Guest Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 I don't get around much, but you don't often hear any Doctor Buzzard, do you? Were those the campest tracks ever played on the scene? That prompts me to mention a couple of other Mecca faves I haven't heard in yonks: Pierre Hunt - Got to have all your love Look lets make love (Crikey, minds gone blank - who did that? -Sydney Someone?) Also recall an album track by SSO (?) "Can't say no" (?) All sounded good at the time, possibly considered crap disco now. link Sidney Thomas on Parallel records Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dayo Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 Thanks Blade. Now what was that bloody SSO track... Think the album was called Tonights the Night. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Craig W Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 Ive got a 45 here in front of me which has come with a job lot I have recieved today by S.S.O which is called Tonights the night on Shady Brook 019 is that the one. It also shite. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dayo Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 Ive got a 45 here in front of me which has come with a job lot I have recieved today by S.S.O which is called Tonights the night on Shady Brook 019 is that the one. It also shite. link Have a look at the B side; the one that Levine played was called something like "Can't turn it loose, Can't say no" I'm pretty sure it was an album track. It's eons ago, but I remember it put me in mind of "Cool Off". I'm sure you're right though, it will be shite! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Citizen P Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 Really Obvious ones I know , but what about Happy-William Bell The Joker ??? Tony Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 Love em all Dave lad but Black Nasty is a tune sadly can't see it fitting in with most peoples taste at the moment though eh??? Too right John, tune and a half but I can rarely get anyone to play it, even if I take my copy LOL! Partly an East/West thing again I reckon! Did hear it a few weeks ago, think it was Yocky Sad thing is, must be a lot of younger soulies who have never heard it! Elusive is another similar case from the same year Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest DeeJay Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 Invitations - Skiing in the snow Betty Boo - Say it isn't so Tommy Sands - Statue and a host of others link Hey Trouty if you'd have been at the last Angel City you'd have heard me play Betty Boo You need to get out more mate DJ P.S. One of the original RCA promo acetates that they gave to some of the DJ's not your Grapevine rubbish! Mind you , you dont see it for sale much do you Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest DeeJay Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 Few records i havent heard for a long time been putting together a beginners cd for people new to the scene in LA Ironically really enjoyed listening too it Here's a few of the tracks im sure some wont have been played for a while as you can imagine its pretty difficult over here not knowing whats being played Bela Delaney Bobby Hebb Love love love Bob Cuban Keanya Collins Jackie Edwards World Column NF Porter Shakers 1 wonderful moment Gene Chandler I CAn Take Care Of Myself DJ Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Johnny One Trout Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 Hey Trouty if you'd have been at the last Angel City you'd have heard me play Betty Boo You need to get out more mate DJ P.S. One of the original RCA promo acetates that they gave to some of the DJ's not your Grapevine rubbish! Mind you , you dont see it for sale much do you link I know and i may have heard once since then but you really don't hear it that often Von Trout Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Johnny One Trout Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 Few records i havent heard for a long time been putting together a beginners cd for people new to the scene in LA Ironically really enjoyed listening too it Here's a few of the tracks im sure some wont have been played for a while as you can imagine its pretty difficult over here not knowing whats being played Bela Delaney Bobby Hebb Love love love Bob Cuban Keanya Collins Jackie Edwards World Column NF Porter Shakers 1 wonderful moment Gene Chandler I CAn Take Care Of Myself DJ link I'd say that i've heard all of those out at some point this year Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 A couple of records I have revisited recently are : Benny Spellman - Fortune Teller Astral trip - Mystic Moods Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
oldsteve woomble Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 That prompts me to mention a couple of other Mecca faves I haven't heard in yonks: Look lets make love (Crikey, minds gone blank - who did that? -Sydney Someone?) All sounded good at the time, possibly considered crap disco now. link Sidney Thomas on (I think without digging it out of the box!) Parallax. Fantastically amazing 70's just screaming to be played now (and I do play it at Cleethorpes Winter Gardens!). We also gave it turntable time on 70's Sunday at Cleethorpes Weekender to good response.... Look let's make-a luv...an' see if you like it..... TOP TUNE! