arnie j Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 hi all, just listened to this on cd, brill tune in m opinion, remember it being played in the early 80s but cant remember where, leicester oddfellows ? anyway, i love it, which jades is it ? the same guys as im where its at ? think there was a couple of groups with this name, what label and how rare how much etc ? any info appreciated{wheres boba ? bet he would know}ps, whos lil' lavair ? cheers jason Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
honky Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 hi all, just listened to this on cd, brill tune in m opinion, remember it being played in the early 80s but cant remember where, leicester oddfellows ? anyway, i love it, which jades is it ? the same guys as im where its at ? think there was a couple of groups with this name, what label and how rare how much etc ? any info appreciated{wheres boba ? bet he would know}ps, whos lil' lavair ? cheers jason Actually they're from outside of LA. The funk side "Cold heat" was reissued by Now Again (associated with Stones Throw). The reissue had the mono cut of "Cold heat" on the flip, not "I'll be so happy". Here's the full story: https://www.nowagainrecords.com/lil_lavair_...jades_cold_heat Photos of the band and a black & white scan of the original are here (the original label is red): https://www.nowagainrecords.com/lil_lavair_...us_jades_photos - honky Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mikevague Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 (edited) Actually they're from outside of LA. The funk side "Cold heat" was reissued by Now Again (associated with Stones Throw). The reissue had the mono cut of "Cold heat" on the flip, not "I'll be so happy". Here's the full story: https://www.nowagainrecords.com/lil_lavair_...jades_cold_heat Photos of the band and a black & white scan of the original are here (the original label is red): https://www.nowagainrecords.com/lil_lavair_...us_jades_photos - honky Right on, Honky. They were from Upland, Ca. (next to Pomona, 50 miles East of Los Angeles). The label (Lennan) made very small local pressings of country, polka, and square dance 45s...Lil' Lavair is one of maybe 5 or 6 contemporary releases. And all are very rare. All the band members were supposedly tracked by Eothan (from Stones Throw records) and not ONE had a decent copy to master the re- release from (the tapes are MIA). The Lennan label owner's only copy of "I'd be so happy" was ruined on that side, so it wasn't used for the reissue. This explains why only the b-side, "cold heat", was used. I would have loaned em' my copy, which is M-. Too late now, oh well. I have only found it three times in 25 years...the other 2 copies belong to members on this forum now You know who you are... I left something out.....The label owner threw away all the stock sitting in his garage 15 years ago. He kept one copy of everything so I was told.. That has a lot to do with it never popping up for sale. I have never seen it on Ebay or any lists in the last several years... Anyone? Edited December 7, 2008 by MikeVague Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jaco Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 Actually they're from outside of LA. The funk side "Cold heat" was reissued by Now Again (associated with Stones Throw). The reissue had the mono cut of "Cold heat" on the flip, not "I'll be so happy". Here's the full story: https://www.nowagainrecords.com/lil_lavair_...jades_cold_heat Photos of the band and a black & white scan of the original are here (the original label is red): https://www.nowagainrecords.com/lil_lavair_...us_jades_photos - honky Fabulous uplifting record. One of the many stand out tracks from Honky's wonderful CD's. Can we expect another serving? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 Right on, Honky. They were from Upland, Ca. (next to Pomona, 50 miles East of Los Angeles). The label (Lennan) made very small local pressings of country, polka, and square dance 45s...Lil' Lavair is one of maybe 5 or 6 contemporary releases. And all are very rare. All the band members were supposedly tracked by Eothan (from Stones Throw records) and not ONE had a decent copy to master the re- release from (the tapes are MIA). The Lennan label owner's only copy of "I'd be so happy" was ruined on that side, so it wasn't used for the reissue. This explains why only the b-side, "cold heat", was used. I would have loaned em' my copy, which is M-. Too late now, oh well. I have only found it three times in 25 years...the other 2 copies belong to members on this forum now You know who you are... I left something out.....The label owner threw away all the stock sitting in his garage 15 years ago. He kept one copy of everything so I was told.. That has a lot to do with it never popping up for sale. I have never seen it on Ebay or any lists in the last several years... Anyone? i think kevin cox had one on ebay in the last few years but i could be remembering wrong Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 i think kevin cox had one on ebay in the last few years but i could be remembering wrong i think i'm wrong and that he had a different lennan title up Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
arnie j Posted December 7, 2008 Author Share Posted December 7, 2008 thanks for the brill info guys, does anyone know who discovered it and where was it found etc ? who played it first and where ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
