Hello,

I'm looking for a copy of Rufus Wonder 'Under the Moon' in a vg+ or better cond. ? Anyone??

Thanks

Hello,

I'm looking for a copy of Rufus Wonder 'Under the Moon' in a vg+ or better cond. ? Anyone??

Thanks

I have a nice condition white demo which I may sell, what are you offering.

Regards - Mark Bicknell.

Which one you after the LENDO or the Original LANDO version.

Which one you after the LENDO or the Original LANDO version.

Are they not simply out of different pressing plants for various regional market places?

Are they not simply out of different pressing plants for various regional market places?

yep,think that's correct,the re-issue is on a blue label not white.

Are they not simply out of different pressing plants for various regional market places?

That's intriguing, an a new one one me....I'd always understood that the LENDO copies were re-issues... ...so what's the regional market theory then Dave ...?

Don't think the bootleg guide mentions this does it?

Don't think the bootleg guide mentions this does it?

Manship price guide lists the Lando blue issue and the Lendo white demo as originals, the Lendo w/demo being the rarer item.

Some further information regarding the Lando/Lendo issue/demo copies here..

The blue Lendo issue is clearly a reissue.

https://capitolsoulclub.homestead.com/RufusWonderSpecial.html

Hello,

I'm looking for a copy of Rufus Wonder 'Under the Moon' in a vg+ or better cond. ? Anyone??

Thanks

GOT WHITE DEMO £100, BLUE REISSUE £10,OE DUNLOP

what's the regional market theory then Dave ...?

Hi Cliff,

Been a while since I had a blue (or in Carl Fortnums case a white label***) LAndo copy...weren't they RCA pressed...possibly for the East Coast, whereas the LEndo copies (never seen a stocker) are Chicago born for the Mid-West market? Maybe? For fun I like to compare this scenario to Cody Black's 'Gone gone gone' on blue labelled RCA pressed copies (East Coast market place) versus the red label Detroit pressed ones (for local people!).

The LEndo copies certainly look soooooo Chicago pressed with the drop-shadow font style, and the tell-tale short flat-edge (for want of a better term*****) running for 15mm on the edge of the label itself (on the 'So upset' side).

***- yes a LAndo white label promo as opposed to the blue label stocker...same label design...very nice and RARE.

***** - is there a technical term for this short flat-edge bit of the edge of Chicago pressed labels?! Wonder which pressing plant is responsible?

Side-note: Rufus put the spelling variation down to a possible simple spelling error, as mentioned in my chat with the man himself >>> Read Here <<<

Scans of the blue LANDO original

and the recent Reissue:

Haven't got a white LENDO or seen a blue LENDO or white LANDO

(will only sell the re-issue - tenner if anyone wants it?)

Cheers

Paul

Edited December 5, 200915 yr by paultp

If you're still looking for this there is a mint demo (Lendo) just gone up on ebay [here] - you'll need to beat my snipe though

LENDO is a boot possibly via Canada

white demo from popsike,

If you're still looking for this there is a mint demo (Lendo) just gone up on ebay [here] - you'll need to beat my snipe though

Looks in amazing condition

white demo from popsike,

There you go. That does it for me. Lando original, Lendo suspect???

Original Lando is factory stamped in run out with "Sheldon" or simliar. It is very small but deffo a stamp.

LENDO is a boot possibly via Canada

Got to be joking!! I'm selling the Rufus Wonder, which I purchased in Detroit in 1985!!

So basically no-one knows definitively whether the Lendos are boots or not?

Got to be joking!! I'm selling the Rufus Wonder, which I purchased in Detroit in 1985!!

why bootleg it with a differently spelt label ?...sureley this looses the attempt to deceive??

got to go with JM PRICE GUIDE which indicates both as legitate,perhaps funkyfeet has the details to back up the Canadian boot theory,c'mon Mark,let's be avvinit!

Edited December 22, 200915 yr by dancingcollector

what appears strange to me is the "deep" lettering i.e. three dimensional text on both the dark blue "new" LANDO disc and the "LENDO" demos, whereas the definite original LANDO issues and demos are plain "flat" lettering... very odd that the first two issues ive mentioned above should adopt similar styled lettering on their label titles ???..... there was a mini-flood of these white LENDO demos almost 20 years ago and i still have the same opinion of them today as i did then...

Edited December 23, 200915 yr by bitchdj

what appears strange to me is the "deep" lettering i.e. three dimensional text on both the dark blue "new" LANDO disc and the "LENDO" demos, whereas the definite original LANDO issues and demos are plain "flat" lettering... very odd that the first two issues ive mentioned above should adopt similar styled lettering on their label titles ???..... there was a mini-flood of these white LENDO demos almost 20 years ago and i still have the same opinion of them today as i did then...

Im assuming that's cos they copied lettering on much later "dark blue" bootleg from Lendo copy.

As far as I know copies turned up more like 25 years ago and maybe earlier. Found by Larry Pietowski [Ray] on a Detroit flea along with "Do you want a boy" and "So What"by Carl Carlton.

He sent me copy of each and "So what" went to Guy as an unknown so that hopefully gives an idea of when.

Few years later in a garage in Detroit and amidst other rare 45s were 5 copies of the Rufus on Lendo. Seller had had them for years

ROD

THE LENDO WHITE DEMOS (CHICAGO PRESS) ARE ORIGINALS, THO I THINK A QUANTITY OF THEM TURNED UP IN THE EARLY-MID NINETIES. I BORT ONE THEN OFF ANDY DYSON,

BRI PINCH

Edited December 23, 200915 yr by bri pinch

"Im assuming that's cos they copied lettering on much later "dark blue" bootleg from Lendo copy.

