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There's no point in answering people's comments on the thread about "Souled Out", as they risk being deleted, and I have no wish to type out comments that will be removed.

Mike asked those going off-topic to start a new thread, and so I have.

I will try to be at least more civil than I am on A.N.S., but I refuse to be castrated.

I will not post on the "Souled Out" thread unless it is to specifically comment on items relevant to the film, and my abject horror at the Soul Police dissing it before it's even been made.

I have opened this thread specifically to answer comments and fight back. I realise that if someone puts a nasty comment on one of my videos on YouTube I can be as rude as I like back to them and delete their comments, and block them from having any further access to my videos at all.

I have no such luxury here.

As I said, I shall try to be civil, certainly to most, but find it very hard to be civil to those few for whom I have ZERO respect.

Let the curtain go up.....

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    As I said Soul Of The North was an article heading not a description of a type of music, that came later as Northern Soul which he had been using for some time. Sorry to be pedantic.

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Give me Jackie Ross anyday

You asked for it

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This whole subject is so sad . Ian , why do you keep biting.

You asked for it

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Selfish one not as good as the orginal recorded version too disco - i -fied

God help you if you ever get confronted by Doctor Buzzard's Original Savannah Band,

God help you if you ever get confronted by Doctor Buzzard's Original Savannah Band,

Ian, shhhhhhhhhhhhh, I am busy playing on line poker and you keep interupting me huh.gif Just folded a pair of queens cos I wasn't concentrating :thumbsup:

QoFxx

I love and adore you, and you're my new best friend.

LOL! ohmy.gif Then answer my question about three pages ago! :thumbsup:

Then answer my question about three pages ago!

Which one ??

Which one ??

The one about Soulful House.

The one about Soulful House.

As everyone on the planet is looking at this thread......... :thumbsup:

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Maybe I did do a second spot then, in November 1973. My first spot was the first week of October, but Russ has always maintained I did two diferent spots a month apart, not just one. If this date in November is correct, you may have just proved this. And my memory of only doing one is wrong this time. I think this is quite fascinating.

Yes Ian, as i said in a earlier post the last time you were on the decks at Wigan Nov 73.

I remember because it was my old mate Dave Ellson 1st night at the Casino.

He did a tape on the night, i don,t know if he has still got it?

Dave.

Ian,looking back now,how do you think records which were played late on at the Mecca,like "Nine times"- Moments, "Do what you feel" - Rimshots,and "Fifth of Beethoven" - Walter Murphy have stood up?

This still scares the sh*t out of me every time I see it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :thumbsup:

KTF.

Drew.

Me to, makes the spine tingle for all the wrong reasons, but those of us of a certain age may find this version even more disturbing

Scared me and

I am a Tory unsure.gif

QoFxx

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Ian,looking back now,how do you think records which were played late on at the Mecca,like "Nine times"- Moments, "Do what you feel" - Rimshots,and "Fifth of Beethoven" - Walter Murphy have stood up?

I love Nine Times...heard it on my first visit to Wigan

:thumbsup: just trying to get this topic away from handbags and onto somthing soulful!

Just woundering how Ian went from Mecca DJ to producing records in the USA as i find this time 74 to 76 at Blackpool Mecca intresting you got a problem with that?

Steve J

Problem? Hell no, why should I have a problem?

I find this thread quite entertaining. It puts me in mind of a TV programme: An Audience With Dame Edna. laugh.gif

Selfish one not as good as the orginal recorded version too disco - i -fied and my favorite is "I've Got The SKill"

QoFxx

Hi Chrissie , thats my fave too :thumbsup: brill record yes.gif xx

Have we had the 'Elgins - Don't Wait Around' yet? I've probably missed some posts.

Great tune that one Ian!

Here it is and Eventually glad to help out

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Problem? Hell no, why should I have a problem?

I find this thread quite entertaining. It puts me in mind of a TV programme: An Audience With Dame Edna. :lol:

you cant capture my childhood. here is a selection (10) of my favourite female sounds; if you can reproduce even one, then i will surrender.

lillian dupree- shield around my heart.

deena johnson- i'm a sad girl.

dena barnes- if you ever walked out of my life.

debbie curtis- i check the mailbox.

tobe bowe- i can feel him slipping away.

lorraine & the delights- baby i need you.

shirley lawson- just one more chance.

micki farrow- set my heart at ease.

ela woods- i need your love.

last night fell in love with you baby.

keep the faith. :)

Thank f*** for that i got to the end or did i :lol:

tedsoul! there is no begining and there is no end. you should read my book! when i was a youngster, i honestly thought that ian levine was selling the northern soul jersey, if you like. now, i dont think that way. there cant be anything wrong with capturing the original artists for posterity... i still remember hearing al williams- i am nothing for the first time, at an all-nighter in edinburgh when i was 14! you can't ever go back...at least as far as a personal experiance is concerned. :)

whhoooah...........didn't suddenly dislike it or any other record that was out to make money.Some records can appear to be a bit too contrived/twee ie; manufactured for the scene.

