Seen it all now.... Original45s only my arse....

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Edited July 4, 201015 yr by Awake 502

Seen it all now.... Original45s only my arse....

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But to be fair - there is a scan, it's described as a carver, and it was put on at 99p start.

What more do you want?

But to be fair - there is a scan, it's described as a carver, and it was put on at 99p start.

What more do you want?

Do you think everyone knows what a "Carver" is ?

Do you think everyone knows what a "Carver" is ?

No, but if anyone is spending 3 figures on a piece of vinyl i think they probably would.

The seller also states "all original first issues unless noted" - which it clearly is. If someone doesn't know then there is always the oportunity to ASK before bidding.

I don't have a problem with this personally, unlike some of the shyster sales that are intended to deceive with their bootlegs - now they really piss me off!

A silly price indeed but I have no control of what people choose to pay for an item! Everything starts at 99p

I usually only selI original records but have been selling some boots and reissues over the past couple of weeks as well, some of these belonged to a mate of mine who passed away recently, I am selling them as a favor for his wife!

Anyway, got lots more good stuff to list, mainly my own originals, maybe I should set up a new account to list them.....'someofthesemaynotbeoriginals' ffs!

regards Paul

A silly price indeed but I have no control of what people choose to pay for an item! Everything starts at 99p

I usually only selI original records but have been selling some boots and reissues over the past couple of weeks as well, some of these belonged to a mate of mine who passed away recently, I am selling them as a favor for his wife!

Anyway, got lots more good stuff to list, mainly my own originals, maybe I should set up a new account to list them.....'someofthesemaynotbeoriginals' ffs!

regards Paul

Shame the B side wasn't cut on it as well.

A silly price indeed but I have no control of what people choose to pay for an item! Everything starts at 99p

I usually only selI original records but have been selling some boots and reissues over the past couple of weeks as well, some of these belonged to a mate of mine who passed away recently, I am selling them as a favor for his wife!

Anyway, got lots more good stuff to list, mainly my own originals, maybe I should set up a new account to list them.....'someofthesemaynotbeoriginals' ffs!

regards Paul

Paul,you dont have to justify selling boots etc just cos your user name is Original45's.If people don't know what a carver is,or do a bit of digging to find out the history of the record ,and still prepared to bid - Tuff.!!!

Its worth £342 to someone.

top seller ,and man is paul........ .........what he descibes as being for sale,.......is what it is ................,buyers choice to bid .........might have bid myself if i had seen it, regards ezzie

I suppose to be fair, there were 5 different bidders and 19 bids in total - so surely (at least) most of them must have been aware of what they were actually bidding on?

But there again....who knows

I suppose to be fair, there were 5 different bidders and 19 bids in total - so surely (at least) most of them must have been aware of what they were actually bidding on?

But there again....who knows

must get a few hundred done

i saw it, read description and decided not to bid, so pretty sure the others must have seen clearly that it was a carver. nice result paul.

i did bid on 2 of paul's other originals sales, lost one at last minute, great price too (embers - hence i have a want out on here for it ), the other i won

top seller ,and man is paul........ .........what he descibes as being for sale,.......is what it is ................,buyers choice to bid .........might have bid myself if i had seen it, regards ezzie

And what's more his sales list has led directly to Bradford going to the top of my "must do" venues.

I thought Jeez if these are what he's selling what's he playing ffs!

Just got to get myself fit enough to travel and I'll be up there.

- Kev.

Do you think everyone knows what a "Carver" is ?

I thought it was one of these ..but could'nt work out where to put the meat

I thought it was one of these ..but could'nt work out where to put the meat

this is a good point, wouldn't a better name be "carved"?

And what's more his sales list has led directly to Bradford going to the top of my "must do" venues.

I thought Jeez if these are what he's selling what's he playing ffs!

Just got to get myself fit enough to travel and I'll be up there.

- Kev.

You wont regret that Kev its top notch

I thought it was one of these ..but could'nt work out where to put the meat

Our local butchers assistant got the sack for putting his dick into the meat carver.

She got the sack too.

Seen it all now.... Original45s only my arse....

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Whats the price of a real one of these?

You wont regret that Kev its top notch

love it but oo is it really?

love it but oo is it really?

It is actually The Tiaras I think?

been collecting for 30yrs and honestly never heard of the term carver before in my life!!

Have played the link and still have no idea what it means...........explain please somebody:huh:

It is actually The Tiaras I think?

The Tiaras - Foolish Girl / Surprise - Op-Art 1003

Canadian release 1969

been collecting for 30yrs and honestly never heard of the term carver before in my life!!

Have played the link and still have no idea what it means...........explain please somebody:huh:

Modern day emi disc , give or take

been collecting for 30yrs and honestly never heard of the term carver before in my life!!

Have played the link and still have no idea what it means...........explain please somebody:huh:

It's like an acetate/emidisc but actually cut onto vinyl. The first company who became popular doing this service were called Vinyl Carvers, hence the expression "carver"

so why is an emi disc now called a carver instead of an emi disc??? Confused........anyways got one of these on Canadian........how much these days??

so why is an emi disc now called a carver instead of an emi disc??? Confused........anyways got one of these on Canadian........how much these days??

Dunno, I've never heard an emidisc called a carver - because it's not.

Wow it sounds a lot earlier than 1969. I see Manships has the flip listed first, it can't be better than that can it?

Actually if it came out it's mad anyone would pay that money for a boot of it and of course totally illegal for the seller to flog it.

Didnt Butch have Foolish girl covered up?

