Soul Scene Villains

[spike1]

Larry used to come over to Chesterfield to the record centre where we used to hang out instead of school

He was a scary guy when you were a 16 year old kid!

Sssssspike

[Guest Rich]

NEVER

I spit at the thought

It's been a right old love in since Psycho kissed THE badge at Ted's testimonial. However, some of your lot were noted hiding behind their wives in a boozer in Ilson prior to one of Roberts doos at one of the get togethers (apparently).....

Edited July 27, 2011 by Rich

[Guest roggert]

sweet

an erudite informed well written example of real english , thank you for your etemology i had to think -something my brain is not doing very well of late!

[Guest enchantedrythm]

In case anyone is interested, answers to the 4 questions posted previously, however,

Disclaimer

The information below does not mean in any way that a/ I did it, b/ took part in it and c/was a knowing party to it,

so please don't pile in with self righteous comments.

1/Durophet M( Green &Browns 15mg and Red &Browns 30mg) were spansules, slow release, that is the cap was full of very small balls white with a small dark speckle, this was almost identical in appearance to soap powder.

So you emptied the cap for yourself and filled it full of Persil, 8 a quid mate.

2/Roche 5 Valium, in those days I reckon most women over the age of 30 where prescribed this and it was readily available, your girlfriends' parents bathroom cabinet was usually a good starting point.

And as every one who's bed time reading was MIMS knows, Roche did not make gear, but the 5mg Valium tabs where a dead ringer for non SK&F Dex ,once you scratched off the Roche 5 from the non scored side of the tab,(pencil sharpener blades where good for this) then voila 10 a quid mate.

3/ 'Course they're Filon mate, 8 a quid mate

4/ Asprin, they where identical to the white Benzedrine/Amphet Sulphate tabs, only 10 per time because of the danger of stomach bleeding, didn't want to kill anyone!

10 a quid mate

So, gear paid for, entrance and sundries to niter paid for, bought a pressing of "Alexander Patton" on Soul Sounds and still got five bob in my pocket!

Jobs a good un

Shelly

got to pull you up on that lad-although red and browns and green and browns were time released they were not spansules in the true sense of the word i.e green and clears were true spansules and were full of time released balls.

duraphet and duraphet m originaly appered in a dex/amphet cocktail based on levophetamine. later this was changed to an amphet/dexamphet cocktail called resin complex B. the m stood for methaqualone (mandrtax, qualudes etc). resin complex b had a grey hue to it and was very grainy, the time release mechanism were a very oddly shaped ingreidient that looked more like boiling sugar dropped into cold water`` no two were the same shape. green and bowns were not 20 mg but 12.5mg and 50 mg mandrax-red and browns were 20mg and 50mg mandrax. you foamed at the mouth due to the mandys kicking in first-if you werent carefull it was easy to go over on that heavy, heavy barbituate-buit the speed did bring you round in the end (i looked up and realised i was in the flying horse nottingham, looking up because id fallen over due to the mandy's in 15 red and browns, AFTER THAT IT WAS ALL PLAIN SAILING. before resin complex b riker and boots caps were full of a off white grainy powder and the time release mechanism was based on the fact that by mixing amphet and dexamphet tyhe dexamphet would count as a time release ingriediant on its own

no disclaimers- its too late for that- i was willing and able to smile on filon anytime

my memory is not as sharpe as it used to be and without input from, anywhere else this is what i can recolect-please tell me im wrong - but i had the head in those days to study what was a major part of the soul scene in as much depth as possible-

going to bed now to dream about methedrine (two tone greens) adenol (two tone pinks-=although you had to be careful you didnt get them mixed up with barbidex, also two tone pinks), dextrasol, pereludine, silfix, driminal or dryminal, even edrisol. £10 wrap for me then tomorrow - YAWN

[Guest enchantedrythm]

Tony,you mean Johnny Maddocks?.If so,went to school with him.Took me on my first trip to Wigan,with Poz,Rob Hallam,Curly,Tats,and me.

