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Always wondered what the story was on this? I first heard this i think early '75 in Mr M's..any US release? or did it come from an album? or was it Uk only?? released in '73..how did it first appear on the northern scene, i suspect a Mecca first spin but thats just a guess..anyone enlighten me?

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    Hi, Great blast from the past, i played this as a brand new release in 1973 at the "Friendship Inn"  in Keadby which we ran on a 3 nightly bassis every w/end Fri, Sat, Sun for a number of

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    yep..maybe i first heard it at Samanthas?..but i'm sure it was early 75..wasnt send him back later?

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      Yep, the Sisters Love was deffo a Samantha's biggie and virtually a staple in many a playbox. There was a spate of Mowest action in that period with Frankie Valli and Thelma Houston's "I

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Always wondered what the story was on this? I first heard this i think early '75 in Mr M's..any US release? or did it come from an album? or was it Uk only?? released in '73..how did it first appear on the northern scene, i suspect a Mecca first spin but thats just a guess..anyone enlighten me?

I don't know any answers to your questions - but, a proper blast to the past. I really used to like this - I still do.

 

Peter

 

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As far as I know it was a uk only release. Came out as a single first on Mowest in 73 MW3009 seem to remember it being played at Wigan even though it was a new release, although I could be wrong. My old friend John Clement has a better memory than me. Thelma Houston I ain't going nowhere was played at Wigan as an album track and that was a current release.

Gave it a spin a few weeks ago at Mojo in Donny - hadn't played it out for years . Went down well.

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I seem to remember John Vincent being one of the first to play it same era as " Send him back" ...

yep..maybe i first heard it at Samanthas?..but i'm sure it was early 75..wasnt send him back later?

I seem to remember John Vincent being one of the first to play it same era as " Send him back" ...

 

Yep, the Sisters Love was deffo a Samantha's biggie and virtually a staple in many a playbox. There was a spate of Mowest action in that period with Frankie Valli and Thelma Houston's "I Ain't Going Nowhere" all pretty massive. 

 

I'm still waiting for the Bobby Taylor U.S. Mowest track to take off one day......

 

Ian D  :D

yep..maybe i first heard it at Samanthas?..but i'm sure it was early 75..wasnt send him back later?

I first went to Wigan in '75 , sure " Send him back " was going big then ?

Alan Rhodes was the guy who played this first. It was a Wigan sound, played by Alan and he played it elsewhere first. I think, and only think, he was first to play The Night -  Frankie Valli, I can check when I get home this weekend, he was mentioned in a Blues and Soul I have from way back. 

 

It wasn't a Mecca sound.

Thelma Houston's "I Ain't Going Nowhere" was another UK only Mowest track

Always wondered what the story was on this? I first heard this i think early '75 in Mr M's..any US release? or did it come from an album? or was it Uk only?? released in '73..how did it first appear on the northern scene, i suspect a Mecca first spin but thats just a guess..anyone enlighten me?

 

It was pretty big in 74/75 but I doubt you heard it "early 75 in Mr M's" ................ it didn't open till Sept 75!

Another great example of the non existent oldies v newies rift, especially on the dance floor.

 

 

P.S. Written by good-old Pam Sawyer (puffs chest out with pride) :)

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I first went to Wigan in '75 , sure " Send him back " was going big then ?

 

Definitely 1975 spin Eddie, Pep played it all the time

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It was pretty big in 74/75 but I doubt you heard it "early 75 in Mr M's" ................ it didn't open till Sept 75!

Another great example of the non existent oldies v newies rift, especially on the dance floor.

 

 

P.S. Written by good-old Pam Sawyer (puffs chest out with pride) :)

 

It was pretty big in 74/75 but I doubt you heard it "early 75 in Mr M's" ................ it didn't open till Sept 75!

Another great example of the non existent oldies v newies rift, especially on the dance floor.

