JOE 90

RON GRAINER ORCHESTRA

Guess what, I like this track! Yup I'm out, I am a Divvy.

Did you dance to this in the casino days? Some one had to? It didn't clear the floor so who danced and the million dollar question is.............. would you dance to this at a nighter?

Would you dare play this at a nighter?

If not why not, it aint the worst track played.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9hMTC9NusM

Ron Grainer is a cover version - the original is by Barry Gray from the TV show. I love it, but only because my little boy likes to watch Joe 90 on dvd. As a northern record it's a disgrace and was literally started as a joke by dave McCadden.

As a northern record it's a disgrace and was literally started as a joke by dave McCadden.

And almost as trashy was the Teddy Vanns Orchestra -Theme From Colouredman on Capitol (IMHO).

So defo a "big no" to all of the above questions Simon.

And almost as trashy was the Teddy Vanns Orchestra -Theme From Colouredman on Capitol (IMHO).

So defo a "big no" to all of the above questions Simon.

" Joe 90 " is a travesty of a record , and so bad that you can smell it .......

Malc Burton

Yep!..was Guilty, mi sen ,..young and naive..( still ave affection for it though)

Edited January 25, 201015 yr by Big Chris

I remember well hearing this for the first time on a saturday night at the Casino. I knew then that the game was up and the sooner the Casino shut the better.

Surley I'm not dancin on me own?

Surley I'm not dancin on me own?

I like it, but because it reminds of when i was a kid, i never heard it at Wigan. Like all these type of records it was a time and a place thing. I still have affection for Murial Day - Nine Times Out Of Ten and openly admitted the other week i like Barnaby Bye - Can't Live This Way. It's about nostalgia and memories of when we were young and carefree i reckon. Not a bad reason in my opinion.

Ron Grainer's not a patch on the Barry Grey original though.

Edited January 25, 201015 yr by Matt Male

And almost as trashy was the Teddy Vanns Orchestra -Theme From Colouredman on Capitol (IMHO).

So defo a "big no" to all of the above questions Simon.

I like Teddy Vann. Is that considered to be shite too - one of those records the scene would rather forget.

I like Teddy Vann. Is that considered to be shite too - one of those records the scene would rather forget.

1st round knock out used to fill the floor in Ms,wouldnt like to tell the singer his record wasent, a belter

I remember well hearing this for the first time on a saturday night at the Casino. I knew then that the game was up and the sooner the Casino shut the better.

And what "game" would that be, exactly?...

one of the records that stopped me going to Wigan along with Teddy Vann and the final nail - Mickey Mouse's Concerto in B Major

Absolute shite

Talking of Ron Grainer i am not scared to say i like 'When Love Grows Cold' by him.

one of the records that stopped me going to Wigan along with Teddy Vann and the final nail - Mickey Mouse's Concerto in B Major

Absolute shite

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mickey mouse concerto is terrible...

I like Teddy Vann. Is that considered to be shite too - one of those records the scene would rather forget.

i like it too part & parcel of going to the casino

TEDDY VANN & HIS ORCHESTRA & CHOIR - THEME FROM COLORED MAN - CAPITOL -

kev

That's the boot this is the original version.

Edited January 30, 201015 yr by Prophonics 2029

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mickey mouse concerto is terrible...

Soul Sams finest hour.

'Kinnell Simon - you moan about R&B then put this thread up...

i like it too part & parcel of going to the casino

Agreed, it's all to easy to look back with hindsight and slag off these type tracks (which seems a popular passtime on this board) yet love them or loath them, they were part of the scene - and lets remember Wigan had no monopoly on crap records - it just makes an easier target, sadly.

Agreed, it's all to easy to look back with hindsight and slag off these type tracks (which seems a popular passtime on this board) yet love them or loath them, they were part of the scene - and lets remember Wigan had no monopoly on crap records - it just makes an easier target, sadly.

Agreed - but when a Promoter/DJ at the venue releases the record on a label called "Casino Classics" that doesn't really do Wigan any favours does it ?

Agreed - but when a Promoter/DJ at the venue releases the record on a label called "Casino Classics" that doesn't really do Wigan any favours does it ?

I'll more than agree with your agreement, however many of these tracks were happily played before and after at other venues yet you'd think Wigan invented all of them reading some of the stuff posted on here.

It seems a popular point scoring exercise with some on this board that as soon as anyone mentions the 'W' word you have to immediately pounce and state "Wigan went crap after Footsee, This England, Casino Classics, Mod invasion" (insert relevent excuse). Yes!, there were some crap tracks played, but these were a few small flies in a very large jar of fantastic ointment - just because you continued to go to Wigan after 77 it doesn't mean you're some kind of knuckle dragging neanderthal who only went to Station Rd to dress up in comedy trousers and worship at the alter of Frank Wilson.

'Kinnell Simon - you moan about R&B then put this thread up...

I'm just a crazeeeeeeeeeeee mixed up kid

I'm just a crazeeeeeeeeeeee mixed up kid

True

Daft Kev

And while we're at it how about this lot:

The Fantastic Plastic Machine

Six O'Clock

The Kid

Cartoon Candy Carnival

A Good Thing Going

Classics.......

Mick

Wigan has always been an easy target for the so called "purist brigade". I remember dancing to all the records mentioned in this thread, and aint ashamed to say so....I`ll throw another into the mix, "danse a la musique" anybody?

THE FRENCH FRIES - DANSE A LA MUSIQUE - EPIC -

Wigan has always been an easy target for the so called "purist brigade". I remember dancing to all the records mentioned in this thread, and aint ashamed to say so....I`ll throw another into the mix, "danse a la musique" anybody?

