Just curious as to what happened to the London issue that recently turned up. Its all gone silent.

 Did the person that found it decide to sell or has he kept it.

 

Steve

 

 

Nobody ever saw it as far as I know - I kept asking who had seen it in the flesh.

 

I'm unconvinced ....................... until I'm convinced of it's authenticity 

 

Could be a scam - potentially easy to do with IT and digital technology - just like the old 70s bootlegs were done with sh*te technology.

 

Jury is out as far as I'm concerned - until someone who knows their stuff has it in their hand and says it's a goodun   

 

Cheers

 

Richard

Edited September 4, 201410 yr by Premium Stuff

Just curious as to what happened to the London issue that recently turned up. Its all gone silent.

 Did the person that found it decide to sell or has he kept it.

 

Steve

Bloody hell Steve , I was wondering the same thing about 20 mins ago   

i heard someone offered him 10 grand.....but i also heard all last season liverpoo were gonna win the prem....

i heard someone offered him 10 grand.....but i also heard all last season liverpoo were gonna win the prem....

At least one Premiership team on Merseyside was up for it.

a lot of publicity about the find...now total silence  

Just curious as to what happened to the London issue that recently turned up. Its all gone silent.

 Did the person that found it decide to sell or has he kept it.

 

Steve

More to the point Steve, did he ever have it???

a lot of publicity about the find...now total silence  

That's common. You can't expect continuous publicity, it all has to settle down at some time.

Nobody ever saw it as far as I know - I kept asking who had seen it in the flesh.

 

I'm unconvinced ....................... until I'm convinced of it's authenticity 

 

Could be a scam - potentially easy to do with IT and digital technology - just like the old 70s bootlegs were done with sh*te technology.

 

Jury is out as far as I'm concerned - until someone who knows their stuff has it in their hand and says it's a goodun   

 

Cheers

 

Richard

 

you for real ?

 

he passed on two videos that I posted up on here

 

 

what did you think of them then?

 

 

here are 

 

Edited September 4, 201410 yr by mike

you for real ?

 

he passed on two videos that I posted up on here

 

 

what did you think of them then?

 

 

here are 

 

 

Yes, I am for real Mike 

Videos? Thought they were photos... and has been pointed out, photoshop is quite good. Well, photoshop isn't, the users can be. Record Collector's e-mail newsletter said a second copy had turned up, but think they were having a laugh - it's quite hard to tell.

 

sorry, just seen your links - not working on my ipad...

Edited September 4, 201410 yr by cover-up

If you guarantee that I can make £10k plus from it, I reckon I could get some photos and some videos made up for a few hundred quid to "prove" it existed for a few hundred quid. Nice challenge to do, and definitely worth the investment. All the matrix info you need is on the demos anyway 

 

However, if you had the record in your hand and knew enough about records you would know if it was real just by looking and handling it.

 

I'm not saying it is or it isn't real - just not convinced/unconvinced until it has been checked out for real by someone who knows what they are doing.

 

Verifying authenticity based on photos/videos is not sufficiently reliable. Didn't a few people say it was real based on virtual digital media?

 

Thank you 

 

Richard

Edited September 4, 201410 yr by Premium Stuff

If you guarantee that I can make £10k plus from it, I reckon I could get some photos and some videos made up for a few hundred quid to "prove" it existed for a few hundred quid. Nice challenge to do, and definitely worth the investment. All the matrix info you need is on the demos anyway 

 

However, if you had the record in your hand and knew enough about records you would know if it was real just by looking and handling it.

 

I'm not saying it is or it isn't real - just not convinced/unconvinced until it has been checked out for real by someone who knows what they are doing.

 

Verifying authenticity based on photos/videos is not sufficiently reliable. Didn't a few people say it was real based on virtual digital media?

 

Thank you 

 

Richard

I'm convinced Richard, even before seeing the videos. The reason why? Because I know TWO people that I'd trust with my lifetime's collection, who are not on these social media sites and who simply don't go to venues anymore, anywhere. These two guys have had two separate, totally unrelated copies in their hands. For me, that's good enough, and I'm normally very suspicious of things until I've seen them for myself.

If you guarantee that I can make £10k plus from it, I reckon I could get some photos and some videos made up for a few hundred quid to "prove" it existed for a few hundred quid. Nice challenge to do, and definitely worth the investment. All the matrix info you need is on the demos anyway 

 

 

Richard

that doesn't make sense, he wouldn't get 10 bags for proving he had one, he'd have to sell it, in which case, he'd have to have it no?

that doesn't make sense, he wouldn't get 10 bags for proving he had one, he'd have to sell it, in which case, he'd have to have it no?

 

Yes, I didn't make my point very clearly - sorry.

 

 

Answer is no   

 

I meant that I reckon I could probably "counterfeit" a record for a few hundred quid, using modern technology to do photographs and videos, that would fool some people to spend £10k on it as an original. 

 

Basically, I'm trying to say that nobody should say that a 1960s vinyl record is original, based simply on 2014 technology-based photographs and videos.

 

As I have always said - it might be real - I hope it is - but is it? 

 

Cheers

 

Richard

Edited September 5, 201410 yr by Premium Stuff

This reminds me of a similar story - now what is it? Oh, I remember...