6 in a mini...

top bloke john maddox

[Guest enchantedrythm]

I remember a guy called "Larry Lightening" who used to stand in the doorway of the beachcomber cafe

adjacent to the casino asking every one to lend him 10p. He asked me to lend him 10 pence to make a

phone call to a friend, I said, "here's 20 pence, ring all of 'em"

Tony Warot (certified loanshark)

tone- love you chris fletch

[Guest enchantedrythm]

1. HI SOULSTERS, I HAVE PINNED THIS UP BEFORE, BUT IT FITS IN NEETLEY WITH THIS THREAD, AND AS MOST PEOPLE RATTLED AS THEY DANCED, I WAS LUCKY, I USED TO GET STUFF FROM THE SK&F FACTORY IN WELGAR,
   
2. 80 5mg DEXADRINE £ METHADRINE 2/6d A JACK 10 £1 FRENCH BLUES 80 £1 CAPS WERE A TANNER EACH, HOWEVER THERE ALWAYS WAS THE CHEMIST IF YOU WERE IN A HURRY?? DAVE KIL
   

welyn garden city-smith kline and french go together like.................................................................................loughborough* riker was a fav hang out of mine

[Mak]

I remember a guy called "Larry Lightening" who used to stand in the doorway of the beachcomber cafe

adjacent to the casino asking every one to lend him 10p. He asked me to lend him 10 pence to make a

phone call to a friend, I said, "here's 20 pence, ring all of 'em"

Tony Warot (certified loanshark)

A good friend of mine from way back (albeit a sheepshagger ) not to many crossed Larry . still seen at Shite Park watching his beloved Derby .

[Guest gordon russell]

A good friend of mine from way back (albeit a sheepshagger ) not to many crossed Larry . still seen at Shite Park watching his beloved Derby .

got his come up ense (is that right? ) at cleethorpes from a nasty piece of work from corby (mate of wilky's) called snotty cain (yep thats his name).......larry picked on one fella to many and paid the price

[Guest gordon russell]

A good friend of mine from way back (albeit a sheepshagger ) not to many crossed Larry . still seen at Shite Park watching his beloved Derby .

got his come up ense (is that right? ) at cleethorpes from a nasty piece of work from corby (mate of wilky's) called snotty cain (yep thats his name).......larry picked on one fella to many and paid the price

Talking about two-tone greens(few posts earlier) i was working on Cirencester Agricultural college many moons ago,ripping out rooms re-furbishing bathrooms etc,so what is the first thing you do in a strange bathroom? shit, pee ,w....ash? proper soulie ALWAYS looks in the cabinet(Don´t any of you deny it!!)

Anyway one cabinet had a small bottle labled methadrine was i made up there was seventeen caps in it all shiny green and green just like finding a Nolan Chance on Bunky in Australia really

Steve

note to enchanted rhythm............anyone who loves Tony Worot read too much and defiately did too much.......I think i married him once

hi steve.........got loadsa good tales wil recount em a bit later gotta go out just now...........how are you mate O.K

[Guest soul over easy]

HI ALL ..i DON'T THINK! THAT THE MAN UNITED BOUGHT THE SAME TYPE OF BOOT BOY I AM TALKING ABOUT, WITH THE GREATEST RESPECT, HOWEVER THEY EVENTUALLY DID TAKE THE NORTH BANK, NOT THE CHICKEN RUN THO AND AS YOU NO IT WAS NOT EASY, IT WAS THE LAST TIME IT HAPPENED AND ALONG WITH THE WEST HAM FAN WHO GOT KICKED TO DEATH BY THE NOTTS FOREST FANS AT THE END OF THAT SEASON THAT'LL THE CREWS OF EAST LONDON AND ESSEX STOPPED ANY INFIGHTING AND JOINED TOGETHER AS THE FIRM, IT WOULD NOT HAPPEN AGAIN AND AS SUCH WE CROPPED OUR HEADS SO THE OLD BILL JUST DID NOT HAVE A CLUE WHO WAS WHO! SO BECAUSE OF MAN UNITED ACTIONS THE SKINHEAD WAS BORN, I REMEMBER GOING TO OLD TRAFFORD IN 68/ 69 SEASON ALONG WITH THE OLD MEN AND OLD DEARS THERE WERE 5 OF US, ONE BLOKE TOOK THE STRETFORD END, I NEVER SAW HIM AGAIN , I LANDED UP IN ONE OF THOSE BET LYNCH TYPE GAFFS WITH THAT SQUEEZE BOX FOLK MUSIC,