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 Do these great records from the mid- eighties still get played out and about Tony Middleton - Spanish Maiden The Marsha Gee - Peanut Duck Cover Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest in town Mikey Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 Reggie Garner - Hotline. (once played by every DJ at Hinckley in the same evening.) Carl Douglas - Serving a sentence of life. Rita Da Costa - Dont bring me down. Luther Vandross - I'll let you slide. (had a brief 15 minutes at Yate. I've never heard it played out anywhere else.) Adams Apples - Don't take it out on this world. Ben Zine - Village of tears. (first record I heard on entering my first allnighter. On the same night had a request played by Clarkie).......... .....Bobby Sheen - Dr. Love Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Johnny One Trout Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 Luther Vandross - I'll let you slide. (had a brief 15 minutes at Yate. I've never heard it played out anywhere else.) link Are you sure Mikey, was Yate still going in 83/84??? Don Trout Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest in town Mikey Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 Are you sure Mikey, was Yate still going in 83/84??? Don Trout link Cant have been then??? God I can even picture nyself sitting outside in my mate Paul's car listening to it on a tape, while it snowed outside. I have obviously got my venues mixed up. Did it get played at Stafford then?? I remember Dave T playing the odd Luther track, maybe it was included there. Oh I dont know. 'Kin top tune tho Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garethx Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 Heard Kenny Smith's "Lord, What's Happening To Your People" at Fish Ain't Bitin' in Manchester last month. It sounded great over a good sound system. Got home and dusted mine down, and it started me wondering whether it would ever be a big record if discovered today. I'm not so sure. In the old days it seemed the punters' tastes were far broader: people were younger and had far more open minds, and the rules as to what was and what wasn't 'northern soul' were far less fully defined. As an extension of this theme, I wonder if many of the Stafford classics would take off on the current scene. Who would have the enterprising nature and taste to try to break a record like Johnny Gilliam's "Room Full Of Tears" today: nobody I suspect. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mattbolton Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 I only heard the Determinations a few weeks ago off the Kent King CD and it broke my heart in a big way. I know it's not THAT expensive. Just pure class. Anyone have one for sale? And Mikey, is that Luther Vandross the same as The Saints? I'm totally in love with the Saints record at the moment. Best thing I've heard in aaages. That vocal break where they harmonise just sends me. And the clean Telecaster arpeggio riff knocks me right out. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garethx Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 (edited) Matt Jacob Graulund was selling a copy of "Bing Bong" a couple of weeks ago. Don't know if he still has it, but you could try him. Luther's "I'll Let You Slide" ain't the same track as The Saints on WigWam. Still pretty good though. I remember Tony Rounce playing Luther Vandross "I've Been Working" at the 100 Club in the dim and distant past. I sometimes think LV is underrated by soul fans. Then again, sometimes I think he's overrated. Go figure... Edited October 25, 2004 by garethx Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 Matt Jacob Graulund was selling a copy of "Bing Bong" a couple of weeks ago. Don't know if he still has it, but you could try him. Luther's "I'll Let You Slide" ain't the same track as The Saints on WigWam. Still pretty good though. I remember Tony Rounce playing Luther Vandross "I've Been Working" at the 100 Club in the dim and distant past. I sometimes think LV is underrated by soul fans. Then again, sometimes I think he's overrated. Go figure... link Luther's "Don't Wanna Be Your Fool" is one of my fave 70's tracks. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Jamie Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 Look lets make love (Crikey, minds gone blank - who did that? -Sydney Someone?) All sounded good at the time, possibly considered crap disco now. link Might not be the same one, but you never know! Ronnie Love - Let's make Love - Almeria?? Just with you mentioning 'disco' - it does have that hi-hat sound. Was a record I was brought up with. Played it on the odd occasion over the last year. Jamie Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Jamie Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 Sidney Thomas on Parallel records link Note to self: Read all the thread before replying!!!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dayo Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 Rita Da Costa - Dont bring me down. I remember when Ian Levine played Rita Da Costa for the very first time. Someone (a dealer, I guess), had got him to spin it blind. Ian nearly wet his pants and loudly declared it the greatest Northern Soul sound he had EVER heard. He was literally begging to buy it. Heat of the moment I guess! Great pop/soul record though. Heard Jesse Fisher's "You're not loving a beginner" around the same time. Killer track. Does that get played these days? I've said before, I don't get out much... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Johnny One Trout Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 Cant have been then??? God I can even picture nyself sitting outside in my mate Paul's car listening to it on a tape, while it snowed outside. I have obviously got my venues mixed up. Did it get played at Stafford then?? I remember Dave T playing the odd Luther track, maybe it was included there. Oh I dont know. 'Kin top tune tho link It's off the Busy Body LP from '83 so it must have been!!! Unless your thinking of the Saints - I'll let you slide on Wigwam now that's a tunerooonie John Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Johnny One Trout Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 In the old days it seemed the punters' tastes were far broader: people were younger and had far more open minds, and the rules as to what was and what wasn't 'northern soul' were far less fully defined. link Maybe that is the problem if someone has written a rule book!!!!! There are no rules when it comes to what makes a record huge on the Northern Scene and to me that's part of it's beauty. Why should someone try to dictate their taste on me, or by the same token who am i to try and dictate to someone else what my perception of Northern Soul is. It is different for everybody and that has been part of it's wide ranging appeal