Hi All,

A friend of mine does a local radio show (plays lots of soul/reggae stuff)

and he's doing a 1977 themed show.He's asked me to find out any sounds that were relative to this year...e.g....top sounds played at niters ,or were recorded that year..or even if any soul artists died that year.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Ed

If you want more mainstream stuff hard to ignore Stevie Wonder's impact on 1977 both in U.K. & U.S.

In the U.K. 5th most succesful chart artist (solo male) - singles AND albums.

Mainly due to "Songs in the Key of Life" - released late '76 but big impact on charts through 77.

https://en.wikipedia....the_Key_of_Life

MB

Edited May 25, 201212 yr by MBarrett

Tim Browns book would be a good guide for scene related spins from 1977, well Wigan ones.

US SOUL CHART No.1's that year included ....

O'Jays -- Darlin Darlin Baby

William Bell -- Tryin To Love Two

Marvin Gaye -- Got To Give It Up

Tavares -- Whodunit

Emotions -- Best Of My Love

Floaters -- Float On

LTD -- Back In Love Again

E, W & F -- Serpentine Fire

From Tim's book,

1977 Wigan Spins include

Inspirations - No one else can take you place

7th Wonder - Captain of my ship

Eddie Holman - This will be a night to remember

Betty Boo - Say it isn't so

Marie Knight - That's no way to treat a girl

Tony Middleton - Paris Blues

Billy Arnell - Tough Girl

Flaming Emeralds - Have some everybody

Bobby Goldsboro - Too many people

Ellusions - You didn't have to leave

Billy Watkins - The ice-man

Taj Mahal - A lot of love

Judy Street - What

Chalky most of my collection is made up of records big in 77, right off the top of my head big tunes included

lesley uggams - don't you even care

inspirations - breakthru

yum yums

eddie rgan

paula durante - if he were mine

joey heatherton

paris blues

yvonne daniels

bernie williams

mvp's

the camp

lou ragland travel alone

garnet mimms

jimmy cliff waterfall

august & deneen

april stevens

lillie bryant

toni basil

al de lory

john e paul

the jewels

adams apples

paula parfitt

this list would go on forever, obviously many of these got plays before 77 but all were massive in that year

What a massively diverse selection of sounds there were back in that year, very ecclectic listing.

I think Will Collins Anything I can do Bareback was released in 1977. I THINK!

From Tim's book,

1977 Wigan Spins include

Billy Arnell - Tough Girl

Thank you 1977 for this truely incredible discovery.

Thank you 1977 for this truely incredible discovery.

Along with the Ellusions, Tony middleton & Inspirations 77 was a very nice year!

Along with the Ellusions, Tony middleton & Inspirations 77 was a very nice year!

Inspirations was a Mecca/Ritz biggie from 76.

Plus the soul police would have had a field day back than, cause Richard did not get a real one untill 79 off Barry Wadd,

One of the top tunes of 1977 or indeed any other year !!!!

One of the top tunes of 1977 or indeed any other year !!!!

Never heard of it.

US SOUL CHART No.1's that year included ....

O'Jays -- Darlin Darlin Baby

William Bell -- Tryin To Love Two

Marvin Gaye -- Got To Give It Up

Tavares -- Whodunit

Emotions -- Best Of My Love

Floaters -- Float On

LTD -- Back In Love Again

E, W & F -- Serpentine Fire

The year and some of the tunes where soul music really started for me, bloody great.

Roger

Never heard of it.

Big tune for Colin Curtis at Blackpool Mecca in his "last hour" sets.

Big tune for Colin Curtis at Blackpool Mecca in his "last hour" sets.

Probably why I've never heard of it then

A few of these may have been played before 77 but it was as i recall the first time i heard them

Hundred pounds of pain Lenny Welch

Today's people SOS all we need is time for love

Jerry fuller Double Life

The French Fries Dane A'La Music

Del Larks Job Opening

Black nasty cut your motor off

Dooley Silverspoon Game Players

East Coast Connection Summer in the Park

Lloyd Michels and Misturer The Flasher

PS

Does anyone know why black nasty came out highlighted ?

Edited May 30, 201212 yr by allnightandy

A few of these may have been played before 77 but it was as i recall the first time i heard them

Hundred pounds of pain Lenny Welch

Today's people SOS all we need is time for love

Jerry fuller Double Life

The French Fries Dane A'La Music

Del Larks Job Opening

Black nasty cut your motor off

Dooley Silverspoon Game Players

East Coast Connection Summer in the Park

Lloyd Michels and Misturer The Flasher

PS

Does anyone know why black nasty came out highlighted ?