THEN WENT TO THE WHEEL. T TERRIFIC! DAVE

what year ar you talking about when the west ham fan was killed by the forest fans? i use to go down the city ground with the lads and remember going to sheff wed away did the same thing other lads have mention on here ,got in wednesdays end before them and when they got on to the terraces they could not run us out, sqiurmishes breaking out through out the game.Think it was 74/75 season we won 3-0 neil martin scoring a hat trick if my memory serves me right? forest did kill a midlesborough fan up at boro and 3 of me mates went to prison for it,early 80,s ,scariest place i went to was portsmouth lol.

[Kevinkent]

what year ar you talking about when the west ham fan was killed by the forest fans? i use to go down the city ground with the lads and remember going to sheff wed away did the same thing other lads have mention on here ,got in wednesdays end before them and when they got on to the terraces they could not run us out, sqiurmishes breaking out through out the game.Think it was 74/75 season we won 3-0 neil martin scoring a hat trick if my memory serves me right? forest did kill a midlesborough fan up at boro and 3 of me mates went to prison for it,early 80,s ,scariest place i went to was portsmouth lol.

I shudder at the thought!

[Guest gordon russell]

Hello Steve Smith

here a a few stories from the scary days. Do you remember being stopped at hilton park by the D.S on either your coach or sean dykes........and we all sang the mint cracknel song lol......Another time remember me,cliff evans,paulus and bob finch having 3,000 script dex in a tesco bag and being chased around wolverhampton by D.S, starskey and hutch style. They never caught us we lost em down a country lane....dumped our gear by the village sign and wizzed down a lane with the car lights off (like a bloody film lol ).

anyone remember black robbo from wolves ...well scary, got on great with him though he used to be at wolves train station,always got me a platform ticket (never paid the fare ) or the infamous terry tompson.......he said to me one night at the cats when neither of us had enough money to get to Wigan "come on mate" "l.ll get us some cash ". we went into town and right by the french duck he grabbed an asian fella and rolled him for £7.00 l,ll never forget that. What about the night the crowd that john manship used to hang about with can only remember BUTCH (not mark dobson ) and POKE (he was tough as f**k ) having a pitched battle right outside the CATS with the DERBY lot fiak and co jesus that was mental little willie got stabbed in his leg and never knew until the morning lol. Remember Wilky and Snotty Cain from Corby battering larry l and his mate at CLEETHORPES when they tried to demand the cannister of 200 b/bombers they,d just got from a chemist.

What about the near riot at YATE with the locals twice....remember CHRIS & HARRY pulling up in their little van, full of hurly bats,cricket bats ect ect......big SAM from brum laying em out one after the other wey hey think MELVIN & ROY tucked a couple of the locals in a very bad way.

Talking about MELVIN & ROY remeber them coming into the services near YATE, missing the turn and crashing head on into the raised kerbing.......the engine popped straight out of the mini they were driving onto the verge lol......they got a lift to YATE. more later tezza

[KevH]

edit.

Edited August 21, 2011 by KevH

[MrsWoodsrules]

The only time I saw trouble at Wigan was if we got the earlier train in when all the town was still busy at 'chuckin out' time, when all the streets were still full of 'drinkers' & not with Casino goers mainly.

A few died from Warrington before during & after my time, Chlli (who I didn't know), Yorkie & Trev (who I did) spring to mind.