over all these years and VIVE LE DIFFERENCE Anyway if these rules are defined now, how come Joseph Webster is so huge or how come George Lemmons ever got played, there ain't no rules not even regarding rarity or else Ace Spectrum and Drizabone would never have become popular. Not having a go Gareth just don't like rules btw why have you got Flynny as your avatar??? Troutski Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Johnny One Trout Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 Luther's "Don't Wanna Be Your Fool" is one of my fave 70's tracks. link Gasp!!!!! great album as well. Although i don't think you could ever call Luther Under-rated, unless you are talking about under-rated in the so called real soul circles Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest in town Mikey Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 It's off the Busy Body LP from '83 so it must have been!!! Unless your thinking of the Saints - I'll let you slide on Wigwam now that's a tunerooonie John link Not heard the Saints, I dont think so anyway. Dave Thorley used to force me to sit in his car and listen to luther V tapes, until I begged to be let out. heh heh. Well that only happened once, but why let the truth get in the way etc etc. I absolutely love 'I'll let you slide.' It coincided with me liking other things like 'Hide nor hair', 'the Snake' 'Fortune Teller'. You know, songs that told a story, as opposed to "how my baby is the sweetest/rottenest" etc. I was also listening to stuff like 'Marva Hicks - Looking over my shoulder', and was still blissfully unaware that I needed to decide whether i liked just 60s tunes, or was going to embrace some of that disco influenced 70s stuff. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Johnny One Trout Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 Funny thing is last night i followed a link on here to that other two plus two velgo thingy and ended up having a bit of a OH MY GAWWWWD DO YOU REMEMBER THIS session much to the annoyance of my wife (Sorry Ali ) What a load of shite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i really had to do double takes on more than one occasion just to see how bad some of these things really were!!! So please please please seriously have a long hard think before you start reactivating some of these forgotten oldies. In a lot of cases there are some really good reasons why they are forgotten........... The really worrying one though was that even though i liked it at first i soon came to hate James Coit's Black Power but such was the dearth of quality last night that i found myself liking it in a funky howler context not really a northern way, of course it could all have been down to the numerous hot toddy's to combat the super flu virus never the less it was all a harrowing experience................................. Here's a few low lites Helen Shapiro - Stop and you will become aware (a favourite through my formative years sounds like Cilla nowadays) Grand Piano Co - Esperanto (Just say NO) Charlie Gracie - He'll never love you like i do (See RnR was played at the Casino) Teddy Van Orch - Coloured Man (NO) Johnny Vanelli - 7 Days of loving you (This used to be one of my favourite M's sounds and now i can only ask myself why?????what was that all about then) There are others and much worse records played but these are ones that i actually loved at the time, it really does beg the question how F***in good must the gear have been back then?????????????????????? Now then let's see if i can find Paula Durante and see if she can stand the test of time................... Trouty Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Johnny One Trout Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 Not heard the Saints, I dont think so anyway. link The Saints is superb was it seeemed at one time an Arfur Fenn spin Nowadays i think Sir Andrew of Dyson and Lord Butch of Dobson are spinning it as well (appologie if i have the chronology wrong just how i heard it oh and Sam has been know to spin it off a dub but shhhhhhh) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garethx Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 I agree with you to a greater extent, John. But the rules (such as they are) do seem more defined. Who but Butch could make Joseph Webster such a big record? In the years since Stafford there seems to have been a move away from adventurous programming across the eras and genres. The gulf between 60s soul fans and fans of music recorded later seems as wide as it's ever been. The new avatar is a response to another thread on here about white men singing soul; Can anyone guess the identity of the Flynn-alike? He was responsible for one pretty famous Northern 'anthem'. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Johnny One Trout Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 I agree with you to a greater extent, John. But the rules (such as they are) do seem more defined. Who but Butch could make Joseph Webster such a big record? In the years since Stafford there seems to have been a move away from adventurous programming across the eras and genres. The gulf between 60s soul fans and fans of music recorded later seems as wide as it's ever been. link Soul Sam With the greatest respect and i really do mean that, Sam gets more exposure to the masses from one end of the country to the other than Butch does (more's the pity, i'd like to see the pair of them week in week out personally ) Having said that yeah i know what you mean The gulf you speak of generally seems to be a one way thing as i see it. Most of the people i know who love their later stuff also love their 60's wheras a vocal few who only like sixties Northern seem keen to keep it 60's only which it really never has been, has it?? Vive la difference It's all good and it's the differences that make the whole sustainable IMVFHO that is Trouty BTW not a clue who the Flynn-a-like is Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 I agree with you to a greater extent, John. But the rules (such as they are) do seem more defined. Who but Butch could make Joseph Webster such a big record? In the years since Stafford there seems to have been a move away from adventurous programming across the eras and genres. The gulf between 60s soul fans and fans of music recorded later seems as wide as it's ever been. The new avatar is a response to another thread on here about white men singing soul; Can anyone guess the identity of the Flynn-alike? He was responsible for one pretty famous Northern 'anthem'. link Jerry Fuller ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
