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CAN SOMEONE HELP I'VE GOT A 12" COPY ON HAM SEM RECORDS BUT THE DATE ON THE LABEL IS 1990 SO IS IT A 2ND PRESS? WHATS IT WORTH CHEERS SAM.

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CAN SOMEONE HELP I'VE GOT A 12" COPY ON HAM SEM RECORDS BUT THE DATE ON THE LABEL IS 1990 SO IS IT A 2ND PRESS? WHATS IT WORTH CHEERS SAM.

Its the reissue and I think is about the same price and an import 12"?

Came out in 1976, originally on the small CSC logo then on Hamito-Semitica

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THIS GROUP IS OUT OF "HAWTHORNE CALIFORNIA" ALSO KNOWN EARLIER AS "THE FOUR BUDDIES FEATURED W/GODFATHER STRIVERS S.B." ON THE SAME LABEL. Like John said originally on C.S.C. , i have the original test pressing (scan attached) never seen the 12" any chance of a scan.

Brett

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THIS GROUP IS OUT OF "HAWTHORNE CALIFORNIA" ALSO KNOWN EARLIER AS "THE FOUR BUDDIES FEATURED W/GODFATHER STRIVERS S.B." ON THE SAME LABEL. Like John said originally on C.S.C. , i have the original test pressing (scan attached) never seen the 12" any chance of a scan.

Brett

Oh yes you have Brett.

You've seen mine & also my 7" as well (ooerr missus!)

While on here can someone confirm if the CSC copy was before the Hamito - Semitica copy as they both have the same matrix number along with the 12" copy (off the top of my head think it's 104).

Will post a pic of said 12" copy later.

Nice test press Brett :lol:

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Oh yes you have Brett.

You've seen mine & also my 7" as well (ooerr missus!)

While on here can someone confirm if the CSC copy was before the Hamito - Semitica copy as they both have the same matrix number along with the 12" copy (off the top of my head think it's 104).

Will post a pic of said 12" copy later.

Nice test press Brett :lol:

Have i ?, yeah CSC definately first Martino, guess we see and hear that many records we (i) forget laugh.gif

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THIS GROUP IS OUT OF "HAWTHORNE CALIFORNIA" ALSO KNOWN EARLIER AS "THE FOUR BUDDIES FEATURED W/GODFATHER STRIVERS S.B." ON THE SAME LABEL. Like John said originally on C.S.C. , i have the original test pressing (scan attached) never seen the 12" any chance of a scan.

Brett

are you sure they are the same group as the four buddies and you're not getting that from someone's confused ebay auction? I know someone who knew one of the four buddies and said they were from kentucky but recorded in LA.

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are you sure they are the same group as the four buddies and you're not getting that from someone's confused ebay auction? I know someone who knew one of the four buddies and said they were from kentucky but recorded in LA.

Just out of interest this was a Richard spin at Snaith cica 1980 ( on csc ) covered up as the natural four, for some reason he didn,t play it much, i allways liked it, best, Arthur.

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are you sure they are the same group as the four buddies and you're not getting that from someone's confused ebay auction? I know someone who knew one of the four buddies and said they were from kentucky but recorded in LA.

Only know what i was told Bob, not going to second guess you, so i imagine you're right you live in the States and i live in the foul and ugly bad lands of South Yorkshire England............ where we know very little :D

Brett

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Just out of interest this was a Richard spin at Snaith cica 1980 ( on csc ) covered up as the natural four, for some reason he didn,t play it much, i allways liked it, best, Arthur.

hi arthur..first time i heard it was when you played it at the carlton club in the early 90's, i remember buying about half a dozen copies off you for the princely sum of 2 quid each, wish i still had one, hope you & maria are keeping well....trev

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hi arthur..first time i heard it was when you played it at the carlton club in the early 90's, i remember buying about half a dozen copies off you for the princely sum of 2 quid each, wish i still had one, hope you & maria are keeping well....trev

Hi Trev, good thanks, yep! same ole same ole, had a 100 count box of the Ham release and even that one is tricky to find now, sounds good played out today tho :thumbsup:

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Just out of interest this was a Richard spin at Snaith cica 1980 ( on csc ) covered up as the natural four, for some reason he didn,t play it much, i allways liked it, best, Arthur.

Halcyon days Arthur :shades: . I remember Sam playing it as "The Carstairs" - probably 1981.

Hope you are well - like your avatar!

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Was there an earlier 12 than the 1990 release? I always thought that was the first 12 issue?..........

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how different is the 12''mix ?

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Some other interesting 12 " tunes on Ham Sem namely :

Tony Love ' My Feelings Will Never Change ' and Charles Scott ' Secret Love ' both 1981 releases.

Also, the album from 1980 by Motivation ' Steppin Into Now' which has a nice two stepper tune on. :unsure:

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The Four Buddies probably comes from the fact that the Hamito Semitica label mentions "Four Buddies"

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Was there an earlier 12 than the 1990 release? I always thought that was the first 12 issue?..........

theres one on ebay 220355678284 says its 1976 but i aint asked the seller, oh and its £150 buy it now

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Scan

That reminds me, I was once in a warehouse and a pile of 100 or more of these was stood in a 1/2" puddle wedging an internal door open.

I meant to pick a couple up, on the way out, but forgot.

:thumbup:

Sean

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how different is the 12''mix ?

I had a ham sem 7" and !2" for sale last yr and as far as i was aware they both sounded the same??

Was always led to believe this was one of those legit 2nd release by the band jobs??

Always reminds me of LEGENDS -FEAR NOT at start of record :thumbup:

Also seem to recall seeing the 12" on gemm not long since for a tidy sum of money.

A few 7's have turned up recently but have to admit i saw more of the 1st label popping up a few yrs ago.

Edited by NORTHERN NEV

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The HSR 12" and the CSC 7" tracks are identical, both 2:22 mins long. Now why do I have both?

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The HSR 12" and the CSC 7" tracks are identical, both 2:22 mins long. Now why do I have both?

Too much money???

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Was there an earlier 12 than the 1990 release? I always thought that was the first 12 issue?..........

So, back to my original question above..... Anyone?

My 12 has got the 1976 date on, and 1990 too. So I always thought it was, like, an afterthought kind of affair........

Was there simply a "straight outta '76" 12?.............

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On 18/02/2009 at 13:23, Paul McKay said:

The Four Buddies probably comes from the fact that the Hamito Semitica label mentions "Four Buddies"

According to You tube video one of the group was James Bryant, perhaps we can find out more

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