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The Look On Your Face,what`s Best Version?

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Finally got a bit of time on my hands today so thought i`d get some info:

 

What was the original version?

 

I know James Phelps came out in 1971 ,John Edwards and Nate Evans 1972,rest no idea??? :g:

Did the Magnetics come out on a 45 or is it under another name :facepalm: .

 

Floyd Smith seem to get his money`s worth  out of this song,have to say all the versions are good.Bit of fun what`s your fav. :P

 

 

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  • manus
    manus

    Got to be James Phelps for me - first heard this in Micky Powney's house in 1975 and thought it was brilliant - but didn't hear any of the versions played out until around 87/88 ?

  • John Reed
    John Reed

    Wayne,   You forgot Johnny Dollar's version on Fised.  Nate Evan's verson also came out as Nate Evans & Buss before Nate Evans and Mean Green, but they're same song.

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    John Reed

    He was Lennie Satin who released Somebody Help Me / Homebound on FIP (the same label as Mel Britt)

  1. 1. What`s best version

    • John Edwards
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    • Satin
      32
    • James Phelps
      30
    • Nate Evans/Mean Green
      11
    • Magnetics
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Finally got a bit of time on my hands today so thought i`d get some info:

 

What was the original version?

 

I know James Phelps came out in 1971 ,John Edwards and Nate Evans 1972,rest no idea??? :g:

Did the Magnetics come out on a 45 or is it under another name :facepalm: .

 

Floyd Smith seem to get his money`s worth  out of this song,have to say all the versions are good.Bit of fun what`s your fav. :P

 

 

Clock starts now :wave:

Great record.

 

My favourite version is the Satin one - Your Loves Got Me

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvX6CYqzCb4

 

Peter

Wayne,

 

You forgot Johnny Dollar's version on Fised.  Nate Evan's verson also came out as Nate Evans & Buss before Nate Evans and Mean Green, but they're same song.

Edited by John Reed

I've the Mean Green version....wasn't it booted as well.Was the record that big in the seventies to warrant the boot or was it a case of pressing before the demand.

Wayne,

 

You forgot Johnny Dollar's version on Fised.  Nate Evan's verson also came out as Nate Evans & Buss before Nate Evans and Mean Green, but they're same song.

was going to mention the flip side on the Nate Evans, the brilliant 'This Time With Feeling', does that appear on both the Buss and Mean Green releases?

 

ohh, Phelpsy's making a come back... :ohmy:

 

 

Malcolm

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I've the Mean Green version....wasn't it booted as well.Was the record that big in the seventies to warrant the boot or was it a case of pressing before the demand.

Booted (or reissued legally? I never knew which) for the other side

was going to mention the flip side on the Nate Evans, the brilliant 'This Time With Feeling', does that appear on both the Buss and Mean Green releases?

 

ohh, Phelpsy's making a come back... :ohmy:

 

 

Malcolm

 

Yep both the Buss and Mean Green are the same record A & B, case of identity change for what reason I do not know. Perhaps someone can enlighten us.

Great record.

 

My favourite version is the Satin one - Your Loves Got Me

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvX6CYqzCb4

 

Peter

Mine too Peter, although I did have the John Edwards years ago and stil really really rate it

Like the james phelps too,but the female backing irritates me a bit

Question, what's it worth these days - satin?

Also, who is/was satin - are they black/white?

Jim

Got to be James Phelps for me - first heard this in Micky Powney's house in 1975 and thought it was brilliant - but didn't hear any of the versions played out until around 87/88 ?

Also, who is/was satin - are they black/white?

He was Lennie Satin who released Somebody Help Me / Homebound on FIP (the same label as Mel Britt)

Mine too Peter, although I did have the John Edwards years ago and stil really really rate it

Like the james phelps too,but the female backing irritates me a bit

Question, what's it worth these days - satin?

Also, who is/was satin - are they black/white?

Jim

Hi Jim

 

This version is sweeter than the others imo - I like them all, but this is my favourite. John answered the who is it bit. I think the Satin release is a tough one - can only guess at current value as I haven't seen one for ages. I suspect it's well over £500.

 

Peter

 

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Hi Jim

 

This version is sweeter than the others imo - I like them all, but this is my favourite. John answered the who is it bit. I think the Satin release is a tough one - can only guess at current value as I haven't seen one for ages. I suspect it's well over £500.

 

Peter

 

:thumbsup:

 

Satin about 350/400 more likely. Bit tricky to locate.

Looking at the votes, cant believe Nate Evans and John Edwards have the same votes

JE is streets ahead IMO - maybe I will go check them all out again though - just in case!!!

Satin is Lennie Satin, who also recorded a record on FIP.

 

Nate Evans pressed both versions of the 45 himself.

 

"The magnetics" is not the magnetics, it's John McKinney (of the Magnetics) with just some girls backing, recorded in New York.

 

Either the Satin or Phelps is the first version, probably the Satin.

Interesting thread for me this..... Personally, I have always thought they all share the same backing track except of course John Edwards, which is a far superior professional sounding production... Whether its better though is purely down to personal taste I would say. All other versions are essentially the same backing track though( maybe a little overdub here or there but otherwise identical).

