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Loose conversational topic, I don't want an argument about what is and isn't 'soul' - just tracks that wouldn't fit the norm for a 'soul track' per se.

The Anderson Brothers - I Can See Him Loving You

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    I'm sure JoAnn Garrett would be surprised to learn that she's a 'non-soul' artist. Her voice may be a bit sweet for some but she was among the finest gospel sopranos of her age. 45s like "One Woman" o

  • Cunnie
    Cunnie

    End of the day the Northern scene just cherry picks it's music from other music genre's. The majority of it is dance-able 60's Soul but occasionally other stuff slips through the net if it sounds righ

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    No I think they're black - there's a great Soul ballad on the flip of manifesto. I take the rock point but I would call it street funk with a soulful black vocal Cheers &#1

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Beverly Ann - You've got you're mind on other things. C&W meets NS. Still love the track though!

I walked away

When we get there

My hearts symphony

I'll hold you

Where can we go

Anything by bobby Goldsboro.

I thought of those in seconds,there must be hundreds . I see a long debate

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Thought it'd be nice to see what we're left with. :wink:

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Jo Ann Garrett - Whole New Plan

Joey Heatheron - When You Call Me Baby

jay and the americans, got hung up along the way. and livin above your head. love them both but more garage dancsr than soul

Always loved 'Lips to your Heart - The Nightwatch' (covered as The Ellingtons IIRC). Massive at Station Rd but now considered just another Crap white pop record for the Wigan dance crowd....... apparently!.

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Val Mckenna - Love Feeling, loved it years ago but listened to it recently and thought pop record that fitted in with the 'Wigan Sound'

I'm sure JoAnn Garrett would be surprised to learn that she's a 'non-soul' artist. Her voice may be a bit sweet for some but she was among the finest gospel sopranos of her age. 45s like "One Woman" on Duo are certainly soul to treasure. "Whole New Plan" is a soul record in every concrete sense of the term.

I know it doesn't necessarily follow that each record by a black artist is a soul record, but it happens to be true in that case.

There should also be a distinction with records by white artists when the intention was to make record for a 'soul' audience. There is often a gulf in meaning between a pop record with the right beat on one hand and blue eyed soul on the other.

Bobby Paris' Capitol 45 was a genuine attempt at blue eyed soul, as was Frankie & Johnnie, and whether you love or loathe either record you'd have to say they both did what they set out to do.

Keep on keepin on by NF Porter is almost a rock track with that moody guitar riff and psychedelic sound affects , still love it tho

Val Mckenna - Love Feeling, loved it years ago but listened to it recently and thought pop record that fitted in with the 'Wigan Sound'

awful :huh:

Love em to bits as I consider them to be great to dance to, but far removed from soul methinks

Case of Tyme - Manifesto

Shakers - One Wonderful Moment

Regards

How about the Cate Bros - Where Can We Go. Was even covered up as the Anderson Bros as mentioned in the original post.

Was once told that they were (hate this term) Blue Eyed Soul boys but the title of their biggest selling album kinda gave it away - Crazy Cajun.

The Pallbearers, Music with Soul, They should have been done under the trades description's. :D

EastCoast Connection - Summer in the park - Brilliant, but not exactly Soul.

EastCoast Connection - Summer in the park - Brilliant, but not exactly Soul.

That's right, it's pure country and western...

:g:

That's right, it's pure country and western...

:g:

How can you tell there's BOTH types of music among that raucous 100mph jumble of percussion?!

Love it but always thought Rose Batiste - Hit and Run was "a bit C&W". :yes::D

Who's that by then?

You asked for it!

Love the comment below the video

"This is the kind of sh*t you listen to when you are hacking up your family."

April Stevens - Wanting You

Village Sounds - These Windows

Barry St John - Everything I Touch Turns To Tears

All good records,but i would hardly call them soul.

Stu

Theme from Coloured Man - Teddy Vann Orch

Theme From the fantastic plastic machine - harold betts

Theme from Police Story - pat williams

Probably anything with 'theme' in the title...

stop girl - 7 dwarfs

A good none soul song (well to me its more rock than soul) Mr Floods Party - Compared to What

The terrible, A Touch of Velvet, A Sting of Bass

Pop novelty latin records Never Learnt To Dance Harvey Averne,Sugar-Isonics,Use It Before You Lose It,Hey Sister etc etc.