 

 

P.S. Written by good-old Pam Sawyer (puffs chest out with pride) :)

Hmmn..i thought i remember Mr M's being open around the same time as the first Anniversary ( Sept '74) but it was a long time ago..still they played some great records in there..often much better than the main room..

Always wondered what the story was on this? I first heard this i think early '75 in Mr M's..any US release? or did it come from an album? or was it Uk only?? released in '73..how did it first appear on the northern scene, i suspect a Mecca first spin but thats just a guess..anyone enlighten me?

Hi,

Great blast from the past, i played this as a brand new release in 1973 at the "Friendship Inn"  in Keadby which we ran on a 3 nightly bassis every w/end Fri, Sat, Sun for a number of years Jack "Tommo" Thompson who is a member on here will verify that as he used to go there, went on to be a big spin for me at the Cleethorpes Pier too, Used to order all my records at that time from Ashtons Record Stall on Scunny Market every w/end as she used to have a chart sheet which included all the weeks new releases so any label that looked soul related i used to order whether i knew them or not so got all my early Mowest including things like The Night F.Vali the new Invictus, Hotwax releases etc. and went on to get my imports from Lynn Discory (Soul Bowl early days) and J Kings in Leicester etc. Good Days indeed

I have never, ever heard of any record being played for the first time in Mr M's, but, I'll stand to be corrected. However I heard this in the main room and I loved dancing to it.

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I have never, ever heard of any record being played for the first time in Mr M's, but, I'll stand to be corrected. However I heard this in the main room and I loved dancing to it.

 

I couldn't stand M's but I have to say they did play stacks of records I heard for the first time in there, they were known records but either too common or just to ancient to be played in the main room.  Prime example "Better use your head" by Dennis D'Ell, M's was the only place I ever heard that played.

I have never, ever heard of any record being played for the first time in Mr M's, but, I'll stand to be corrected. However I heard this in the main room and I loved dancing to it.

 

I remember hearing Hi Frequency - Summertime being played in M's as a new release...I'm sure they had their moments :wink:

Been spinning this a fair bit for a couple of years at oldies venues around the nw,doesnt always go down well.

f*ck the other records, you anoraks!  :lol: we're supposed to be talking about sisters love here!!

" This remake of one of the Sisters Love classics, "I'm Learning To Trust My Man", was a song that was easily one of the biggest Northern Soul hits of all time, and so rare on an original 45. Sisters Love started out with A&M Records in the mid-sixties with a string of soul hits, hitting big with "Forget It I've Got It". They then joined Motown's new West Coast label in the late sixties, Mowest, turning out classic after classic such as "Mr. Fixit Man", "I'm Learning To Trust My Man", and "Give Me Your Love". The group were disbanded for many years, but thanks to the hard work and efforts of Vermettya Royster and Rudy Cavlo, they reformed and came back together again and recorded for Motorcity Records. They completed many tracks, including "No More Broken Hearts", "Saturday Night, Sunday Morning", "Motorcity Magic", "Something About You" and "Nowhere To Run". When we filmed "The Strange World Of Northern Soul", Rudy Calvo went one step further, and got the whole original line-up of Sisters Love back together for "I'm Learning To Trust My Man".The utterly fabulous Vermettya redefines the word "Diva" with a Capital "D". Larger than life and utterly utterly outrageous " -Ian Levine 2007- (I'll pull me hood up now).

Is the Motown one a second issue ? 

Sisters Love was reissued (TMG 1002 I think) about September '75, presumably due to northern demand, so it must have been big in the early part of the year.