The general ethos of the scene is the Underdog syndrome,whether it be 60's or modern.

We all like to think we're the first to acknowledge a record,to hear it for what it is,to lift it from obscurity,to make it our own.

Is the scene not built on records that sold f -all.? Recorded by artists who generally made nothing out of their talent.

I don't like being told ,"this is soul,buy it".

ps- no need to vent you anger on me in your "bold" font.

It all depends when you joined the SCENE as the majority of records played first on the Scene were by established artist who did make a good living out of their music (Geno Washington, Jimmy James, Impressions, O'Jays, Motown Acts, Stax acts etc and even some of the BIG bombers out there, went on to earn a living in the Music industry, generally any artist that had multiple releases must have had varying degrees of success in some capacity or else they wouldn't have got the chance to record again and again. Some of these obscure artist had careers of ten+ years, so of course they made a living from it, they may have been third or fourth division but that doesn't mean they didn't pay the rent out of the work, no one does anything for nothing, they may have had high hopes of reaching big time, but we all don't get there, it's a fact of life. By your account, the northern/rare soul scene needs to Burn any record that sold more than 100 copies and shoot any DJ who plays one.

No-one's accidentally going to stumble in here if they want to discuss The Orwell, now are they ???

Just logged on at 4pm today and it's taken me best part of 4 hours to get thru the thread!

Very interesting stuff but we shouldn't be surprised at it's popularity should we?

Love him or loathe him BUT you can't ignore him! Surely a shot in the arm for Soul-Source!

Good evening Ian - hope you're well mate - thanks for the mention above, can we discuss The Orwell then :)

As it happens, yer good mate Mr Curtis did an authentic 'Last Hour of The Mecca' set at our last one and it was superb :lol:

Cheers

Steve

He was the lead singer on "Suspicion", he was a lovely bloke, a super talented singer, Sylvia's lyrics are the best and most heart wrenching she ever wrote, and it distresses me to hear you dismiss a record I hold sacred as being "disco".

Sounds good to me, uplifting happy tune not heard it before is it available as a 45?

The one about Soulful House.

I answered loads of questions about Soulful House.

Just not my personal music. Sorry.

not disco at all.

sounds pretty good to me.

mark

Thankyou.

An open mind at last.

Yes Ian, as i said in a earlier post the last time you were on the decks at Wigan Nov 73.

I remember because it was my old mate Dave Ellson 1st night at the Casino.

He did a tape on the night, i don,t know if he has still got it?

Dave.

Well as I know for a fact I did the third one ever, that means I definitely did two.

No wonder Bill Pye threatened to fire me from the Mecca.

Ian,looking back now,how do you think records which were played late on at the Mecca,like "Nine times"- Moments, "Do what you feel" - Rimshots,and "Fifth of Beethoven" - Walter Murphy have stood up?

Some have some haven't. We NEVER EVER played A Fifth Of Beethoven - SACRILIGE !!!!!

We played the other side, "California Strut".

Here is my favourite Mecca memory from that period, and no it's not my record and has nothing whatsoever to do with me.

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Ian,looking back now,how do you think records which were played late on at the Mecca,like "Nine times"- Moments, "Do what you feel" - Rimshots,and "Fifth of Beethoven" - Walter Murphy have stood up?

Here's one more late Mecca classic that we all loved endlessly.

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And while we're at it - one more

THE Highland Room anthem.

This is great thanks to Ian for filming this , where else could we see this ?

He died since. Sad. Nice man.

Here it is and Eventually glad to help out

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you cant capture my childhood. here is a selection (10) of my favourite female sounds; if you can reproduce even one, then i will surrender.

dena barnes- if you ever walked out of my life.

I tried everything I could to find her, back in 1998 and 1999.

Tim Ashibende met her once, but she was very ill then, and all trace of her phone numbers and address turned up nothing when we tried.

It all depends when you joined the SCENE as the majority of records played first on the Scene were by established artist who did make a good living out of their music ( Jimmy James )

And I'm STILL recording him.

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Good evening Ian - hope you're well mate - thanks for the mention above, can we discuss The Orwell then

Hello handsome.

Don't think your Orwell fans will be too enamoured of this thread.

How's life ?? Remember the rugby shorts threads ???

Love him or loathe him BUT you can't ignore him! Surely a shot in the arm for Soul-Source!