Theme from Coloured Man - Teddy Vann Orch

Theme From the fantastic plastic machine - harold betts

Theme from Police Story - pat williams

Probably anything with 'theme' in the title...

stop girl - 7 dwarfs

Theme from Simon Locke

Love it but always thought Rose Batiste - Hit and Run was "a bit C&W". :yes::D

Not sure about that, but Tamiko Jones - Spellbound certainly is (IMO).

Regards

on my 1st visit to the casino bryan highland the joker went wild was played twice !! september 78 , got to be the worst thing played there

One of the worst !! Ever !!!!

Theme from Simon Locke

Locke's Theme rules.

Keep on keepin on by NF Porter is almost a rock track with that moody guitar riff and psychedelic sound affects , still love it tho

????..rock track..never in a million years..

Theme from Simon Locke

You mean "BOLT" :D:thumbsup:

Locke's Theme rules.

Yes it does.

I was wrong when I said 'just about anything with the word 'Theme'in the title a few posts ago, what I should have said, judging on the later posts, was, "just about any instrumental"!

I don't know why "Locke" wasn't bigger than it ever was. It's a hundred times better than "Cochise" for example and it was a genuine TV show theme rather than a hypothetical or made up one.

While it's not a soul record it does have black music at its heart (the bass playing, the piano etc. all have their roots in soul-jazz) and would have been played by seasoned jazz session musicians. That's the point of a lot of these instrumental things: they are broadly based on black music and are at least soul-influenced.

An instrumental I've always really liked which probably has no links whatsoever to black music is "Forest Fire On Main Street" by Gasoline Powered Clock, which is pretty much a straight ahead Surf meets Texas Garage 45. The bloke behind the record, Norm Miller, had a later album on White Whale which features brilliant songwriting and arrangements.

I don't know why "Locke" wasn't bigger than it ever was. It's a hundred times better than "Cochise" for example and it was a genuine TV show theme rather than a hypothetical or made up one.

While it's not a soul record it does have black music at its heart (the bass playing, the piano etc. all have their roots in soul-jazz) and would have been played by seasoned jazz session musicians. That's the point of a lot of these instrumental things: they are broadly based on black music and are at least soul-influenced.

An instrumental I've always really liked which probably has no links whatsoever to black music is "Forest Fire On Main Street" by Gasoline Powered Clock, which is pretty much a straight ahead Surf meets Texas Garage 45. The bloke behind the record, Norm Miller, had a later album on White Whale which features brilliant songwriting and arrangements.

It was a hard record to find Gareth, nearly all copies were doubles sided demos of the A side "Score", in fact I don't think I had one for 30 years until someone found a small batch of unsold store stock about 6 years back and I bought 3 copies, one of which I still have. I have one recorded spin of it at Wigan (11/3/78) by Russ and I think it was played locally round our way, otherwise it's been deleted from the history books (it only made the Manship guide with this latest edition). Me and Mr. C used to love it at the time though.

Interesting info Pete. Agreed it's a tough one to track down.

Following on from my Gasoline Powered Clock comment, what about another record I assume was also a Gary Rushbrooke spin: The Other Ones on Knoll. Vocally and lyrically about as far away as you can get from street level ghetto soul, yet a minor Northern classic.

Slim connection to soul music is that it was written by Joey Levine, who wrote and recorded (as Joey Edwards) the original version of "How Big Is Big".

How about the Cate Bros - Where Can We Go. Was even covered up as the Anderson Bros as mentioned in the original post.

Was once told that they were (hate this term) Blue Eyed Soul boys but the title of their biggest selling album kinda gave it away - Crazy Cajun.

Great record, although I must admit on the album cover they look more like Bo & Luke Duke from the Dukes of Hazzard. Wasn't this a Dave Raistrick discovery??? :g:

Steve

Keep on keepin on by NF Porter is almost a rock track with that moody guitar riff and psychedelic sound affects , still love it tho

Could the influence be the fact that Nolan (NF) is married to Candice Zappa.... sister to the late Frank Zappa of legendary proportions on the folk / rock scene :D :D :D

Steve

Purple Haze.............. to be honest you could get James Brown, Etta James, Aretha Franklyn, Marvin Gaye, Jackie Wilson, Sam Fletcher, Sam Dees, Otis Redding.... and many others all in the studio together... and it would still sound like a rock record :yes:... because it is :thumbup:

Steve

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