this period as 'I Don't Like To Lose' is proberbly my all time fave 'Northern' Track, sadly however he did Jock at an early Casino Anniversary night I went to at the King Georges Hall in Blackburn - and after waiting for most of the evening for his spot in anticipation of hearing some of the great tracks listed on this thread - you can understand my 'slight' disappointment when his first track was...... yep you've guessed it 'Frank Wilson' followed by Dana Vallery - BOTH of which had been played in the previous spot (both these tracks were played at least 5 times each over the evening). to be fair he did throw a couple of 'his' decent tracks in, but on the whole the spot was little better than what you can buy on any Wigan Montage type CD in the bargain bucket at the local Tesco.

I can only imagine he was perhaps 'under orders' of the promoters of this event to keep it 'simple' as the rest of the evenings music was in a very similar vein, still it was rather sad though to see one of the greatest ever jocks on the scene open his spot with 'Do I Love You' :excl:

Oh, and needless to say I've never been back since.

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He is the promoter of king georges blackburn which makes it all the more disapointing.But its a very succsessful venue so horses for courses.Have tried several times to get richard to dj at various venues and even tho ive known him for nearly 30 years,and have been practicaly neighbours for the same amount of time he is just not interested in the northern scene these days,shame but still the best of all time.

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But its a very succsessful venue so horses for courses.

Can't argue with that Andy - the place was heaving, so much so it took around an hour to get served at the bar..

Perhaps because of the size of the venue the 'numbers' thing becomes more important hence perhaps trying to appeal to a wider audience as possible - hence keeping the playlist on the 'safe' side. it's just I was maybe expecting a little more from such a great DJ.

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Can't argue with that Andy - the place was heaving, so much so it took around an hour to get served at the bar..

Perhaps because of the size of the venue the 'numbers' thing becomes more important hence perhaps trying to appeal to a wider audience as possible - hence keeping the playlist on the 'safe' side. it's just I was maybe expecting a little more from such a great DJ.

Well the Casino was on the large side...and during 79-81...RC didnt comprimise his playlists during that period at all..he certainly didnt play it safe.....one of the most left field DJs during those days...he was the Pied Piper..and we supported him musically...aaah the passsage of time eh sleep.gif ....Delxxxx

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plus he was a northern collector then, and doesn't have the records now,so will only play off cd's at these venues. still the best of his generation by a mile and an importatnt part of my life and my early yrs!

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Only to well aware of RS's playlists from this period as 'I Don't Like To Lose' is proberbly my all time fave 'Northern' Track, sadly however he did Jock at an early Casino Anniversary night I went to at the King Georges Hall in Blackburn - and after waiting for most of the evening for his spot in anticipation of hearing some of the great tracks listed on this thread - you can understand my 'slight' disappointment when his first track was...... yep you've guessed it 'Frank Wilson' followed by Dana Vallery - BOTH of which had been played in the previous spot (both these tracks were played at least 5 times each over the evening). to be fair he did throw a couple of 'his' decent tracks in, but on the whole the spot was little better than what you can buy on any Wigan Montage type CD in the bargain bucket at the local Tesco.

I can only imagine he was perhaps 'under orders' of the promoters of this event to keep it 'simple' as the rest of the evenings music was in a very similar vein, still it was rather sad though to see one of the greatest ever jocks on the scene open his spot with 'Do I Love You' :lol:

Oh, and needless to say I've never been back since.

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used to get really excited in the early stoke days when Richard used to dj there in the main room -

but it was clear then as it was at blackpool tower he is not really interested in northern anymore

his spots at the ritz niters in manchester were great however

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plus he was a northern collector then, and doesn't have the records now,so will only play off cd's at these venues. still the best of his generation by a mile and an importatnt part of my life and my early yrs!

Aaah...the passage of time... :lol:......Delxxx

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Oh No! i knew Dale really well we used to meet up with him on the train at Lancaster and weve spent many a nighter chatting for hours, im totally shocked hes no longer with us. Gob Bless him he was a star! :(

Persil tickets - oh fond memories!

With Mike Fletcher (Fletch), Tim Bone (Bonie) and many others we used to plan on a weekly basis who's parents were buying the Persil so we could get the two in one offer.

Magic!

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used to get really excited in the early stoke days when Richard used to dj there in the main room -

but it was clear then as it was at blackpool tower he is not really interested in northern anymore

Sad ...but very true

his spots at the ritz niters in manchester were great however

YEAH....totally agree!!!!!!....Delxxxx

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