As far as I know copies turned up more like 25 years ago and maybe earlier. Found by Larry Pietowski [Ray] on a Detroit flea along with "Do you want a boy" and "So What"by Carl Carlton.

He sent me copy of each and "So what" went to Guy as an unknown so that hopefully gives an idea of when.

Few years later in a garage in Detroit and amidst other rare 45s were 5 copies of the Rufus on Lendo. Seller had had them for years"

Good enough for me i think? White Lendo's are originals....thanks for info Rod.

i dont think the white lendo`s are boots just coz a box of them turned up 20 years ago. i think the pressing plant in chicago gave up on it when they got the label wrong and never released the blue lendo stock as they`d lost enuff money already and besides its never been a big enough record to warrant bootlegging............ i know the blue lando has been done recently but i still dont know why coz its never been anymore than a collectors 45

dave

Could always ring Rufus and ask him! Phone numbers on his webpage!

https://www.rufuswonder.com/r_contact.html

have a look at this recent ebay item,surely this confirms tht the LENDO'S are o.k. https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220529644499&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

ps,this could have gone in LOOK AT YOUR BOX....by the way starter,did you aquire a copy?

They are OK in my opinion - and yes, I would say it was a fair 100 quid 45 for the Lendo WDJ.

Cheers

Richard

Got to be joking!! I'm selling the Rufus Wonder, which I purchased in Detroit in 1985!!

Not joking 80's Boot Canada just across water from Detroit.

Not joking 80's Boot Canada just across water from Detroit.

DON'T THINK THEY ARE, LENDO WHITE DEMO'S 100% ORIGINAL.

BRI PINCH.

Edited December 29, 200915 yr by bri pinch

If you look in the earlier JM guides he didn't have the proper LANDO copy listed at all , this is why people think the LENDO copies are real. Truth and fiction become one at times.

Scan of my copy

Edited December 29, 200915 yr by funkyfeet

If you look in the earlier JM guides he didn't have the proper LANDO copy listed at all , this is why people think the LENDO copies are real. Truth and fiction become one at times.

Scan of my copy

WELL IT CERTAINLY LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE BEEN FOOLED BY THEM, ME INCLUDED. CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY PRESSED IT UP THO, ESPECIALLY IN THE MID 80T'S AS I DON'T THINK IT WAS MEGA POPULAR.

BRI PINCH.

If you look in the earlier JM guides he didn't have the proper LANDO copy listed at all , this is why people think the LENDO copies are real. Truth and fiction become one at times.

Scan of my copy

but the vinyl is right. its not 80`s vinyl at all.everything else looks ok with it. and besides if it was done in mid eighties thats 25 years ago and people cant keep there mouths shut for that long. the rumour would have surfaced long before now

dave

have a look at this recent ebay item,surely this confirms tht the LENDO'S are o.k. https://cgi.ebay.co.u...e=STRK:MEWAX:IT

ps,this could have gone in LOOK AT YOUR BOX....by the way starter,did you aquire a copy?

How does that confirm anything at all?

The fact that it had a few bids and went for a decent price proves nothing. It wouldn't be the first time that a boot (if it is) has fooled a few people and

with the various views shown on this thread so far, who knows?

That is the very copy that I've just been offered, and which I refused.

Lando for me.

-Kev.

The re-issue 'put out by the artist himself a few years back' according to this:

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RUFUS-WONDER-UNDER-THE-MOON-GR8-NORTHERN-SOUL-LISTEN_W0QQitemZ130371211811QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Records?hash=item1e5abad223

If you look in the earlier JM guides he didn't have the proper LANDO copy listed at all , this is why people think the LENDO copies are real. Truth and fiction become one at times.

Scan of my copy

I was told that the LENDO copies were a 60's USA bootleg, done in the 60's, not for the Northern Soul scene!

I was told that the LENDO copies were a 60's USA bootleg, done in the 60's, not for the Northern Soul scene!

Rufus Wonder said in my interview a few weeks ago that it was a typo at initial pressing time

Rufus Wonder said in my interview a few weeks ago that it was a typo at initial pressing time

THANKS FOR THAT BOB. THE VINYL AND THE TYPEFACE ALL LOOKED GOOD TO ME. ITS STILL SOMETHING THE BOOTLEGGERS HAVE NEVER GOT PERFECT.THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A DIFFERENCE.

DAVE

I have a blue LANDO issue - which turns up less often than the demo from what I can tell and a white label LENDO.

Instinct, nothing more, tells me that the LENDO is a later press, even though that may mean later in the 60ts............

The blue LANDO issue has a sheldon stamp, Chicago as indicated.

The white (demo) LENDO do not.

My guess might be that someone had them pressed later as all the ones I have seen are super fresh vinyl. They certainly haven't done the rounds like the LANDO copies. Of course they could just have been stored for years, but again instinct tells me they were made a fresh to filter out, but just never shifted back when ever.

So for me LANDO white and blues = first press

LENDO = later press.

THANKS FOR THAT BOB. THE VINYL AND THE TYPEFACE ALL LOOKED GOOD TO ME. ITS STILL SOMETHING THE BOOTLEGGERS HAVE NEVER GOT PERFECT.THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A DIFFERENCE.

DAVE

there is a later press, he also talked about a later press