jocko Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 thanks for the brill info guys, does anyone know who discovered it and where was it found etc ? who played it first and where ? I think my first memory was Gary Rushbrooke, top dj, occasional plays about 80ish?? Assume it may have been played before him though Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest James Trouble Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 (edited) The history of the band has been pretty well researched, thanks to the work of the guys in the US, but I'd be interested to know more about it's 'scene history'. I've asked a few folk about the records history and those that know it all seem to give different opinions ranging from "Richard Searling spin", "Stafford spin", to "it's a bit of an oldie, but I can't remember ever hearing it out". I guess it's rarity got in the way of it ever becoming popular? Someone mentioned Tim Brown put it on a Wigan CD? Did it ever get played at Wigan? From a musical point of view, in my opinion, it's one of the best double siders around. The funk side, Cold Heat, is without doubt one of the top 10 funk 45s. It's outstanding. Maybe only the Groove Merchants on Suimi and Carleen and The Groovers 'Can We Rap' pip it to the top spot for me. If it was as common as Jo Jama the flip side 'I'll Be So Happy', which is a similar sort of bouncey up lifting style to Jo Jama, would be huge on the northern scene. Surely? It pisses all over My Life IMO. Edited December 7, 2008 by James Trouble Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Phil Shields Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 fabulous tune...........so it must have been you played it at rugby then. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest James Trouble Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 (edited) fabulous tune...........so it must have been you played it at rugby then. I can't remember, I was royally drunk. But probably, yeah Edited December 7, 2008 by James Trouble Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 fabulous tune...........so it must have been you played it at rugby then. Totally agree absolutely love it xx Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simon M Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 Awesome funk side , not sure about the soul side though Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
KevH Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 (edited) Hi guys. I know someone who has an Emidisc of this backed with a Lesley Gore track. Credited to The Fabulous Jades.Purchased back in the day,but probably not a Searling spin. My buddy will come on SS later to fill in details,date/cost/who purchased from.,,Kev btw ,great tune James. Edited December 7, 2008 by KevH Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest James Trouble Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 Hi guys. I know someone who has an Emidisc of this backed with a Lesley Gore track. Credited to The Fabulous Jades.Purchased back in the day,but probably not a Searling spin. My buddy will come on SS later to fill in details,date/cost/who purchased from.,,Kev btw ,great tune James. So what did Tim Brown put it on a Wigan CD for? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
KevH Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 So what did Tim Brown put it on a Wigan CD for? i said probably James. .Some tracks are put on cd's that should have been played. Really, don't know the answer to the question.Tim Brown will tho' . Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
arnie j Posted December 7, 2008 Author Share Posted December 7, 2008 I think my first memory was Gary Rushbrooke, top dj, occasional plays about 80ish?? Assume it may have been played before him though think you are spot on there mate, gary rushbrooke at leicester early 80s, thats where i first heard it anyway Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest James Trouble Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 any chance of posting up the funk side dude ? never heard the funk side Youtube link here: "> Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 So what did Tim Brown put it on a Wigan CD for? Maybe Gary Rushbrook played it back end of Wigan?? Did Tim put it on a Wigan CD? I don't recall seeing it on one? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pauldonnelly Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 Maybe Gary Rushbrook played it back end of Wigan?? Did Tim put it on a Wigan CD? I don't recall seeing it on one? he did. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest gordon russell Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 top tune ...THATS WHAT WE WANT FECKING DANCE MUSIC Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 he did. big record for Gary Spencer too towards end of 80's. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Dark Horse Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 big record for Gary Spencer too towards end of 80's. Chalky,wasn't Jerry & the Uniques also on the same label,titled(Yes he Will) wasn't this played c/u? at some time. Regards. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
arnie j Posted December 7, 2008 Author Share Posted December 7, 2008 Chalky,wasn't Jerry & the Uniques also on the same label,titled(Yes he Will) wasn't this played c/u? at some time. Regards. i think you are right there bud, lennan label ? another brill tune which i first heard at stafford Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Phil Shields Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 Chalky,wasn't Jerry & the Uniques also on the same label,titled(Yes he Will) wasn't this played c/u? at some time. Regards. WASN'T IT THE DETROIT SOUL BANDITS DON'T BREAK MY HEART C/U Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 WASN'T IT THE DETROIT SOUL BANDITS DON'T BREAK MY HEART C/U it was Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest SteveO Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Totally agree Ted...."Lonely man" the official A side is in my all time top 10. An absolute belter of a side with some driving brass.....which always reminds me of the brass section in the "Pinkertones - It's not the way you walk" on Queen G records. Sides like "lonely man" are the essence of northern. This and The Pinkertones are never far from my decks....be great for someone to play these out again... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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