Steve, while you're here, see if you like this. It's right up your street.

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Sounds good to me, uplifting happy tune not heard it before is it available as a 45?

No, it was released on a Kev Roberts Goldsoul CD called "Solid Ground", but it's deleted now and actually quite hard to find. I keep getting asked for copies and I have one left which is my own copy and that's it.

How's life ?? Remember the rugby shorts threads ???

Hello babycakes

God how can we forget that ! You and your obsessions :lol::)

Haven't watched those Youtube clips yet as the sound on the PC packed up. John's just mended it but we're off the the Power Station so I'll catch up tomorrow.

xxx

Lovely song . You should be proud of that one . Great melody and proper chord changes .

Way better than the 'collector' type sounds one has to endure at soul nights these days .

Thankyou. I am more proud of that particular one than I can put into words.

Your post made this whole entire thread worthwhile for me. If just one new person appreciates that wonderful song, then I am happy.

I thank you for restoring my faith

To pretend as Ian D does that we are sat at the feet of Plato as pearls of wisdom spill from his lips is disingenious to say the least.

ROD

LOL, that's funny Rod, but as poetically as you've put it, I don't really think that was the image I was trying to get across. :lol:

Ian D :)

Simon, you have been a friend of mine on MySpace for a year and a half. I think you're also a friend on facebook.

Are you being a hypocrite here to make yourself look like the big man ???

Hi Ian,

Why am i being a hypocrite, you can be friends & still have views on someone.

I'm not trying to or interested in looking like the big man, that's not my style at all, i'm just writing it as i see it.

I've seen you come & go on many NS internet forums over the years, i'm sure this one will pan out the same way the others went.

For the record as i said in my previous thread, there's a side to you i quite like & i am happy to acknowledge the large amount you have contributed in the past to Northern Soul music.

Simon

Hi Ian,

Why am i being a hypocrite, you can be friends & still have views on someone.

I'm not trying to or interested in looking like the big man, that's not my style at all, i'm just writing it as i see it.

I've seen you come & go on many NS internet forums over the years, i'm sure this one will pan out the same way the others went.

For the record as i said in my previous thread, there's a side to you i quite like & i am happy to acknowledge the large amount you have contributed in the past to Northern Soul music.

Simon

I do still like you. I just wish that someone who I thought of as a friend didn't slag me off. There are more than enough enemies to do that, and talking of that, how long can it be before your dear old friend and my nemesis Stuart Tyler comes along to wind me up ???

Hello babycakes

God how can we forget that ! You and your obsessions

Haven't watched those Youtube clips yet as the sound on the PC packed up. John's just mended it but we're off the the Power Station so I'll catch up tomorrow.

xxx

Ooooooh my fabulous FABULOUS Empress.

I've seen you come & go on many NS internet forums over the years, i'm sure this one will pan out the same way the others went.

Not true.

I was an early member on the original Soul Source but got banned in December 2000. It was all over a derisory comment about Billy Ocean as I remember.

I founded A.N.S. on January 2nd 2001, and it's still going and thriving to this day. Small and compact but thriving and a hive of interesting postings.

Now I have rejoined Soul Source, that's the sum total of my internet NS forums, so I don't think your comment was particularly fair.

Not true.

I was an early member on the original Soul Source but got banned in December 2000. It was all over a derisory comment about Billy Ocean as I remember.

I founded A.N.S. on January 2nd 2001, and it's still going and thriving to this day. Small and compact but thriving and a hive of interesting postings.

Now I have rejoined Soul Source, that's the sum total of my internet NS forums, so I don't think your comment was particularly fair.

Ok, fair dos Ian, but i have seen this sequence played out on the web a few times though.

Billy Ocean, ah those were the days, remember it well, sounds sorta funny now getting banned from an internet forum for an argument over Billy Ocean!

Simon :lol:

Ok, fair dos Ian, but i have seen this sequence played out on the web a few times though.

Billy Ocean, ah those were the days, remember it well, sounds sorta funny now getting banned from an internet forum for an argument over Billy Ocean!

Simon

It does indeed, but I DID. Something to do with not being polite and respectful to a fellow member as I recall.

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I do still like you. I just wish that someone who I thought of as a friend didn't slag me off. There are more than enough enemies to do that, and talking of that, how long can it be before your dear old friend and my nemesis Stuart Tyler comes along to wind me up ???

I feel a bit bad now, i don't like to come across as slagging off anyone, it's really not what i'm about at all, i apologise if that's how it came across, i just read the threads & reply how i see them.

Mr Tyler's been a bit quiet on here of late, must be all that Jersey air wearing him out! :lol:

Simon

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