You good people at the Soul Mine, it would have been polite if you'd told me you were coming up to buy the collection that I had already shook hands on after my offer was accepted. Oh and of course it would have been nice if Reg Fradgley had had the guts to ring me and told me he'd sold them to someone else. Never mind the fact I was still selling my best reggae stuff this week and borrowing left right and centre so I'd got the money in place for collecting them on saturday. So thanks a lot, you deserve each other.

Hands shook?

Deal done I.M.O.

Hands shook?

Deal done I.M.O.

Agree with that.

Did the people at Soul Mine know a deal had already been done?

Hands shook?

Deal done I.M.O.

I rang him to confirm what time I should go pick them up and hand over the money on saturday - he tells me he sold them several days ago because they offered a grand more than me...after already accepting my offer

fully agree..........no f**king INTEGRITY.......SEEMS TO BE IN SHORT SUPPLY IN SOME QUARTERS OF THE SOUL SCENE

fully agree..........no f**king INTEGRITY.......SEEMS TO BE IN SHORT SUPPLY IN SOME QUARTERS OF THE SOUL SCENE

damn right bloody disgraceful behaviour I say ......

whos the soulmine?

I would think this is what is being referred too Ted.

https://www.soulminelimited.com/

whos the soulmine?

I rang him to confirm what time I should go pick them up and hand over the money on saturday - he tells me he sold them several days ago because they offered a grand more than me...after already accepting my offer

Looking at it from his p.o.v. - a grand is a decent wedge of cash.

He'd promised them to you - he should have at least let you know the situation about the higher offer.

In this situation I don't think you can blame Soulmine - they probably asked what the highest offer was and beat it, probably not knowing that he had accepted your offer.

I would think this is what is being referred too Ted.

https://www.soulminelimited.com/

Oh he sells on here cheers Tabs

Looking at it from his p.o.v. - a grand is a decent wedge of cash.

He'd promised them to you - he should have at least let you know the situation about the higher offer.

In this situation I don't think you can blame Soulmine - they probably asked what the highest offer was and beat it, probably not knowing that he had accepted your offer.

I'm more angry with the fact that I've sat here for days trying to get the money together when all he had to do was ring and say sorry, I've had a better offer, do you want to match it...or ring me and tell me he'd sold them - not make me sit here like a c*nt all week expecting to pick them up on saturday.

Secondly, he would have told them who was interested, thats how he does things, he likes to drop names in.

I'm not blaming soulmine for anything, I'm just saying whats happened and I'm extremely unhappy about it, mainly because I sold things like The Uniques - Gypsy Woman and Errroll Dunkley - The Scorcher to finance buying this collection and now I'm left without the reggae or the soul.

Mate if you'd had a fortnight like mine you'd understand why I'm so pissed off: car cost me £940 for the engine repair, get it home to find they hadn't done the exhaust which was dropping off, had to take that back for a welding job which cost me another £30, then the cd player and lighter electrics all died, bloke charged me £50 for that though I reckon it was probably a fuse! Oh, on sunday my pc crashed and thats been in, I've got it back now but theres no sound. And on monday night, I managed to erase all 9000 tracks on my ipod.

Anyone remember "Unlucky Alf" off the fast show?

Oh he sells on here cheers Tabs

Correct Ted.

I know both Alan and Derek and its not the thing they would normally do.

I think pikeys dog has probably hit the nail on the head.

They made a higher offer not even realising a deal had been done.

Agree with you entirely, he should have given you the chance to up your offer, meet him halfway, whatever... or even a call out of courtesy to say he'd decided to take a better offer.

Looking at it from his p.o.v. - a grand is a decent wedge of cash.

He'd promised them to you - he should have at least let you know the situation about the higher offer.

In this situation I don't think you can blame Soulmine - they probably asked what the highest offer was and beat it, probably not knowing that he had accepted your offer.

A hand shake is a hand shake is a hand shake is a done deal. the way I understand Pete the record collection wasn`t up for highest offer, it was up fo a straight deal. So after the deal had been done with the buyer (Pete) there shouldn`t have been any missunderstandings that is impossible for a third party to come in. It would be the same if you sell a record be it auction or set sale and after the deal has been done the seller tells you a day later "oh hang on, there is somebody just come in offering me x more". No way. IMO only of course.

but as you say Soul Unltd. may not be the one to blame as they probably didn`t know. In dubio pro reo.

Marc

Edited July 24, 200816 yr by Marc Forrest

Hands shook?

Deal done I.M.O.

Verbal agreement is a binding contact.

Sue him !

Alan

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Anyone remember "Unlucky Alf" off the fast show?

"Ohh..........................bugger !!! "

Chin up Pete

Cheers Paul

Verbal agreement is a binding contact.