I know the Parr Hall Warrington was closed in the 80's because the toilets were used for 'cranking' & discarded needles were regular, which was a shame cos the music was great, Danny Moore Somebody New springs to mind if my memory serves, which it often doesn't.

[MrsWoodsrules]

The best t-shirt remember seeing was in Mr M's.

Just said........RIKER LIKER.

Used to make me piss every time, still does.

[Guest roggert]

two brothers and family back as far as the mojo in 1965 were running scams selling dud blueys and a few years later pressings to fund their empire ,wherever there is money to be made there are bastards who will rip you off be it drugs records /anything to make another quid witout working for it even so called mates will steal from your back pocket----at least those mates all got liver disease from the gear they bought from my cash!!what goes around comes around /hep c to you all !

[dthedrug]

Talking about two-tone greens(few posts earlier) i was working on Cirencester Agricultural college many moons ago,ripping out rooms re-furbishing bathrooms etc,so what is the first thing you do in a strange bathroom? shit, pee ,w....ash? proper soulie ALWAYS looks in the cabinet(Don´t any of you deny it!!)

Anyway one cabinet had a small bottle labled methadrine was i made up there was seventeen caps in it all shiny green and green just like finding a Nolan Chance on Bunky in Australia really

Steve

note to enchanted rhythm............anyone who loves Tony Worot read too much and defiantly did too much.......I think i married him once

Hi All Are you sure it was mathadine?? as your desciption sounds like methadone as the liquid you describe is for physeptone which is a synthetic opiate, that was made by the NAZIS Chemists as they where unable to get any Poppy's to make morphine / DOA-morphine, the name HEROIN is a brand name for dia-morphine,

methadone was used as a heroin substitute and it's gloppy state that is offered to addicts, is to prevent IV USE, as a drug it's a real booby prize as it has a habit of hanging around in the system for about 7 days recommended dose is 80ml to 120 ml and titration can be done in 3 days for maintenance, for Detox, I recommend if the motivation is right, to use SUBUTEX, And don't even use METHADONE,

More addicts are stuck on low doses 40ml daily is typical, and encourages the terrible drug agency speak of are you CLEAN or DIRTY??? drug users are not dirty if they use,

other preparation used are Dex Amphetamine Sulfate, this has to be prepared at the chemist, as manufacture does not make it.

Methadrine like Dia-Morphine was clear and come only in 1 amps for IV called JAX = Jacking up as a term for having a fix,

DAVE

[Guest]

D....Methadrin.....glass ampoules....only had it twice....VERY good gear.

Methadone......M8 of mine was on script for it, prob was I liked it and went onto smack, remember Colliis brown, chug a bottle then projectile vomit LOL, happy daze.

Alcohol and nicotine my major vices these days, not had a draw for 6 months due to ''random'' tests where I work.

Chiefy is now on board, on the Bletsoe thread.

[Chris L]

I remember a guy called "Larry Lightening" who used to stand in the doorway of the beachcomber cafe

adjacent to the casino asking every one to lend him 10p. He asked me to lend him 10 pence to make a

phone call to a friend, I said, "here's 20 pence, ring all of 'em" Tony Warot (certified loanshark)

[Guest POTTERIESPECK]

The best t-shirt remember seeing was in Mr M's.

Just said........RIKER LIKER.

Used to make me piss every time, still does.

I USED TO HAVE A BLACK TEE SHIRT WITH RIKER LIKER ON IN RED LETTERING AS A 16 YEAR OLD AT THE CASINO.

