Chalky Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 (edited) Why are uk sellers of Lp's in particular far more expensive than European and US dealers. Even with postage they often work out cheaper to buy from abroad. There was one Lp on here last week that I wanted and there were five copies on Discogs half the Uk sellers price or less. Do they want to sell, are they in it for what they can get out of it? This wasn't or isn't an isolated case either, time after time Uk sellers on Discogs are near the bottom of he list for sale. Edited June 25, 2013 by chalky 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
JOE TORQUAY Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 pity john manship didn't do a price guide for lp's, record collector is now much use for soul records lp's or 45s just about everybody has a few lp's don't they. joe. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Crate Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 I did hear John is compiling a price guide for LPs now, I don't know if this is true or when it is due out. But if it does come out I expect LP prices especially from the states to rise sharply as the US dealers jump on the bandwagon just as they did when the 7" book came out. Bob Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
JOE TORQUAY Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 POSTAGE IS TOO MUCH FOR LP's FROM THE STATES NOW. SOME SELLERS WANT $20 OR MORE NOT WORTH BUYING LP's ANYMORE. JOE. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kjw Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 I guess a lot of people in the UK bought their LP's when the prices were higher and are looking to get back what they paid I remember in the late 80's and early 90's LP's from the like of Jean Carn, Roy Ayers, Jones Girls etc were selling at record fairs for around £15 - now they go for around £5 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Geeselad Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 found the same thing with ogs myself, uk always very pricey Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted June 25, 2013 Author Share Posted June 25, 2013 (edited) POSTAGE IS TOO MUCH FOR LP's FROM THE STATES NOW.SOME SELLERS WANT $20 OR MORE NOT WORTH BUYING LP's ANYMORE.JOE. I agree the postage is too much from the states but even with the extra it is usually cheaper than a UK dealers copy. There is a record advertised on here at £40. On Discogs there is one at $14.99, just under a tenner, even with postage it is still half the uk price. Edited June 25, 2013 by chalky Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted June 25, 2013 Author Share Posted June 25, 2013 I guess a lot of people in the UK bought their LP's when the prices were higher and are looking to get back what they paid I remember in the late 80's and early 90's LP's from the like of Jean Carn, Roy Ayers, Jones Girls etc were selling at record fairs for around £15 - now they go for around £5 You are probably right but do UK sellers not checkout competition? Almost to a record, very seller outside the UK is cheaper than the UK seller on Discogs. I would much prefer to do my trading in this country but when LP's are twice the price and more than European and US dealers then I will do my buying with them. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 I've noticed this as well on Discogs. UK sellers are invariably at the bottom of the list as they have the highest prices. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 I've noticed this as well on Discogs. UK sellers are invariably at the bottom of the list as they have the highest prices. I am going to have to get on this discogs and sell some lp's, I find you can't give them away half the time. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mick Holdsworth Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 I am going to have to get on this discogs and sell some lp's, I find you can't give them away half the time. I joined discogs last year, and was about to list my stuff there, as I do on a few others sites like Musicstack / Gemm etc, until I came to upload my database. It was then I realised you had to either search for your items individually and add them one at a time using discogs unique number for that item, or If it wasn't there, then create a discogs number and add it that way. either way it would be one at a time, fine if you list about 20 items, but I have what I consider a small database, at about 2000. It would take me 6 months solid to retype all that. God knows how sellers with many thousands of items manage. Cheers Mick Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ian Dewhirst Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 I joined discogs last year, and was about to list my stuff there, as I do on a few others sites like Musicstack / Gemm etc, until I came to upload my database. It was then I realised you had to either search for your items individually and add them one at a time using discogs unique number for that item, or If it wasn't there, then create a discogs number and add it that way. either way it would be one at a time, fine if you list about 20 items, but I have what I consider a small database, at about 2000. It would take me 6 months solid to retype all that. God knows how sellers with many thousands of items manage. Cheers Mick I always have a couple of thousand items on there. The listings takes around a minute a record if they're already on the database, so you can list 50 a session easily. I did 30 last night when I got a spare 40 minutes. I turn over a lot of stuff on there but mostly the less obscure stuff. It's pretty perfect for me as e-bay takes around 7-8 minutes a listing and is a lot more tedious IMO..... Ian D Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted June 25, 2013 Author Share Posted June 25, 2013 (edited) If you are looking for a particular record and it is on Discogs it will always be near the top of the search results. You usually get a few choices as well. It is also a great resource with all the details about the recording. Edited June 25, 2013 by chalky Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Peter99 Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 I don't buy much these days although I have bought some albums recently. Nearly all of them came from Discogs - I really like the site. As has been said uk sellers are often way over priced compared to non uk sellers. Bought from France, Italy and Germany recently all cheaper even taking postage into account. I don't think I've ever purchased anything from ebay. Peter Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 No listing fees on Discogs either. