LOOK,....apologies to all if its already been done, but its a bank holiday and i suppose a good many of us are bored, not gone anywhere, hence we're on soul source chewing the cud over "gently" last night, so here's the rub.....id like to see the dj's, collectors and all round know-it-alls get their comprehensive heads together and come up with a definitive format.

shall we use a yardstick of rareity OVER value,as, in this day and age, there are records that simply dont have a reliable valuation as no one knows how many copies really exist. im pretty sure it would also make a very good book, sitting snuggly on the shelf next to the already acclaimed "most popular" gospel.

suppose for starters MELLO SOULS is up there.....just another 499 to go then....any takers?

WELL IT BEATS LISTENING TO GOLD'S TOP 1000 POP RECORDS OF ALL-TIME DOSNT IT?

WELL IT BEATS LISTENING TO GOLD'S TOP 1000 POP RECORDS OF ALL-TIME DOSNT IT?

Now that sounds like a good show to me!

Not in any sort of order then?

499. Walter & the Admerations - Man Oh Man (What Have I Done)

Not to sure what your asking for, is it, the rarest 500 northern 45's, or the most valuable 500 45's, or the best 500 45's, or the most played 500 45's or most popular 500 45's???

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Not to sure what your asking for, is it, the rarest 500 northern 45's, or the most valuable 500 45's, or the best 500 45's, or the most played 500 45's or most popular 500 45's???

It sounds like the "most expensive" records. In my very simple and humble mind that'll be a top 500 hundred awash with shite.

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It sounds like the "most expensive" records. In my very simple and humble mind that'll be a top 500 hundred awash with shite.

I hear ya loud and clear and agree with you 100% on that.

daz.

It sounds like the "most expensive" records. In my very simple and humble mind that'll be a top 500 hundred awash with shite.

Mello Souls Shite!?. get a grip man!

I hear ya loud and clear and agree with you 100% on that.

daz.

Inspirations-No one else can take your place!!??,

Mello Souls Shite!?. get a grip man!

You obviously didn't read my post too carefully.

You obviously didn't read my post too carefully.

Mello Souls is 'very most' expensive, and NOT shite

Romulus - dont quote and take it completely out of context and then log off ffs!!

mello souls - inspirations - combinations - walter + Admirations - the profs - ravins - etc..etc... are ALL FANTASTIC northern tunes that happen to be as rare as hens teeth likewise there ARE plenty of shite proper rare tunes that are just that...rare and nothing else,

rare does not mean quality and thats a fact.

Daz.

Look it's a bank holiday knockabout topic simply wanting suggestions for the top 500 rarest records, not if they are sh*ite or whatever.

Just for once can we have a discussion with out descending into the usual pointless arguments.

Mello Souls is 'very most' expensive, and NOT shite

There's no point in contributing if you can't or won't read posts properly. Now, who has said that Mello Souls is shite?

Oh, and please don't use upper case letters - it doesn't make what you say right and it is quite tedious.

There's no point in contributing if you can't or won't read posts properly. Now, who has said that Mello Souls is shite?

Oh, and please don't use upper case letters - it doesn't make what you say right and it is quite tedious.

in your humble opinion, the top 500 will be 'AWASH'( upper case) with shite, name me just 10(that you think may make the top 500) that are shite

in your humble opinion, the top 500 will be 'AWASH'( upper case) with shite, name me just 10(that you think may make the top 500) that are shite

There were no upper case letters in my post - you're making it up.

I won't bother posting on this thread again.

:sleep3:

After just a few hours sleep since Friday I am too tired to keep getting involved in personal petty spats, either contribute the titles of Rare Records as that's what the topic is about or take it top PM's. Either way give it a rest.

After just a few hours sleep since Friday I am too tired to keep getting involved in personal petty spats, either contribute the titles of Rare Records as that's what the topic is about or take it top PM's. Either way give it a rest.

Sorry Chalky.

Like I said I'll not post on this thread again.

Just for once can we have a discussion with out descending into the usual pointless arguments.

i bet you believe in Father Christmas as well young Karl?

Look it's a bank holiday knockabout topic simply wanting suggestions for the top 500 rarest records, not if they are sh*ite or whatever.