Sue him !

Alan

Unfortunately not.

Whilst a gentlemans word might be is bond, these days it's not enough to sue.

A tenner deposit and a reciept outlining the agreed sale would have been though.

You good people at the Soul Mine, it would have been polite if you'd told me you were coming up to buy the collection that I had already shook hands on after my offer was accepted. Oh and of course it would have been nice if Reg Fradgley had had the guts to ring me and told me he'd sold them to someone else. Never mind the fact I was still selling my best reggae stuff this week and borrowing left right and centre so I'd got the money in place for collecting them on saturday. So thanks a lot, you deserve each other.

Not etiquette at all Pete,but business is business ,brings out the devil in people.

If it's any consolation,looking at the prices on soulmine's website, im surprised they sell many records

Not etiquette at all Pete,but business is business ,brings out the devil in people.

If it's any consolation,looking at the prices on soulmine's website, im surprised they sell many records

=====

hey pete dont worry mate - its only Reggae shit

cheer up son and put a wigan tape on !

I rang him to confirm what time I should go pick them up and hand over the money on saturday - he tells me he sold them several days ago because they offered a grand more than me...after already accepting my offer

SORRY TO HEAR THAT PETE..YOU KNOW I BACKED OUT THE DEAL. AS I KNEW YOU PUT A GOOD OFFER SHOULD HAVE OFFERED YOU 50-50 CASH DEAL OR JUST THE CASH.....REAL BUMMER DEAL...OR NO DEAL CAN UNDERSTAND WHY YOUR PISSED OFF...

SWO

PETE

JUST SEEN THE BIT ABOUT YOUR COMPUTER.

YOU CAN HAVE MY LAP TOP TILL YOU GET YOURS SORTED.

GIVE ME A CALL.

SWO

Won't be buying from soul mine now, a word is a word in my book. dont like being shit upon by anyone

PETE

JUST SEEN THE BIT ABOUT YOUR COMPUTER.

YOU CAN HAVE MY LAP TOP TILL YOU GET YOURS SORTED.

GIVE ME A CALL.

SWO

Swoz I'm alright mate, I@ve got another pc and I've also got a laptop, it's just my main pc thats the problem - I'm actually using it now, got most of it fixed but the sound has died today - not even static coming out of the speakers. I do appreciate the offer though, cheers.

Swoz I'm alright mate, I@ve got another pc and I've also got a laptop, it's just my main pc thats the problem - I'm actually using it now, got most of it fixed but the sound has died today - not even static coming out of the speakers. I do appreciate the offer though, cheers.

ANYTIME BUD.ALL THE BEST

SWO

Shite this...

Pete you know the seller he isn't the type of person to play people is he?

how would soulmine know the records were for sale, unless he approached them.. maybe he used your offer as a guideline in his mind added £1000 quid on your price and asked them if they wanted to pay £whatever..

if they never offered the money then he would have sold to you.. bet he tried it on with them without them knowing..

only a thought.. but it is more shite

Shite this...

Pete you know the seller he isn't the type of person to play people is he?

how would soulmine know the records were for sale, unless he approached them.. maybe he used your offer as a guideline in his mind added £1000 quid on your price and asked them if they wanted to pay £whatever..

if they never offered the money then he would have sold to you.. bet he tried it on with them without them knowing..

only a thought.. but it is more shite

Probably - possibly even - but he'll have mentioned my name because he mentioned theirs to me, a week after we'd first agreed on the sale

Probably - possibly even - but he'll have mentioned my name because he mentioned theirs to me, a week after we'd first agreed on the sale

Sounds like hes Played the pair of you...

Would have thought Soulmine would have been on here by now to put their side of the story

Would have thought Soulmine would have been on here by now to put their side of the story

probably not aware of the thread

I'm really sorry you've let your reggie stuff go and begged and borrowed to do the deal Pete. I know from on here that you work hard to make a go of things.

I hope things pick up a bit for you mate.

Peter

Were you buying the collection to enhance your own collection or selling them on individually to make a profit?

If the latter, then be realistic it wont be the first time or last time record dealers gazump each other.

On the plus side you have now got the funds to offer a quick cash deal for some other poor fellows collection down on his luck selling to pay his mortgage etc.

What a way to make a living.

Ed

Were you buying the collection to enhance your own collection or selling them on individually to make a profit?

If the latter, then be realistic it wont be the first time or last time record dealers gazump each other.

On the plus side you have now got the funds to offer a quick cash deal for some other poor fellows collection down on his luck selling to pay his mortgage etc.

What a way to make a living.

Ed

What a pointless post. You know exactly why I was buying them, because I make my living from selling records. And I don't have the cash to offer anyone else, I'd only got £1500 of my own money and I'd borrowed £2500 of someone else's money which of course I will now give them back as I haven't used it.