Rarity wise, in my opinion,the Satin version is easily the hardest to obtain though... From its plays from the late 80s onwards, (mainly via Gary Dennis in the UK), it was always a real toughie to turn up. I reckon I've seen no more than probably 5 of these come up for sale since those times whilst I've probably seen 20-30 copies of James Phelps( which is probably the dearest version to buy these days)....

Price wise though, I'd put the Satin at about £300-350,less than stated earlier.

They're all good though aren't they?

Best, Ivor

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Wayne,

 

You forgot Johnny Dollar's version on Fised.  Nate Evan's verson also came out as Nate Evans & Buss before Nate Evans and Mean Green, but they're same song.

 

I didn`t know about that version as well John,will try and find a clip.

 

So it looks like Satin might have been the first release?Any idea of year?

 

For me James Phelps and John Edwards are best versions but i think there all good in there own way.John Edwards also got the wonderful A-side: it`s those little things that count :thumbsup: .

 

Thx for the feedback guys,keep it coming :thumbsup:  :g:

My version preference is James Phelps and then John Edwards over the other versions, but do think it’s a tight run thing.  Of the two songs I think I prefer You Were Made For Love over The Look On Your Face and on that case I prefer John Edward’s rendition on Aware, which was his next record after his Bell release.  So for me it’s a draw with: J.P. 1 — J.E. 1

someone in TX turned up some small quantity of satin that went through ebay like 5 years ago. didn't affect price much.

 

i think johnny dollar stole the song, when i was going through john mckinney's stuff i actually found sheet music for the song that had him as writing it (I guess it could have been stolen from him). but there's also the weird title changes. let me see if i scanned the sheet music.

...........of course satin is the best and rarest version, any other's are just.......... :shhh:

John Edwards

Now This fella could sing. Truely awesome!

Atb

Clint

 

i agree, and he was lead of the spinners since phillipe wynne left in '77

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Going by info from a previous thread on here,this is only way you can own on a 45 via grapevine,was a acetate only which Richard Sealing had/has: The Magnetics feat John Mckinney:

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Johnny Dollar version for those who don't know it

 

 

https://youtu.be/fFAxuapEmSI

Thx for posting this up,personally i thought this was the weakiest version but if the mods want to add it to poll,feel free to do

so,i can`t add it.

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Great thread Wayne. I've cast my vote  :shhh:

Nice one Pat,hope your well?

Got to be Satin for me

Johnny Dollar wot a name sounds like a 70s working mens club turn love that name ,not too bad a version .

Satin always

Great post

Martyn

Great record.

My favourite version is the Satin one - Your Loves Got Me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvX6CYqzCb4

Peter

Beautiful, best version ever

John Edwards. James Phelps is a great 45 for the ballad flip too. The others all pale a bit to be honest.

Going by info from a previous thread on here,this is only way you can own on a 45 via grapevine,was a acetate only which Richard Sealing had/has: The Magnetics feat John Mckinney:

 

I said this above, but this record doesn't have the magnetics on it. It is John McKinney of the Magnetics though.

someone in TX turned up some small quantity of satin that went through ebay like 5 years ago. didn't affect price much.

 

I thought this guy still had copies but always wanted top, top $$$ ???

 

Best Russ

I thought this guy still had copies but always wanted top, top $$$ ???

 

Best Russ

 

maybe, i don't know. it would be strange if he had more than one or two copies though since otherwise listing them on ebay and selling them is better for him than sitting on records forever.

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I thought this guy still had copies but always wanted top, top $$$ ???

 

Best Russ

I do remember a seller about 6/7 years ago or something like that (time flies these days) listings a few copies on ebay.I remember

a mate asking if i would order a copy so we could try and work a deal.Sadly i could`t afford it at time,think it worked out about £300 for a copy but my memory isn`t what it was lol.

Yes guy in Texas had a few Satins - certainly more than two......

 

Different Johnny Dollar (name is actually a slang term) although I seem to recall something else by the Fised guy.

 

Right so please don't make me try and find my Manifesto article on this......

 

.....for the hard of reading there are two song titles here with the same music - "The Look on your face" is credited in BMI to Floyd Smith so my money is on Apache being the first reeleased version, with possibly Johnny McKinney being the first recording of the song if not Phelps.

 

"Your loves got me"  - credited to Charles Fisher as songwriter on BMI, so probably Fised (Johnny Dollar) (wasn't Fised one of Fisher's labels?) first and then Satin who credits the song as being by him and Smith-Smith.

 

I do agree though that Nate Evans and John Edwards were later. 

 

Cheers ......Steve

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Would love to read the article in Manifesto Steve,could you bring it to Filthy`s next month? :g:  :thumbup:

 

Gonna run the poll for one more week then lock it down for those that have not voted yet.satin and James Phelps are level top at mo. :g:

 

 

Again thx to everyone who posted :thumbsup: .

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Phelps is the stronger version for me . A pleasant enough record nothing special to my cloth ears but so many versions I must be missing something :g:

For me the background vocals and the production of the John Edwards version leaves the rest far behind..

For me the background vocals and the production of the John Edwards version leaves the rest far behind..

Must agree, the JE version has never had the recognition it deserves

Maybe a case of not obscure enough

I think it's a close call between JE and Satin

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