Just for once can we have a discussion with out descending into the usual pointless arguments.

Nice one Chalky

bloody hell,the poor fella was just starting a topic of interest,dont think it warrents ripping him to ribbons,surely just type a couple of tunes in the mix,or bugga off!

The rarest records I've had and sold on were Ray Agee - I'm Losing Again and Mr Lucky - I Was Born To Love You.

I rate Ray Agee in the top 500 ever. I rate Mr Lucky in the bottom 500 ever.

pete there is a mr lucky on ebay.com now on buy it now for $1600,check it out mate,see what you think,looks a bit dodgy to me.

Look it's a bank holiday knockabout topic simply wanting suggestions for the top 500 rarest records, not if they are sh*ite or whatever.

Just for once can we have a discussion with out descending into the usual pointless arguments.

you tell them CHalky :thumbup:

no particular order or preference, forget valuation because EVERYONE'S interpretation of that is different ( same as dna ) and...i like chalky...the man is straight talking...and no differentiating over wether they are the dogs or the bogs ....just thought, as it appears it hasnt been done before, we could colloborate in putting together a 500, opposite to the greatest hits or popular anthems. inevitably, some of those well known rareities will figure in this anyway, because they are, quite naturally or have only ever been found in minute quantities, yet made it to many ears, whilst in the last couple of decades lets say others have been the privalaged posession of very few djs or collectors so they've not been heard by the masses.

dazdakin- AGENTSMITH stated in the original post to use, 'Rareity over Value' as a yard stick.

You agreed 100% with another member that if its based on value then its bound to be awash with shite!...

Your quote that rare doesnt mean quality is correct!

i'll chuck a few in then and be prepared to be shot at: just my suggestions, i know they're quite rare, couldnt possibly guess valuations but thats not what its about........

carpets - i just cant win

esther grant - lets get the most out of life

gerri shivers - lets try it again

mamie galore - no right to cry

marilyn barbarin - just a teenager

dreamettes - thats not love

esther harris - scarlet moon

betty wilson - im yours

katie briggs - last time around

tina roberts - one way or the other

new wanderers - aint gonna do you no harm

combinations - i chose you

some of these up there?, am i wide of the mark?....you tell me, you're the experts

Edited August 27, 201212 yr by AGENTSMITH

i reckon everyone on soulsource CAN put together a 500 that consists of quality rare tunage, regardless of value, and a concensus of opinion that agrees with the selections ....but of course i did say top 500 rareities and obviously with that being the case, marmite records are going to appear amongst them, strictly speaking.

Edited August 27, 201212 yr by AGENTSMITH

For me Kell Osbourne - Law Against A Heartbreaker should be knocking around the top 10 mark.

for a 70's record, Tommy Tate-If you got to love somebody (KoKo)

sandy golden - you are my everything

eddie billups - ask my heart

emory & dynamics - lets take a look at our lives

dennis edwards - johnny on the spot

william powell - heartaches, souveniers

nurons - all of my life

Heres a few I'd have in that 500 list, just because I love em.

Hyperions Why Do You Wanna Treat Me This Way. Chattahoochee

Jimmy Gresham This Feeling I Have. Terri De

Probably must include Del Larks, Magnetics, Al Williams too.

Aid.

Heres a few I'd have in that 500 list, just because I love em.

Hyperions Why Do You Wanna Treat Me This Way. Chattahoochee

Jimmy Gresham This Feeling I Have. Terri De

Probably must include Del Larks, Magnetics, Al Williams too.

Aid.

right on sis,

see,...well known, but still rare.

Salvadors - Stick by me baby - Wise world , to me one of the bestestest (just made that up !) IMHO

Swifty

four dynamics-things a lady aint suppose to do

prophets-one gold piece

magnetics-lady in green

jimmy & sundials-where did i lose you

cods-shes fire

Larry Clinton, don gardner

Junior McCants--Try me for your new love--king ( DJ )

Mega rare and great tune

How this has descended into the usual!!!

Anyway, who is collating and ranking this lot of suggestions (not me) here are my off the top of my head thoughts ...