FrankM Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 .....Bobby Sheen - Dr. Love I heard this last week with a whole bunch of other "classics" going down extremely well with a very under 30 audience at Move on Up in Leeds so maybe they are better heard when you're young and your hormones are all over the place. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest LeoLyxxx Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 The Saints is superb was it seeemed at one time an Arfur Fenn spin Nowadays i think Sir Andrew of Dyson and Lord Butch of Dobson are spinning it as well (appologie if i have the chronology wrong just how i heard it oh and Sam has been know to spin it off a dub but shhhhhhh) link Didn't Richie Conn use to have a copy? man thats a great track, love the guitar work.. Regarding the question about Spooky & Sue, it's still cheap (around 25£ i would say) but i like it.. a bit cheesy but quite good, also good with Chuck Jackson IMO best Leo Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Louise Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 The Saints 5 known Copies Arthur Fenn Butch Dave Welding Andy Dyson Ritchie Conn In that order Louise xxx Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Headsy Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 There are others and much worse records played but these are ones that i actually loved at the time, it really does beg the question how F***in good must the gear have been back then?????????????????????? Now then let's see if i can find Paula Durante and see if she can stand the test of time................... Trouty link Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Johnny One Trout Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 The Saints 5 known Copies Arthur Fenn Butch Dave Welding Andy Dyson Ritchie Conn In that order Louise xxx link Mmm can't think where at the moment but i could have sworn that there was at least another, and didn't RC sell his on he did list it for auction a bit back ? John Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest LeoLyxxx Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 Mmm can't think where at the moment but i could have sworn that there was at least another, and didn't RC sell his on he did list it for auction a bit back ? John link yep i think thats right, he sold it.. best Leo Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Paul R Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 As an none participating souly nowadays I don't know if they have been revived at any time but I still love to hear. The Willows, My Kinda Guy, Diane Brooks, In My Heart And Betty Webb, I Know. What a good Label MGM was(IMHO) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dayo Posted October 29, 2004 Share Posted October 29, 2004 The new avatar is a response to another thread on here about white men singing soul; Can anyone guess the identity of the Flynn-alike? He was responsible for one pretty famous Northern 'anthem'. link Was it the same guy who co-wrote "My Way"? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted October 29, 2004 Share Posted October 29, 2004 Here's a few low lites Helen Shapiro - Stop and you will become aware (a favourite through my formative years sounds like Cilla nowadays) Grand Piano Co - Esperanto (Just say NO) Charlie Gracie - He'll never love you like i do (See RnR was played at the Casino) Teddy Van Orch - Coloured Man (NO) Johnny Vanelli - 7 Days of loving you (This used to be one of my favourite M's sounds and now i can only ask myself why?????what was that all about then) You are in denial John. Esperanto is shit, the others are ok, Charlie Gracie is not a rock and roll record, Helen is brilliant, Johnny vanelli is an absolutely top dancer. You shouldn't be ashamed of liking these records. I mean, listen to something like Ton Of Dynamite - it's just a racket - but it's a brilliant racket. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garethx Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 The avatar is Dan "Way Of The Crowd" Folger. Agree with you John about Uncle Sam. When he's on form, few can touch him. Soul On! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 The Saints 5 known Copies Arthur Fenn Butch Dave Welding Andy Dyson Ritchie Conn In that order Louise xxx link There was one on Ebay 2 months ago - I thought I was going to win it at 500 dollars then about 10 snipe bids went on and it went up to 2500 or something like that Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Johnny One Trout Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 You are in denial John. Esperanto is shit, the others are ok, Charlie Gracie is not a rock and roll record, Helen is brilliant, Johnny vanelli is an absolutely top dancer. You shouldn't be ashamed of liking these records. I mean, listen to something like Ton Of Dynamite - it's just a racket - but it's a brilliant racket. link You are probably right Pete admittedly i was listening to them on the net which is not the best way to hear records like these as the tend to end up even tinnier and loose a lot against hearing them out. Charlie Gracie is RnR though John Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 You are probably right Pete admittedly i was listening to them on the net which is not the best way to hear records like these as the tend to end up even tinnier and loose a lot against hearing them out. Charlie Gracie is RnR though John link Interestingly - well not really - a lot of the bassline running through the Charlie Gracie record is identical to Day tripper by The Beatles :o Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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