Dobber Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 hi gang on ebay at the mo,seller says he doesnt know if its original or not! orig! or boot! ? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181435124479?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649# Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Robbk Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 The print and logo look very good. But I don't remember now exactly how the boot looked. I'll be curious to know if it is original or not. Interesting that Wilbur Jackson of "The Two Friends" on Harvey Fuqua's and Gwen Gordy's HPC Records wrote the song. Was he also a member of THIS group? @ plus 2 sounds like a group of 4. But on the song they don't sound like that many different people. Does anyone know all the member names of Two Plus Two? 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tlscapital Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 hi gang on ebay at the mo,seller says he doesnt know if its original or not! orig! or boot! ? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181435124479?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649# Read all the way, but still... Some people just have no shame ! 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dobber Posted June 12, 2014 Author Share Posted June 12, 2014 Read all the way, but still... Capture d’écran 2014-06-12 Ã 14.08.08.png Some people just have no shame ! haha..yeah it doesnt matter about the record,at least that plain white sleeve is original! and how come he knows the sleeve is original but not the flippin record! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Quinvy Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Minty one went for £3k the other night. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Quinvy Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 haha..yeah it doesnt matter about the record,at least that plain white sleeve is original! and how come he knows the sleeve is original but not the flippin record! It's like Triggers brush. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Mick Holdsworth Posted June 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 12, 2014 This is the Numero Uno release in the 45 x 45 box set used (nearly) Identical labels, so it's very hard to tell, but it is just about possible to distinguish, just from the image. Original - the Green is slightly lighter, but the giveaway is the text on the left hand side. The "P" in "Produced by" lines up with the middle of the "V" in "VO-003" Reissue - The Green is slightly darker, and for the same piece of text, ... The "P" in "Produced by" lines up with the middle of the "O" in "VO-003" As the description doesn't say one way or another, it is safe to assume it is a Numero Uno copy (although NOT in its original sleeve, as that would be the Numero Uno sleeve) Cheers Mick 4 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garethx Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 (edited) Different typefaces for Numero release: it uses Futura Book or Medium (the 'pointed' W and M are a giveaway). Edited June 12, 2014 by garethx 3 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Swifty Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Also on the Original the Tone pattern (grey Area) is a coarse screen i.e. big dots and on the other one it looks like a solid grey , if that makes any sense 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dobber Posted June 12, 2014 Author Share Posted June 12, 2014 so in fact,there are many differences with the label alone,without even looking at the vinyl and run out info! lets see if this achieves in the realms of £200 like the ernost mosley boot last week! both records are a convincing looking bootleg,either to fool ones self or others! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Robbk Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Also, the original has a slightly yellower tint in the green. The green in the boot is darker and less yellow (e.g. slightly bluer green). Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gene-R Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 (edited) I don't think he's a seller to be trusted. One important recent item of negative feedback seems to say a lot about him and (IMO) makes him lose a fair bit of credibility: Would not let the record go for the won bid ! said he wanted more money for it ! d***r ( 4153) 15-Feb-14 07:59 Reply by sixtiescollectorsrecords1 (15-Feb-14 09:07): Rare record my mistake starting at £1 fully refunded his £12 and appologied So does that mean he'd refuse to sell this to the winning bidder if it was won at £200, still under the impression that it's original? Edited June 12, 2014 by Gene-R 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 The original is Nashville Matrix stamped in runout groove. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 (edited) This is the Numero Uno release in the 45 x 45 box set used (nearly) Identical labels, so it's very hard to tell, but it is just about possible to distinguish, just from the image. Original - the Green is slightly lighter, but the giveaway is the text on the left hand side. The "P" in "Produced by" lines up with the middle of the "V" in "VO-003" 22orig.JPG Reissue - The Green is slightly darker, and for the same piece of text, ... The "P" in "Produced by" lines up with the middle of the "O" in "VO-003" 22numero.JPG As the description doesn't say one way or another, it is safe to assume it is a Numero Uno copy (although NOT in its original sleeve, as that would be the Numero Uno sleeve) Cheers Mick Was it a similar sort of box set in which this came out of Mick. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Walter-The-Admerations-Man-Oh-Man-life-of-tears-La-Cindy-2nd-/121307299252?pt=UK_Records&hash=item1c3e7a7db4 Edited June 12, 2014 by Guest Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mick Holdsworth Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Was it a similar sort of box set in which this came out of Mick. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Walter-The-Admerations-Man-Oh-Man-life-of-tears-La-Cindy-2nd-/121307299252?pt=UK_Records&hash=item1c3e7a7db4 Not just similar Steve, the very same set. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Robbk Posted June 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 12, 2014 As a Detroit "completist", I wouldn't mind having that lookalike boot to put with my other Velgos. I know I'll never get the real one, with only a couple known, and my not being able to afford to spend over £30 on any record. £200, is ridiculous. Maybe I'd buy it for £10. 4 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Cover-up Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Just saw this, nearly gave me the boak... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Two-Plus-Two-I-039-m-Sure-Look-Around-Velgo-DEMO-OSV003-/121284303323?pt=UK_Records&hash=item1c3d1b99db&nma=true&si=xuXgzPl4hJ8iQ4vn4x360ghjvfU%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 As a UK first issue, is it acceptable to play this out? Ho ho! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 (edited) Just saw this, nearly gave me the boak... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Two-Plus-Two-I-039-m-Sure-Look-Around-Velgo-DEMO-OSV003-/121284303323?pt=UK_Records&hash=item1c3d1b99db&nma=true&si=xuXgzPl4hJ8iQ4vn4x360ghjvfU%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 As a UK first issue, is it acceptable to play this out? Ho ho! Personally I think,depending on the gig....local soul night and not all nighter. ..... yes! Edited June 13, 2014 by Guest Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Not just similar Steve, the very same set. I got the Walter & the Admerations off the bay at a very cheap price last year....these will soar in value i`m thinking, one on Ebay now at a ton. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mick Boyle Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 I think there getting common now Heres some I found in Santa Barbara about 6 weeks ago with the Walter and the Admirations as well $278 for the whole set + the book They looked good but felt cheap. First heard this at Gregs in New Jersey when he had the only known copy (didn't like it then and not to fussed now) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Prophonics 2029 Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 So it should be more like this ? https://www.ebay.com/itm/TWO-PLUS-TWO-IM-SURE-LOOK-AROUND-VELGO-003-Orig-Detroit-Northern-Soul-Mint-/191198652869?pt=Music_on_Vinyl Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest gordon russell Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 heres a thought..........would you list this for a tenner if in anyway you thought it was real (3-4k).....errr no Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Robbk Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 But someone paid $5,100 for a boot. Right? The P in "produced is directly under the V. Or, do I have it backward, and this IS the original? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mick Holdsworth Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 (edited) But someone paid $5,100 for a boot. Right? The P in "produced is directly under the V. Or, do I have it backward, and this IS the original? Other way round Robb, ... Original - the Green is slightly lighter, but the giveaway is the text on the left hand side. The "P" in "Produced by" lines up with the middle of the "V" in "VO-003" Reissue - The Green is slightly darker, and for the same piece of text, ... The "P" in "Produced by" lines up with the middle of the "O" in "VO-003" Cheers Mick Edited June 14, 2014 by Mick Holdsworth Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Robbk Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Good! I'd hate to see someone get that kind of money for a boot, and even someone too lazy to look into it, pay that much for one. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gene-R Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 (edited) Listing was ended by the seller "because of an error in the listing"........ Edited June 16, 2014 by Gene-R Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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