[Guest Chiefy]

Just read all 4 pages of this and have had a right old chuckle .Used to like the aggro 69-73 and went to allnighters after away matches. Luton was my team and in div2+3 as it was back in them days and also went with mates who supported London teams occasionally.I can honestly say I never had any hassle over football at any soul night though it used to get proper messy back then at the games by the time the dubes had kicked in and the sounds started it was all handshakes and freindly verballing about the afternoons events. I found it were,nt best to mix hooliganisam and soul nights as mixing it in the afternoon wasn,t the best frame of mind to kick of a nights block up especially if you were prone to paranoia.Interesting thread this though cause as pointed out most of the blockers tended to be the local villains cum nutters and it was pretty amazing to see all these headcases from different areas dancing and clapping together full of speed, what now would be termed as loved up. I definattly reckon if you,d stuck the same blokes in a room and got em pissed there,d have been a bloodbath. Of course it were,nt all peace and love and all the problems, trouble came from dodgy geezers wanting to mug others for pills or records. I remember a few well dodgy blokes from the Derby area helping themselfs to vinyl + pills in the cafe above the saints and sinners Brum with a cutthroat razor and a knive being brandished.We were sitting on a nearby table and knew them from Harborough Lantern where they used to get up to similar things. We were only about 17 or 18 (they looked like they were in there 30,s) and used to chat to em and they,d sort of have a laugh with us and even try and sell us there wares. For some reason they seemed to like me and the little crowd I was with and we defs. were,nt gonna argue with them.Seriously bad geezers. Just remembered one night at Harborough was a bit of commotion outside and one of em was holding a cutthroat at a popular black geezers (Delbert from Wellingborough) throat. For what seemed an eternity I really thought he was gonna cut him before he backed off and left him alone.Tell ya that Delbert was bricking it and he was regarded as a pretty handy geezer himself.

Apart from that it was pretty much peace and love and KEEP THE FAITH

[Guest Chiefy]

Just read this again which I posted late at night. Bit of a daft statement saying Delbert was bricking it. Top geezer who played the sounds later at Bletsoe and despite being a handy bloke I think most would agree that we,d all be bricking it with some nutter holding a cut throat tight to our throat.No disrepect meant mate. atb. H.

[Guest]

Just read this again which I posted late at night. Bit of a daft statement saying Delbert was bricking it. Top geezer who played the sounds later at Bletsoe and despite being a handy bloke I think most would agree that we,d all be bricking it with some nutter holding a cut throat tight to our throat.No disrepect meant mate. atb. H.

Chiefy

I always thought the shiv/cut throat and screw driver brigade came from Corby?.....remember the bloke they stabbed with a screw driver at that party after one of the 'Harborough niters?

Edited September 17, 2011 by DanDare

[Guest Chiefy]

No mate--these lot were from derby-notts area. Main pair, one of em was a big skinny geezer with long blonde hair and the one holding the blade at Delbert was a short balding bloke, wore shades. Me and Gareth used to chat with em at Harborough. Might even be the Mansfield blokes mentioned earlier if the time-lines right.

Just of to watch Luton now against Lincoln in the ****** conference.

Bought to mind the time when we had a team and you were there in the afternoon testing all them Dex which were double the normal size which you,d bought night before in 3 h/shoes. Reckon you took about 100 +mouth frothing before you were convinced they were duds :D

[Guest gordon russell]

Just read this again which I posted late at night. Bit of a daft statement saying Delbert was bricking it. Top geezer who played the sounds later at Bletsoe and despite being a handy bloke I think most would agree that we,d all be bricking it with some nutter holding a cut throat tight to our throat.No disrepect meant mate. atb. H.

knew Delbert Brown very well back then, most people in Wellingborough who knew him even the tough families avoided any kind of clash with Delbert.......only time l ever saw him lose a fight was with a fella called Daley Oakley who beat him quite convincingly........BUT HE WAS THE ONLY ONE LOL....didn,t stop Delbert being a top bloke and a good source of doobs lol

tezza

[Guest gordon russell]

Just read this again which I posted late at night. Bit of a daft statement saying Delbert was bricking it. Top geezer who played the sounds later at Bletsoe and despite being a handy bloke I think most would agree that we,d all be bricking it with some nutter holding a cut throat tight to our throat.No disrepect meant mate. atb. H.

knew Delbert Brown very well back then, most people in Wellingborough who knew him even the tough families avoided any kind of clash with Delbert.......only time l ever saw him lose a fight was with a fella called Daley Oakley who beat him quite convincingly........BUT HE WAS THE ONLY ONE LOL....didn,t stop Delbert being a top bloke and a good source of doobs lol

tezza

No mate--these lot were from derby-notts area. Main pair, one of em was a big skinny geezer with long blonde hair and the one holding the blade at Delbert was a short balding bloke, wore shades. Me and Gareth used to chat with em at Harborough. Might even be the Mansfield blokes mentioned earlier if the time-lines right.