Andy all of those were from 1976 not 1977 (Dooley Silverspoon 75 I think) and I don't think any bar Del Larks were played in 1997, not in the big room anyway. Obviously that doesn't stop you from hearing them for the first time in 77, I realise that

Edited May 30, 201212 yr by Pete S

Andy all of those were from 1976 not 1977 (Dooley Silverspoon 75 I think) and I don't think any bar Del Larks were played in 1997, not in the big room anyway. Obviously that doesn't stop you from hearing them for the first time in 77, I realise that

I was there from 75 Pete , some of them were a bit naff and contributed to me not being there after 77

Cheers for the info all

Best

Ed

On 28/05/2012 at 12:54, Steve Foran said:

I think Will Collins Anything I can do Bareback was released in 1977. I THINK!

Now that was a a departure from lorraine silver,  and april stevens

Blanche Carter, Little Joe Cooke, Rain, and the real biggie Black Soul Music Black Soul..

Ed

19 hours ago, Tomangoes said:

Blanche Carter, Little Joe Cooke, Rain, and the real biggie Black Soul Music Black Soul..

Ed

Don't remember that ! New to me .

Obviously only joining the nighters scene from Cleethorpes Winter Gardens meant I probably missed 85% or more of being there when the big sounds were first played.

Nevertheless....Black Soul crammed the floor to a frenzy....for a few weeks.

Only other track I saw that really impacted the floor was James Coits Black Power a year or so later.

Both are probably dismissed today as youthful exuberance!

Ed

 

21 hours ago, Tomangoes said:

Blanche Carter, Little Joe Cooke, Rain, and the real biggie Black Soul Music Black Soul..

Ed

I'm sorry, but I did not like that Black Soul record back in the day.That was the couple of times I heard it in Wigan, and I still don't care for it now! But each to his own, everyone has a different taste!

Edited March 27, 20214 yr by Halogen

It’s all a blurr looking back 44 years, but the sounds were pretty good with 60’s newies and 70’s crossover popping up all over the place. Has anyone got scans of Blues and Soul adverts to remind us?

3 hours ago, Halogen said:

I'm sorry, but I did not like that Black Soul record back in the day.That was the couple of times I heard it in Wigan, and I still don't care for it now! But each to his own, everyone has a different taste!

Absolutely...

The frenzy to dance to this at CWG made it special for a few weeks, and then it over. 

The reality is, that if it was a genuine top sound it would have been revived many times over.

It hasn't, but nostalgically it will remain a part of our scene like many others.

Ed

AH or Arrrgh Late 1976/1977... which ever way you look at it was a BIG change year for the scene, as I remember.

Went to a few events and during some sets myself and some of the "older" Torch/Catacombes crowd just sat and watched in err WTF mode as the likes of Colin Curtis, Ian Levine etc dedicated half their set to what was then regarded as the "New Sounds" of northern soul. Plays included stuff like...Open Sessame, So is the Sun, and loads of other Funk Based stuff that was I think, mainly from the New York scene via Blackpool Mecca.

PS. That`s also when as I recall the dance style changed to the kinda stomp shuffle on the spot style that suited the funky stuff better.

14 hours ago, Tomangoes said:

Obviously only joining the nighters scene from Cleethorpes Winter Gardens meant I probably missed 85% or more of being there when the big sounds were first played.

Nevertheless....Black Soul crammed the floor to a frenzy....for a few weeks.

Only other track I saw that really impacted the floor was James Coits Black Power a year or so later.

Both are probably dismissed today as youthful exuberance!

Ed

 

I was doing St Ives all through 77until it shut in the October & the sounds mainly crossed over between St Ives & Cleethorpes. Black Soul must have passed us by. Can imagine it going down a storm in those days.

Snippet from Black Echoes a year earlier!  Will try and find some from 77.

Some of these are very well known now, but back in 76 they were upfront records!

Edited April 22, 20214 yr by Halogen

What's Miracle Love ? Assume it was a cover up? .....Dont remember hearing it 

Edited April 22, 20214 yr by Merve

11 hours ago, Merve said:

What's Miracle Love ? Assume it was a cover up? .....Dont remember hearing it 

I don't know. Must be a cover up? Also don't recognise the "Love Fantasy" by The Checkerboard Squares? Another cover up? Maybe Mr Barnfather could clue us up😉😀

 

 

43 minutes ago, Halogen said:

I don't know. Must be a cover up? Also don't recognise the "Love Fantasy" by The Checkerboard Squares? Another cover up? Maybe Mr Barnfather could clue us up😉😀

 

 

Love Fantasy was the cover up name for Bird Walking- The Emanons......One of the few occasions where the cover up name was better than the actual 😀

Edited April 23, 20214 yr by Merve
spelling !!!!