 

 

 

 

 

...I'll be believe it when I see the holes in his hands

Hang on... So there ARE two known copies now? When did that happen??!!

Hang on... So there ARE two known copies now? When did that happen??!!

 

There have been one or more copies "known" for a while   

I have just learnt that.....the earth is..... round......!!!

first time i have seen the video of the record...as a printer  the label looks like its been printed on a printing press and not done on a digital press...if you look at the forks on the middle of the record  the label goes right to the edges of them....looks good to me.....

 

just another question   why are the letters and numbers  MSC 7587 on the right hand side upside down.........sure i have been told before

 

 

AND NOW THERE ARE 2 OF THEM.....

There have been one or more copies "known" for a while   

 

One or more?? rather vague that, which can you verify, the "one" or "more"?

first time i have seen the video of the record...as a printer  the label looks like its been printed on a printing press and not done on a digital press...if you look at the forks on the middle of the record  the label goes right to the edges of them....looks good to me.....

 

just another question   why are the letters and numbers  MSC 7587 on the right hand side upside down.........sure i have been told before

 

 

AND NOW THERE ARE 2 OF THEM.....

 

Inverted matrix - they are nearl always upside down.

The second one that Record Collector were told about and may have reported was a demo - the owner didn't know the difference!

I'm convinced Richard, even before seeing the videos. The reason why? Because I know TWO people that I'd trust with my lifetime's collection, who are not on these social media sites and who simply don't go to venues anymore, anywhere. These two guys have had two separate, totally unrelated copies in their hands. For me, that's good enough, and I'm normally very suspicious of things until I've seen them for myself.

 

Pete, I'm not talking about the Record Collector "second copy" I'm talking about Denbo swearing on his collection that there are two copies out there verified by authentic real people...

3d printer and a bit if ink would do it.....might get a few knock my self maybe a few boxes at the weekend..... My mates in prison, on craft day has access to one.

Nobody ever saw it as far as I know - I kept asking who had seen it in the flesh.

 

I'm unconvinced ....................... until I'm convinced of it's authenticity 

 

Could be a scam - potentially easy to do with IT and digital technology - just like the old 70s bootlegs were done with sh*te technology.

 

Jury is out as far as I'm concerned - until someone who knows their stuff has it in their hand and says it's a goodun   

 

Cheers

 

Richard

 

It's in a box with Schrodinger's cat

I think it looks real, and sympathise with those who have concerns. If I found it I would drive straight an expert on British stuff have validated and show it off to the world.

Pete, I'm not talking about the Record Collector "second copy" I'm talking about Denbo swearing on his collection that there are two copies out there verified by authentic real people...

 

Well if he swears it then you can't argue with him - in my experience there has never been another one, same with Mick Smith, but we can't know everyone and everything

I'm convinced Richard, even before seeing the videos. The reason why? Because I know TWO people that I'd trust with my lifetime's collection, who are not on these social media sites and who simply don't go to venues anymore, anywhere. These two guys have had two separate, totally unrelated copies in their hands. For me, that's good enough, and I'm normally very suspicious of things until I've seen them for myself.

Didnt you say there was a uk demo of nina simone 'take care of business'

Didnt you say there was a uk demo of nina simone 'take care of business'

When was that Mik?

 Guys!  When I come on here - which is pretty much most days - I always log on, so you can see I am still around, you could of just asked, eh?  

 Guys!  When I come on here - which is pretty much most days - I always log on, so you can see I am still around, you could of just asked, eh?  

 

So you still got it Nick?

Anyone else google Schodringer cat.

Anyone else google Schodringer cat.

Its an old paradoxical theory where something can be alive and dead at the same time.......it was on TV a while ago and the more you think about it the more it does your head in.  

 

 

So don`t think about it! 

So you still got it Nick?

Yes mate, still have it.

Yes mate, still have it.

Nice

Nice

Nice to have for the time being until we sell

Anyone else google Schodringer cat.

Nice to have for the time being until we sell

Until "WE" sell? Is it jointly owned Nick? Or was that a Royal "WE"?

Anyone else google Schodringer cat.

 

No, it ran away every time i tried to....

Anyone else google Schodringer cat.

 

 

i did............. 

Until "WE" sell? Is it jointly owned Nick? Or was that a Royal "WE"?

I am sure that if you are in a caring sharing relationship you will know that what is mine is her's.................................................... of course what is her's is her's too !

I am sure that if you are in a caring sharing relationship you will know that what is mine is her's.................................................... of course what is her's is her's too !

So, it's not yours, it's hers?

Edited September 10, 201410 yr by denbo

Did this story have a happy ending..??

Course it did - he's keeping it... saving us all from speculating about nothing more than how much money the bloody thing is going to sell for.

Edited October 23, 201410 yr by SoulStu

Good luck to Nick and his other half whatever it is they decide to do with the record.

Steve

What was the sketch with the second copy Denbo was talking about? Did that ever get clarified?

i did............. 

So did I........my brain hurts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

The second one that Record Collector were told about and may have reported was a demo - the owner didn't know the difference!

 

That is funny Pete….