How do you know this guy was down on his luck or unable to pay his mortgage?

Last time he sold anything it was because he wasn't getting any dj bookings.

Yeah, what a way to make a living indeed, worse than f*cking shylock I am..

I would think this is what is being referred too Ted.

https://www.soulminelimited.com/

Spooked me when i clicked that, Dickie Wonder started up & it's my ring tone, was searching all around me for the phone

I'm more angry with the fact that I've sat here for days trying to get the money together when all he had to do was ring and say sorry, I've had a better offer, do you want to match it...or ring me and tell me he'd sold them - not make me sit here like a c*nt all week expecting to pick them up on saturday.

Secondly, he would have told them who was interested, thats how he does things, he likes to drop names in.

I'm not blaming soulmine for anything, I'm just saying whats happened and I'm extremely unhappy about it, mainly because I sold things like The Uniques - Gypsy Woman and Errroll Dunkley - The Scorcher to finance buying this collection and now I'm left without the reggae or the soul.

Mate if you'd had a fortnight like mine you'd understand why I'm so pissed off: car cost me £940 for the engine repair, get it home to find they hadn't done the exhaust which was dropping off, had to take that back for a welding job which cost me another £30, then the cd player and lighter electrics all died, bloke charged me £50 for that though I reckon it was probably a fuse! Oh, on sunday my pc crashed and thats been in, I've got it back now but theres no sound. And on monday night, I managed to erase all 9000 tracks on my ipod.

Anyone remember "Unlucky Alf" off the fast show?

Sorry Pete, not laughing at your predicament, it was the 'Unlucky Alf' comment

Shit trick in my opinion ! Handshake means deal !!!

Does that mean the cheap KCP's is off the menu now ?

PETE

JUST SEEN THE BIT ABOUT YOUR COMPUTER.

YOU CAN HAVE MY LAP TOP TILL YOU GET YOURS SORTED.

GIVE ME A CALL.

SWO

Great post

See everyone loves you really

Great post

See everyone loves you really

well everyone except Reg and Tomangoes

What a pointless post. You know exactly why I was buying them, because I make my living from selling records. And I don't have the cash to offer anyone else, I'd only got £1500 of my own money and I'd borrowed £2500 of someone else's money which of course I will now give them back as I haven't used it.

How do you know this guy was down on his luck or unable to pay his mortgage?

Last time he sold anything it was because he wasn't getting any dj bookings.

Yeah, what a way to make a living indeed, worse than f*cking shylock I am..

Just to say it isn't this Reg he means

Bad luck Pete, I know you must be gutted that you've been let down like this. I won't have anybody say anything bad about you-I mean you've even sent me free records! How cool is that for an unscrupulous record dealer!!!

well everyone except Reg and Tomangoes

& F****** me !!!! Got engrossed in this & forgot the record I was watching on ebay ! Been keeping my eye open for ages for an afordable 'Themes- No explination etc' Audition copy.................... & it went for $35.70

What a pointless post. You know exactly why I was buying them, because I make my living from selling records. And I don't have the cash to offer anyone else, I'd only got £1500 of my own money and I'd borrowed £2500 of someone else's money which of course I will now give them back as I haven't used it.

How do you know this guy was down on his luck or unable to pay his mortgage?

Last time he sold anything it was because he wasn't getting any dj bookings.

Yeah, what a way to make a living indeed, worse than f*cking shylock I am..

............Merchant of wombourne don't sound right at all pete

Edited July 24, 200816 yr by SteveJohnston

I'm more angry with the fact that I've sat here for days trying to get the money together when all he had to do was ring and say sorry, I've had a better offer, do you want to match it...or ring me and tell me he'd sold them - not make me sit here like a c*nt all week expecting to pick them up on saturday.

Secondly, he would have told them who was interested, thats how he does things, he likes to drop names in.

I'm not blaming soulmine for anything, I'm just saying whats happened and I'm extremely unhappy about it, mainly because I sold things like The Uniques - Gypsy Woman and Errroll Dunkley - The Scorcher to finance buying this collection and now I'm left without the reggae or the soul.

Mate if you'd had a fortnight like mine you'd understand why I'm so pissed off: car cost me £940 for the engine repair, get it home to find they hadn't done the exhaust which was dropping off, had to take that back for a welding job which cost me another £30, then the cd player and lighter electrics all died, bloke charged me £50 for that though I reckon it was probably a fuse! Oh, on sunday my pc crashed and thats been in, I've got it back now but theres no sound. And on monday night, I managed to erase all 9000 tracks on my ipod.

Anyone remember "Unlucky Alf" off the fast show?