36 minutes ago, Merve said:

Love Fantasy was the cover up name for Bird Walking- The Emanons......One of the few occasions where the cover up name was better than the actual 😀

I have known "Birdwalking" since 1976 Wigan days, but never knew it covered up!    Everyday's a school day!! 😀

38 minutes ago, Halogen said:

I have known "Birdwalking" since 1976 Wigan days, but never knew it covered up!    Everyday's a school day!! 😀

Yeah covered up by Sam at St Ives/Cleethorpes...Dont think it hit Wigan until after it was uncovered but could be wrong 

I still cant get out of the habit of calling Joey Dee - How can I forget, 'Struttin' Time' either ... That Miracle Love is really bugging me🤪

2 hours ago, Merve said:

Yeah covered up by Sam at St Ives/Cleethorpes...Dont think it hit Wigan until after it was uncovered but could be wrong 

I still cant get out of the habit of calling Joey Dee - How can I forget, 'Struttin' Time' either ... That Miracle Love is really bugging me🤪

Please let me know if you find out what "Miracle Love" really is👍

Joey Dee instrumental, which is the side I remember being big, is the tune that goes through my head all the next day after an allnighter, even if it wasn't played!

Edited April 23, 20214 yr by Halogen

I always thought it was strutt in time....

Massive at cleggy and love fantasy.

How crazy was it to find a vocal all them years later!

Ed

54 minutes ago, Tomangoes said:

I always thought it was strutt in time....

Massive at cleggy and love fantasy.

How crazy was it to find a vocal all them years later!

Ed

I always thought Strut in Time too.....That list gave me self doubt so I copied it how it was written. So we agree Strut in Time it was 🤩🍻

 

2 hours ago, Halogen said:

Please let me know if you find out what "Miracle Love" really is👍

Joey Dee instrumental, which is the side I remember being big, is the tune that goes through my head all the next day after an allnighter, even if it wasn't played!

Perhaps someone on here will know about Miracle Love.......Jackson Sisters perhaps ? Wasn't that getting plays around that time or have I gone off on a tangent again ?

 

19 hours ago, Halogen said:

Please let me know if you find out what "Miracle Love" really is👍

Joey Dee instrumental, which is the side I remember being big, is the tune that goes through my head all the next day after an allnighter, even if it wasn't played!

Joey Dee instrumental, which is the side I remember being big, is the tune that goes through my head all the next day after an allnighter, even if it wasn't played!
 

Masive back in the day St Ives / Casino - got another big re play around 1982 just after the Casino shut 👍🏻

17 hours ago, Merve said:

Perhaps someone on here will know about Miracle Love.......Jackson Sisters perhaps ? Wasn't that getting plays around that time or have I gone off on a tangent again ?

 

I cant remember this being played, but somebody must know.. 

Ed

1 hour ago, Tomangoes said:

I cant remember this being played, but somebody must know.. 

Ed

Probably me being off target mate - It was one of the ones with miracle in the title that could pass off (at a push) as The Sweet Three 

‘Miracle Love’ was actually Ruth Christie, ‘Mystery of a Miracle’ on Tide. 

18 minutes ago, Tim Finch said:

‘Miracle Love’ was actually Ruth Christie, ‘Mystery of a Miracle’ on Tide. 

Thanks for putting me out of my misery mate 🍻

New to me. Was it a biggie all over?

It wasn't until Sept 76 that I started going to cwg nighters, so may have missed this in the plethora of new sounds being played.

Ed

53 minutes ago, Tomangoes said:

New to me. Was it a biggie all over?

It wasn't until Sept 76 that I started going to cwg nighters, so may have missed this in the plethora of new sounds being played.

Ed

I don't remember it either. Not a bad tune to be fair, strange how some pass right over your head. I don't think it could have been played for long or we'd have all known it.

Sam was the only DJ I heard play the Ruth Christie. He did play it for a while but it was never going to be a monster sound without the Casino getting behind it. I liked it and still do but had completely forgotten it ‘til l saw the list. 

1 hour ago, Tim Finch said:

Sam was the only DJ I heard play the Ruth Christie. He did play it for a while but it was never going to be a monster sound without the Casino getting behind it. I liked it and still do but had completely forgotten it ‘til l saw the list. 

Plenty of others on that list that did go big before The Casino got behind them though - The first three mainly wouldnt you say ? 

 

10 hours ago, Zoomsoulblue said:

Joey Dee instrumental, which is the side I remember being big, is the tune that goes through my head all the next day after an allnighter, even if it wasn't played!
 

Masive back in the day St Ives / Casino - got another big re play around 1982 just after the Casino shut 👍🏻

On Caniel label if I remember correctly 

Ste

Another big one from Wigan 

 

5 minutes ago, Winsford Soul said:

On Caniel label if I remember correctly 

Ste

Another big one from Wigan 

 

Another of Sam's 1sts wasnt it ?...Or am I mistaken ? (Gerri I mean)

Edited April 24, 20214 yr by Merve
Clarification

16 minutes ago, Merve said:

Another of Sam's 1sts wasnt it ?...Or am I mistaken ? (Gerri I mean)

Cant remember mate. Too long ago