I love that track!

It's great bieng a Div

Remember being on the dance floor when I heard it come in for the first time thinking "This sounds familiar" then realsising what it was and retiring to the stage. Another example of the dross that Winstanley associated himself with...along with Time out, the Wigan Joker and much of the stuff released on Casino Classics. Most people I know still want to thrash him to within an inch of his life..and then thrash him again for having the arrogance to subject us to this dross then trying to line his pockets by selling it under the description 'Northern Soul'.....tosser!

hey dont forget brad stevens - now im your number one..

Love that,Ken,........Epic Special Productions.....if you don't mind!

THE FRENCH FRIES - DANSE A LA MUSIQUE - EPIC -

where ?

oops..

Edited January 31, 201015 yr by Big Chris

Wigan has always been an easy target for the so called "purist brigade". I remember dancing to all the records mentioned in this thread, and aint ashamed to say so....I`ll throw another into the mix, "danse a la musique" anybody?

I'm not sure which is worse....the fact that someone thinks that Joe 90 is worth talking about, or that I got suckered into the thread...... ...

....but only in the defence of The French Fries....which should never be put into the same bag as Ron Grainger and the other DJ embarassments on this thread.....

Edited January 31, 201015 yr by Wrongcrowd

Remember being on the dance floor when I heard it come in for the first time thinking "This sounds familiar" then realsising what it was and retiring to the stage. Another example of the dross that Winstanley associated himself with...along with Time out, the Wigan Joker and much of the stuff released on Casino Classics. Most people I know still want to thrash him to within an inch of his life..and then thrash him again for having the arrogance to subject us to this dross then trying to line his pockets by selling it under the description 'Northern Soul'.....tosser!

Very harsh, its all about opinions mate. I seem to remember all these records being floor packers, so the majority must have rated em. Another you`ll like...mistura / flasher

Guess I'll have to mention Lord Sitar.......

don't know why!

Eh? l thought it was The love Sitars

LORD SITAR - BLAKC IS BLAKC 1.MP3 -

ANDRE BRASSEUR - THE KID - CBS LP -

Edited January 31, 201015 yr by ken

Very harsh, its all about opinions mate. I seem to remember all these records being floor packers, so the majority must have rated em. Another you`ll like...mistura / flasher

I don't mind stuff like Teddy Vann.. a 'monster' when I first started going, but Joe 90 and songs 'specially recorded in a garage near Wigan' was taking the piss!..In actual fact, the more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that he'd lost the plot and was actually just taking the piss to see how far he could go!

joe 90 part of our childhood, played theme tune at mod disco's....ken knows that and by barry gray. lord sitar booted by soussan but original capitol issue. cochise?...huge!, footsie ....soussan even did an acetate with car horns on and no world cup crowd!. pop records galore all points north, south, east and west and for how many years? and we castigate r n b....our scene evolves like the gaudi in barcelona and it feels like its been around for centuries.....dont you just love it!. dance to the music?...we did at stoke nye to sly & the family stone, dance floor rammed, 1000 people cant be wrong?, well done dave.e. fast forward connie stevens....yes, youve heard this one already on SS but richard,s given it his stamp of approval and he's no schmuck!...see, were still finding them now. oh, and talking about theme tunes, here's one to make pete.s's neck hairs stand on end, and wednesfield man...."locke's theme" by bob's band on atco and tho' you want to hang winstanley high, he played that at the casino!.

rob.h

I'll more than agree with your agreement, however many of these tracks were happily played before and after at other venues yet you'd think Wigan invented all of them reading some of the stuff posted on here.

It seems a popular point scoring exercise with some on this board that as soon as anyone mentions the 'W' word you have to immediately pounce and state "Wigan went crap after Footsee, This England, Casino Classics, Mod invasion" (insert relevent excuse). Yes!, there were some crap tracks played, but these were a few small flies in a very large jar of fantastic ointment - just because you continued to go to Wigan after 77 it doesn't mean you're some kind of knuckle dragging neanderthal who only went to Station Rd to dress up in comedy trousers and worship at the alter of Frank Wilson.

Good reply.

It seems that a hell of a lot of people stopped going to the Casino in 77/78, it must of hit a bad patch musically to send people away. Such a shame really as the best sets were in 79/ 80. (Searling). You missed out!

Joe 90! Great to watch on the telly when we were kids. Shit as a record, come on!

im having an arkwright attack ken....IIIIIIIIITS THE WRONG FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFLAMING TRACK GRANVILLE...PPPPPPPPAINT IT BLLLLACK YER DOPEY APETH!

ROB.H

First time I heard Joe 90 at a Northern night was around 74 at the Geraldo Club in St Helens. Can't remember the DJ, Dave something I think. played it for a laugh. Also the Kid was mentioned, Surely a Wheel sound?

Paul

i knew id uploaded this before

hes the man himself at the casino- special request for pikeys dog!! lol

https://www.soul-source.co.uk/more/tracks/w/wigan%20casino%20live%201978

First time I heard Joe 90 at a Northern night was around 74 at the Geraldo Club in St Helens. Can't remember the DJ, Dave something I think. played it for a laugh. Also the Kid was mentioned, Surely a Wheel sound?

Paul

Paul

You may be right about The Kid but surely Joe 90 wasn't played as early as 74 - still big on the TV then wasn't it?

Anyway, on the subject of instrumentals, it's a very thin line between s***e & 'right on' isn't it? To wit:

Bari Track

Harlem Rumble

Frantic Escape

etc......

Mick