Yeah it did nothing on release, went huge early 1975, hence the Tamla Motown reissue, I remember Ian Levine playing it at Wolverhampton Civic mid-75 one of the first events I ever went to

" This remake of one of the Sisters Love classics, "I'm Learning To Trust My Man", was a song that was easily one of the biggest Northern Soul hits of all time, and so rare on an original 45. Sisters Love started out with A&M Records in the mid-sixties with a string of soul hits, hitting big with "Forget It I've Got It". They then joined Motown's new West Coast label in the late sixties, Mowest, turning out classic after classic such as "Mr. Fixit Man", "I'm Learning To Trust My Man", and "Give Me Your Love". The group were disbanded for many years, but thanks to the hard work and efforts of Vermettya Royster and Rudy Cavlo, they reformed and came back together again and recorded for Motorcity Records. They completed many tracks, including "No More Broken Hearts", "Saturday Night, Sunday Morning", "Motorcity Magic", "Something About You" and "Nowhere To Run". When we filmed "The Strange World Of Northern Soul", Rudy Calvo went one step further, and got the whole original line-up of Sisters Love back together for "I'm Learning To Trust My Man".The utterly fabulous Vermettya redefines the word "Diva" with a Capital "D". Larger than life and utterly utterly outrageous " -Ian Levine 2007- (I'll pull me hood up now).

 

Dave, they had a 45 out on Man-Child in '68 prior to A&M  .. This Time Tomorrow / I Know You Love Me

 

and a release on Cal-State in '72 "Do It Right Now" which was recorded back when they were with Man-Child

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Dave, they had a 45 out on Man-Child in '68 prior to A&M  .. This Time Tomorrow / I Know You Love Me

 

and a release on Cal-State in '72 "Do It Right Now" which was recorded back when they were with Man-Child

Ok Dave, I'll pass the anorak onto you, take care of it !

so, how come despite all the chit chat and unnecessary side-lining, no one's posted the sound clip up of this gloriously raucous funky stomper...eh?, eh?....PULL YER FINGERS OUT! :D

I couldn't stand M's but I have to say they did play stacks of records I heard for the first time in there, they were known records but either too common or just to ancient to be played in the main room.  Prime example "Better use your head" by Dennis D'Ell, M's was the only place I ever heard that played.

 

What a truly terrible record! Who would want to hear it more than once?

so, how come despite all the chit chat and unnecessary side-lining, no one's posted the sound clip up of this gloriously raucous funky stomper...eh?, eh?....PULL YER FINGERS OUT! :D

Ah reet!  :hatsoff2:

 

 

Nowt wrong with that is there.

the vocals are coming down another channel...so i'm literally hearing the instrumental backing and i don't know who it is, but they were sure putting in some inspirational piano work!!

Pete S, I admit, I had never heard the Dennis D'Ell version before you mentioned it, so of course I had to go and have a listen. This site needs tighter moderation.

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Pete, I admit, I had never heard this version before you mentioned it, so of course I had to go and have a listen. This site needs tighter moderation.

 

I like every version of this song I think...there must be at least five

I like every version of this song I think...there must be at least five

I can count 7 versions of "Better Use Your Head" Pete - I like all of them

 

Little Anthony

Little Henry Lee

Marion Ryan

Barry Ryan

Mel Torme

Robin Wilson

Dennis D'Ell

It was massive, I danced to it in many venues, at the Casino it filled the floor. And even back then it was hard to find. Motown released again and interest waned. Great record

I can count 7 versions of "Better Use Your Head" Pete - I like all of them

 

Little Anthony

Little Henry Lee

Marion Ryan

Barry Ryan

Mel Torme

Robin Wilson

Dennis D'Ell

 

Well I never knew there was a Barry Ryan version, was it released?

Pete youtube it mate. Good late 60,s / early 70,s footage.

 

Cheers Steve. I still have no idea what the source of the record is though.  LP track maybe.

Thelma Houston's ,"I aint going nowhere" is very ordinary. Mrs Bolan's version beats it hand down....  

 

 

""Yep, the Sisters Love was deffo a Samantha's biggie and virtually a staple in many a playbox. There was a spate of Mowest action in that period with Frankie Valli and Thelma Houston's "I Ain't Going Nowhere" all pretty massive. "

'Try it You'll Like It' on the other side of 'Learning to Trust...' Is a very decent two stepper. Written and also recorded by Willie Hutch.

Danny Krivit's epic edit of 'Give Me Your Love' is simply sublime!

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