Wow it sounds a lot earlier than 1969. I see Manships has the flip listed first, it can't be better than that can it?

Yes it is as good - the other side is the Belitta Woods cover up Ady

Wow it sounds a lot earlier than 1969. I see Manships has the flip listed first, it can't be better than that can it?

belita woods - foolish girl -

belita woods - foolish girl -

nice but prefer 'Surprise'

Ditto.

No way is it 1969, Canada's not that far behind!

Could you put a scan of either or both sides up please Daz?

discog -dunno if its complete

THE TIARAS

'Where Does All The Time Go / All I Ever Need Is You '(Barry 3491) 1968

'Foolish Girl / Surprise '(Op-Art 1003) 1969

'Lost Girl / Right On '(New Music 101) 1969

been collecting for 30yrs and honestly never heard of the term carver before in my life!!

Have played the link and still have no idea what it means...........explain please somebody:huh:

That's fair enough.

But out of curiosity as I leapt to defend the sales post - if you'd been inclined to bid on this would the description as a carver have dettered you, or at least prompted

you to ask the seller what he mean't by this? Or would you have bid away regardless? Just curious.

- Kev.

Edited July 6, 201015 yr by KevinKent

It was "discovered" by tickhills finest.... andy dyson , current value of this very pretty labelled double sider is £4,000 - £5,000...... only 5 or 6 known copies at the last count..... one of the great finds of the last few years...

That's fair enough.

But out of curiosity as I leapt to defend the sales post - if you'd been inclined to bid on this would the description as a carver have dettered you, or at least prompted

you to ask the seller what he mean't by this? Or would you have bid away regardless? Just curious.

- Kev.

Erm dunno really, i only replied to this as i had no idea what a carver was, only played clip in link to see if itwas the same as the one i had.

It was "discovered" by tickhills finest.... andy dyson , current value of this very pretty labelled double sider is £4,000 - £5,000...... only 5 or 6 known copies at the last count..... one of the great finds of the last few years...

where do you get that figure from Manship sold it for 2k didnt he

If someone had just registered on here and tried to sell a 'carver' for more than 99p he would have been ripped to bits,probably by the same people kiss-arseing and making excuses for bootleg sellers/selling. Give your heads a collective shake.

Well, without going into all of andys business ..... my partner, Nick , goes most places with andy , was with him the night he dscovered it and haas been with him when he dealt 2 copies.... so JM must have let someome have a bargain ?? ... does that verify / authenticate anything Ted ???

i didnt think Mannie had one..it was listed by mistake or in error...?? or am I WRONG AS USUAL

I seem to remember ???? grey matters goin a bit white

gasher

where do you get that figure from Manship sold it for 2k didnt he

Well, without going into all of andys business ..... my partner, Nick , goes most places with andy , was with him the night he dscovered it and haas been with him when he dealt 2 copies.... so JM must have let someome have a bargain ?? ... does that verify / authenticate anything Ted ???

no it doesnt, wether it will fetch 4/5k is yet to be tested unless you know something we dont

i didnt think Mannie had one..it was listed by mistake or in error...?? or am I WRONG AS USUAL

I seem to remember ???? grey matters goin a bit white

gasher

It was a set sale item @ £2K

i didnt think Mannie had one..it was listed by mistake or in error...?? or am I WRONG AS USUAL

I seem to remember ???? grey matters goin a bit white

gasher

I didn't know JM had auctioned / liisted one either.... Tim Brown's,Butch's,Soul Sam's,Mick H's. Andys and i think Ginger T has one ?? have ALL come from A.D.

If someone had just registered on here and tried to sell a 'carver' for more than 99p he would have been ripped to bits,probably by the same people kiss-arseing and making excuses for bootleg sellers/selling. Give your heads a collective shake.

I'll say it again - I've no problem with anyone that lists a sale honestly. These things exist so we might as well face it, they're going to be bought and sold. I just think

anger and dismay is better directed at the many sellers who intentionally set out to deceive or catch the unwary - many with numerous sales and on a regular basis,

and with Ebay seemingly ignoring the reporting of such sellers by myself and others on here.

- Kev.

It was a set sale item @ £2K

good buy there Simon there you are you can get 4/5 k for it now:thumbsup:

no it doesnt, wether it will fetch 4/5k is yet to be tested unless you know something we dont

It's already been tested... so yes , i do !

apologies

Edited July 7, 201015 yr by Ted Massey

Dunno, I've never heard an emidisc called a carver - because it's not.

Same principle though , thats why I said "give or take" . Can't see why the physical difference between a carver & an emi disc matters a hoot in this instance - they serve the same purpose

I'll say it again - I've no problem with anyone that lists a sale honestly. These things exist so we might as well face it, they're going to be bought and sold. I just think

anger and dismay is better directed at the many sellers who intentionally set out to deceive or catch the unwary - many with numerous sales and on a regular basis,

- Kev.

If the buyer knew what a Carver was then no way would they have bid the amount it sold for, intentional or not this item did catch out and deceive the unwary.

An ambiguous listing at best, seller could describe it as an illegal bootleg that anyone can buy for 20 quid.... which is what the item is...

Same principle though , thats why I said "give or take" . Can't see why the physical difference between a carver & an emi disc matters a hoot in this instance - they serve the same purpose

There is a difference though EMI's are old technology, and all the ones that I ever heard were absolutely crap sound quality. And, they deteriate very quickly.

The carver on the other hand, is very good quality sound, and will last for as long as a record if looked after.

If you play the soundfile, it's fantastic sound quality.