Just of to watch Luton now against Lincoln in the ****** conference.

Bought to mind the time when we had a team and you were there in the afternoon testing all them Dex which were double the normal size which you,d bought night before in 3 h/shoes. Reckon you took about 100 +mouth frothing before you were convinced they were duds :D

No mate--these lot were from derby-notts area. Main pair, one of em was a big skinny geezer with long blonde hair and the one holding the blade at Delbert was a short balding bloke, wore shades. Me and Gareth used to chat with em at Harborough. Might even be the Mansfield blokes mentioned earlier if the time-lines right.

Just of to watch Luton now against Lincoln in the ****** conference.

Bought to mind the time when we had a team and you were there in the afternoon testing all them Dex which were double the normal size which you,d bought night before in 3 h/shoes. Reckon you took about 100 +mouth frothing before you were convinced they were duds :D

Think you may be talking about larry lightning and a fella called cog or coddy not quite sure which is right,but these seem to fit the bill

[shelly]

Sounds like it could have been Monty, big geezer long blond hair, as he was still alive and kicking then-literally, though the modus-operandi sounds like Fiak.

Remember stopping at Woolley Edge services one Sunday morning in '73 after a Central allnighter, the idiot manager came up to us, must have been about 50 of us there and told us to leave as we were trouble makers and he new of us from Hilton Park services,net result, said manager is pinned against a wall with a blade at his throat by .... whilst everyone helped themselves.

Shelly

Edited September 18, 2011 by shelly

[Gilly]

Sounds like it could have been Monty, big geezer long blond hair, as he was still alive and kicking then-literally, though the modus-operandi sounds like Fiak.

Remember stopping at Woolley Edge services one Sunday morning in '73 after a Central allnighter, the idiot manager came up to us, must have been about 50 of us there and told us to leave as we were trouble makers and he new of us from Hilton Park services,net result, said manager is pinned against a wall with a blade at his throat by .... whilst everyone helped themselves.

Shelly

Fiak he was a bit of a lad in his day,remember Den Mac telling me when he and Fi were leant against a pub wall on a saturday afternoon and along came 2/3 Man U fans,Fi said these are them and proceded to fill em in.Den just stood and shook his head in amazement.Fiaks son has done him proud by continuing the familys carpet business.Can say i always got on with Fi and i really did like him.Gilly

[KevH]

No mate--these lot were from derby-notts area. Main pair, one of em was a big skinny geezer with long blonde hair and the one holding the blade at Delbert was a short balding bloke, wore shades. Me and Gareth used to chat with em at Harborough. Might even be the Mansfield blokes mentioned earlier if the time-lines right.

Just of to watch Luton now against Lincoln in the ****** conference.

Bought to mind the time when we had a team and you were there in the afternoon testing all them Dex which were double the normal size which you,d bought night before in 3 h/shoes. Reckon you took about 100 +mouth frothing before you were convinced they were duds :D

The short balding one with shades...smart dressed,pock marked face? What was the year again?

Edited September 18, 2011 by KevH

[Guest Chiefy]

The short balding one with shades...smart dressed,pock marked face? What was the year again?

Harborough Lantern and saints + sinners were 71-72 ,can remember it by my D.C. release date(8 weeks 4days and a brek) ,about the only time of clarity I had back then.

[Guest proudlove]

Why are some of my old mates being described as villains..................

[shelly]

Why are some of my old mates being described as villains..................

I thought it was normal behaviour then, as you say, now everyone's called a villain!