EDDIE PARKER - I'M GONE

RITA & TIARAS - GONE WITH THE WIND (IS MY LOVE) (DORE)

BUDDY SMITH - WHEN YOU LOSE THE ONE YOU LOVE (BRUTE)

WILLIE TEE - WALKING UP A ONE WAY STREET (THE WRONG WAY) (NOLA/ATLANTIC)

J.J. BARNES - PLEASE LET ME IN (RIC-TIC)

WILLIE KENDRICK - CHANGE YOUR WAYS (RCA VICTOR)

SALVADORS - STICK BY ME BABY (WISE WORLD)

C.O.D.s - SHE'S FIRE (KELLMAC)

FRANK BEVERLEY & BUTLERS - IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANTED (SASSY/GAMBLE)

Cheers

Richard

eddie billups - ask my heart

oh yes

The Emeralds - Catch Me I'm Falling

The rarest records I've had and sold on were Ray Agee - I'm Losing Again and Mr Lucky - I Was Born To Love You.

I rate Ray Agee in the top 500 ever. I rate Mr Lucky in the bottom 500 ever.

LOOK,....apologies to all if its already been done, but its a bank holiday and i suppose a good many of us are bored, not gone anywhere, hence we're on soul source chewing the cud over "gently" last night, so here's the rub.....id like to see the dj's, collectors and all round know-it-alls get their comprehensive heads together and come up with a definitive format.

shall we use a yardstick of rareity OVER value,as, in this day and age, there are records that simply dont have a reliable valuation as no one knows how many copies really exist. im pretty sure it would also make a very good book, sitting snuggly on the shelf next to the already acclaimed "most popular" gospel.

It would make a good reference book reflecting the times thats for sure! If done regular, say bi-annually, you'd be able to see variations.

I'm not sure the yardstick of 'rarity over value' set us off on the right track (s'cuse the pun), though, because I don't know what is rare (without a comparison to its value) personnally think value could be a yardstick of rarity.

As an alternative, we could think about shifting the yardstick slightly to be our "favorite Northern Soul Tracks", regardless of how rare we think they are. The only way this could work is if (i) we decide and agree a preferred criteria, (i.e. all ss members post a top 20 fave NS within say 6 months?) and (ii) we get someone to vigilate and compile the results. I'm thinking of the someone with experience to lead & collate with the results i.e. soul source mods - but i wouldnt expect them to take it on, as its no small project, this! If someone did take it on (i.e ss mods or key members), then its possible we can actually achieve a top NS 500 as voted for by ss members.

Anyone interested?

Otherwise we might spend the next few months constructively critising rare NS lists - which makes interesting reading!! But we won't really get a top 500 rare NS list sorted. So what way are we going to go?

John Manship's already done a book on this subject where he illustrated every Northern rarity over £500 or something like that, came out 5 years ago, it's the only chance I'm ever going to get of seeing most of these records.

WILLIE TEE - WALKING UP A ONE WAY STREET (THE WRONG WAY) (NOLA/ATLANTIC)

Never heard of this, what is it?

pete there is a mr lucky on ebay.com now on buy it now for $1600,check it out mate,see what you think,looks a bit dodgy to me.

poor re-issue

carpets - i just cant win

mamie galore - no right to cry

betty wilson - im yours

tina roberts - one way or the other

wouldnt include these from my point of view

eddie billups - ask my heart

emory & dynamics - lets take a look at our lives

nurons - all of my life

wouldnt include these too from my point of view. rare and great but not the rarest of the rare..

ROYAL (TEXAS SLIM) BELL SWEET LITTLE GIRL DAL-SEGNO. Fantastic record and has to be rare.

wouldnt include these too from my point of view. rare and great but not the rarest of the rare..

actually on a second thought may be indeed I would...seeing it will be hard to find 497 other records that are rarer LOL

j d. bryant on shrine

prophets, gold piece on shrine

little john just wait & see

the classics one dance

george lemons on gold soul

any of the magnetics (sable,Bonnie ra-sal)

leon peterson on skylark

vickie labat on shagg

gayletts on blackjack

eddie whitehead also on blackjack

well theres 10ish , only 490 to go lol

Edited August 28, 201212 yr by tosspot