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike Lofthouse Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 I agree the postage is too much from the states but even with the extra it is usually cheaper than a UK dealers copy. There is a record advertised on here at £40. On Discogs there is one at $14.99, just under a tenner, even with postage it is still half the uk price. And you are more likely to get a sealed copy from the US - guarantees condition for me - LP's must be in first class condition for listening at home, none of that 'OK for Djing' nonsense you get for knackered 45's. Mike 3 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest gaz thomas Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 (edited) pity john manship didn't do a price guide for lp's, record collector is now much use for soul records lp's or 45s just about everybody has a few lp's don't they. joe. I am not sure John has the information in his database to price lps correctly He is a soulman, he sells soul records that are on 45 format the obvious lps with non 45 tracks that have become collectable due to dj plays tempests, freddie butler, metros, hesitations etc what else needs to be said in a price guide. I can't see him ever doing a lp price guide . Its just not his thing. Of course I may be way off the mark I have collected thousands of lps over the years, including most of the important boogaloo things the last lp I bought of Manny was in the early 90s - It was the Deon Jackson LP on Atco It just aint what he does. craig morers database would be far more intresting as far as a realistic price guide for lps but do we need or want a guide for lps ? information is fantastic, but when it determines a price baseline. i dont think so. Edited June 25, 2013 by gaz thomas Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
JOE TORQUAY Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 a list of lp's worth collecting would be good. there's probably tons i've never heard of uk & us or european rest of world. prices are not everything but it would be nice to have a guide of some kind. joe. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest enchantedrythm Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 L.p's still the best value pro rata quality soul obscure items. theres 1000's of bargains out in the ether. A list/price guide would be ambitious to say the least though. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Might as well buy the Record Collector price guide every year, they have all the soul albums issued in the UK worth more than £10 (might be £15). Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
JOE TORQUAY Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 i've got a few record collectors books, but you've still got to know what to look for, i suppose you could have say the top 500 joe.us & uk would be start, say like a wikileaks where people could just add lps to the list which would sort itself out in a abc order, then everyone could have there 2 pennoth worth no one need argue about what was rarest or worth the most, Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Agentsmith Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Why are uk sellers of Lp's in particular far more expensive than European and US dealers. Even with postage they often work out cheaper to buy from abroad. There was one Lp on here last week that I wanted and there were five copies on Discogs half the Uk sellers price or less. Do they want to sell, are they in it for what they can get out of it? This wasn't or isn't an isolated case either, time after time Uk sellers on Discogs are near the bottom of he list for sale. because we think we control the market chalky. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Peter99 Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 because we think we control the market chalky. Not according to some of our friends across the water LOL Peter Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted June 28, 2013 Author Share Posted June 28, 2013 i've got a few record collectors books, but you've still got to know what to look for, i suppose you could have say the top 500 joe.us & uk would be start, say like a wikileaks where people could just add lps to the list which would sort itself out in a abc order, then everyone could have there 2 pennoth worth no one need argue about what was rarest or worth the most, There are a couple of great Lp topics on here somewhere. One was LP only tracks and another LP recommendation topic. Maybe one of the mods can find them for you. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Peter99 Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 There are a couple of great Lp topics on here somewhere. One was LP only tracks and another LP recommendation topic. Maybe one of the mods can find them for you. This was a decent set playing from LP's only. Peter Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Peter99 Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 There are a couple of great Lp topics on here somewhere. One was LP only tracks and another LP recommendation topic. Maybe one of the mods can find them for you. This was an interesting thread too. Peter Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Agentsmith Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 This was a decent set playing from LP's only. Peter sorry pete, but where's the playlist? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Harry Crosby Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 sorry pete, but where's the playlist? Is it in the Podcast link in the last post? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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