[Irish Spinner]

I was too young to have ever gone to Wigan etc, my first niters were at Bradford in the 80's but I've heard countless stories of the bad boys that used to go to Wigan, mugging people, selling dodgy gear and I've met at least two people who were runners for the dealers etc but I was just wondering, was this common at other venues such as Cleethorpes, the Mecca and the other main clubs of the time??

Ste.

Revenge was sweet: I only remember a few little teams in the early 70s at The Cats and the Casino ripping people off. At the casino there was a little crew from Preston that turned most people over that had dealings with them. At the Cats there where a few lads who where lackies for a real bad fuka from Wolvo who turned my best mate Dave Giedd over Dave was always a bit flash in dress and with money and gear.Well a few weeks after he got ripped off we went back and mid way throught the nite we set them up a treat. Once we spotted them going into the toilets. Both of us went in after them, they clocked Dave from a few weeks before

I ask Dave for some gear and as soon as Daves hand went into his pocket they both pinned him to the wall as quick as a flash i stood back as if i was shocked,Dave pleaded with them that he only had a few Bombers they searched him a found the 4 caps .We made sure we had no cash well notes on us before we went in .They dropped two Bombers each and told both of us to fuk off laughing and sn*****ing .Well we where two young 17 year olds from Cambridge a place full of old hippies who just luv a smoke and a gud trip.And little did they know we spiked the bombers with two green micro dots EACH (LSD) then sat back and watched the fun begin. Fuk them thats wot we thought and still do to parasites who prayed on youngsters new to the scene.They where 12 hour trips in those days lmao.

Irish

[Guest Chiefy]

Englands first suicide bombers?

[spike1]

Nice one Irish " don't get mad get even"

Great to meet you at the wheel

The Other Sunday

Spike

[Guest Marky Tee]

Does anybody remember a black lad from Wolverhampton called Fenton (1975). He used to stop people getting on the coach to Wigan and ask for "two bob for me brother's reception". He must have had a lot of siblings or his one brother was a serial bigamist. If anybody refused he was not very pleasant lol. I've seen lads hiding under lorries from him cuz they wouldn't pay him.

It wasn't uncommon in Wolves to be stopped by large gangs of lads in the early/mid 70's and robbed of your money and coats. Slightly off thread but I remember going to watch Wolves at Birmingham in 1972 ish and loads of people were being robbed as they got on the buses in Wolves by a gang of lads both black and white.

Ah the good old days..............................

[Pete S]

Does anybody remember a black lad from Wolverhampton called Fenton (1975). He used to stop people getting on the coach to Wigan and ask for "two bob for me brother's reception". He must have had a lot of siblings or his one brother was a serial bigamist. If anybody refused he was not very pleasant lol. I've seen lads hiding under lorries from him cuz they wouldn't pay him.

Had the same problem with "Patto", remember him. Last saw him in the enclosure at Molineux, 1982 I should think, 3 or 4 Chelsea lads started on innocent bystanders and he was one of them, several people joined in and the Chelsea were carted off.

[Guest Marky Tee]

Had the same problem with "Patto", remember him. Last saw him in the enclosure at Molineux, 1982 I should think, 3 or 4 Chelsea lads started on innocent bystanders and he was one of them, several people joined in and the Chelsea were carted off.

Never knew him but knew of him. It was quite a problem at the time i used to keep a few bob in my pocket and hide the rest in my shoe til I knew it was safe.

Was Patto from Bushbury?

[Pete S]

Never knew him but knew of him. It was quite a problem at the time i used to keep a few bob in my pocket and hide the rest in my shoe til I knew it was safe.

Was Patto from Bushbury?

Yes he was. He relieved me of ten bob on our own coach!

[Guest Marky Tee]

Yes he was. He relieved me of ten bob on our own coach!

He used to knock about with a kid called Boot who I knew, so I was Patto proof, thats how I didn't really have much to do with him. Pete do u know a lad called Ant Spittle from Bushbury?