OK, easy solution is preserve the £940, get yer arse down here, hand over the dosh and then plunder my Reggae collection.

What else do you need to know? All first pressings LOL - I checked 'em - they still have the original 'Beverly's' stickers on 'em plus I nearly got lynched trying to buy 'em until the Montego Bay cab driver sorted things out LOL.....

F*%k the welchers Pete. Come down here and I'll put a smile on your face.

Don't forget the £940 OK?

Ian D

Have you checked out this https://www.soulminelimited.com/newarrivals.htm

OK, easy solution is preserve the £940, get yer arse down here, hand over the dosh and then plunder my Reggae collection.

What else do you need to know? All first pressings LOL - I checked 'em - they still have the original 'Beverly's' stickers on 'em plus I nearly got lynched trying to buy 'em until the Montego Bay cab driver sorted things out LOL.....

F*%k the welchers Pete. Come down here and I'll put a smile on your face.

Don't forget the £940 OK?

Ian D

Well I can bring a lot more than that Ian but it's really reggae 45's that I collect, not albums unfortunately - if I bought the albums you mentioned I'm taking a real risk as it's not something I know a lot about. But maybe.

& F****** me !!!! Got engrossed in this & forgot the record I was watching on ebay ! Been keeping my eye open for ages for an afordable 'Themes- No explination etc' Audition copy.................... & it went for $35.70

Well at least that's cheered me up

Looking at it from his p.o.v. - a grand is a decent wedge of cash.

He'd promised them to you - he should have at least let you know the situation about the higher offer.

In this situation I don't think you can blame Soulmine - they probably asked what the highest offer was and beat it, probably not knowing that he had accepted your offer.

It does not matter whatever the sum was - a deal made , is a deal done , full stop .......

When we we selling our previous house , the sale was going through with no problems : I was then offered £6K more than the deal by a party who had made a previous , and unsuccessfull offer , who were desperate for the house .........

I refused , despite being tempted by the £6K , and stuck to the deal with the buying party .......

As stated - A DEAL IS A DEAL .........

Malc Burton

I think Soulmine should offer you the chance to buy them at their cost plus a small admin fee Pete if its worth it to you.

If the deal had been done in England its morally accepted but not legally however if it had been done in Scotland its both morally and legally bound. Sorry about the useless information!

Another Option Soulmine could do not to tarnish their reputation is do a 50/50 split you Pete!

ATB Steve

If they dont come on here within 48 hours to explain themselves we should all boycott them!

Well at least that's cheered me up

I couldn't help but chuckle at the irony of it after, It was a deffinate Alf 'Oooh Bugger' moment !

I think Soulmine should offer you the chance to buy them at their cost plus a small admin fee Pete if its worth it to you.

If the deal had been done in England its morally accepted but not legally however if it had been done in Scotland its both morally and legally bound. Sorry about the useless information!

Another Option Soulmine could do not to tarnish their reputation is do a 50/50 split you Pete!

ATB Steve

If they dont come on here within 48 hours to explain themselves we should all boycott them!

I don't understand why people keep saying soulmine tarnished their reputation or did anything wrong. Soulmine did not have any sort of agreement with Pete. The seller did. The seller is the one who breached any deal. Maybe it was slightly shady, but the fact that soulmine managed to get the collection from under pete doesn't mean that they breached any agreement, etc. The seller is the one who should be badmouthed here.

Pete sorry to hear mate , was the seller Reg

Pete sorry to hear mate , was the seller Reg

is Reg-----Brian Fradgley

is Reg-----Brian Fradgley

No Keith .

I don't understand why people keep saying soulmine tarnished their reputation or did anything wrong. Soulmine did not have any sort of agreement with Pete. The seller did. The seller is the one who breached any deal. Maybe it was slightly shady, but the fact that soulmine managed to get the collection from under pete doesn't mean that they breached any agreement, etc. The seller is the one who should be badmouthed here.

It depends if the buyers got any ethics or not doesn't it really. If I'd known they'd got an arrangement which had been agreed on, I wouldn't have undermined it.

Pete sorry to hear mate , was the seller Reg

Yes mate.

Well I can bring a lot more than that Ian but it's really reggae 45's that I collect, not albums unfortunately - if I bought the albums you mentioned I'm taking a real risk as it's not something I know a lot about. But maybe.

All my reggae 45's are 70's releases mainly, all mint and some nice bits and pieces including some good obscure reggae Soul covers - Lloyd Chalmers "I'm Gonna Love You A Little Bit More Baby" (Barry White), Cedric Brooks "South African Reggae" (Hamilton Bohannon)and a GREAT version of the Kinks "Lola" by Nicky Thomas on Trojan. Probably not enough raries there to make it worthwhile though..........

Apparently original Dub is the new Northern Soul...........

Ian D