[Pete S]

He used to knock about with a kid called Boot who I knew, so I was Patto proof, thats how I didn't really have much to do with him. Pete do u know a lad called Ant Spittle from Bushbury?

Don't think so, but the problem is, I spent 18 years away from Wton and in that time I forgot most people, not seeing them week in and week out, now I meet people for the first time in years and of course I only remember them from the last time I saw them, in 83-84...no wonder I never recognise anyone.

[Guest Marky Tee]

Don't think so, but the problem is, I spent 18 years away from Wton and in that time I forgot most people, not seeing them week in and week out, now I meet people for the first time in years and of course I only remember them from the last time I saw them, in 83-84...no wonder I never recognise anyone.

Should probably make clear that Ant Spittle is in no way a villain, soul or otherwise, and as he is an international rifle marksman I am more than happy to make this clear....gulps

[Guest MrC]

Does anybody remember a black lad from Wolverhampton called Fenton (1975). He used to stop people getting on the coach to Wigan and ask for "two bob for me brother's reception". He must have had a lot of siblings or his one brother was a serial bigamist. If anybody refused he was not very pleasant lol. I've seen lads hiding under lorries from him cuz they wouldn't pay him.

It wasn't uncommon in Wolves to be stopped by large gangs of lads in the early/mid 70's and robbed of your money and coats. Slightly off thread but I remember going to watch Wolves at Birmingham in 1972 ish and loads of people were being robbed as they got on the buses in Wolves by a gang of lads both black and white.

Ah the good old days..............................

It was Venton I think, he's pretty ill now. used to live over a chinese takeaway a few years ago.

Had the same problem with "Patto", remember him. Last saw him in the enclosure at Molineux, 1982 I should think, 3 or 4 Chelsea lads started on innocent bystanders and he was one of them, several people joined in and the Chelsea were carted off.

It was the younger Patto Pete, there's 5 of them all together I think, one of them (Herman) used to do the door for Helen & Peps northern nights down Tettenhall road in the 90s.

It was a good job you'd just shoved the rest of your money down your sock that night on the coach though, eh?

[Guest Marky Tee]

It was Venton I think, he's pretty ill now. used to live over a chinese takeaway a few years ago.

Must be my 13 year old's alzheimers kicking in

It was the younger Patto Pete, there's 5 of them all together I think, one of them (Herman) used to do the door for Helen & Peps northern nights down Tettenhall road in the 90s.

It was a good job you'd just shoved the rest of your money down your sock that night on the coach though, eh?

[Guest]

What a pleasure reading this thread... from east side skin talk to long forgotten friends - Coddy, Larry, Frankie (Booper).... I'll come back to explain the newspaper clipping (not sure if it'll work). Okay, it worked but I'm too embarrassed to tell the story behind the 'headline' - one of those tales that sounds better in memory than it looks in print... Steve (Proudlove) I think I told you this one... Alan Day left us hanging on. Chris's comment to the court "we were desperate" doesn't do justice... though the only thought in my mind when I put my foot down was how to get rid of the blueys out of AD's case

Edited March 16, 2012 by Nickg

[Citizen P]

Why are some of my old mates being described as villains..................

Coz, "Characters" doesn't quite do 'em justice mate...

Tony

[Petedillon]

Andy Wilson!! mentioned in the newspaper clip. is he still around ?.

I remember him coming out of jail and going home to his mum & dads pub...They'd sold it and gone to Australia!!

[Citizen P]

Andy Wilson!! mentioned in the newspaper clip. is he still around ?.

I remember him coming out of jail and going home to his mum & dads pub...They'd sold it and gone to Australia!!

Now known as Professor Andrew Wilson no less-there has been the odd mention of his book on here.

Tony

[Soulfulhound]

Andy Wilson!! mentioned in the newspaper clip. is he still around ?.

I remember him coming out of jail and going home to his mum & dads pub...They'd sold it and gone to Australia!!

Just looking at the name, I think it may well be Andy himself who posted the newspaper report