I have hated this record forever and imo has to be one of the most over rated records on the scene.............

Coco & Ben - good feelin - horrible!

just had to get off my chest.

agree about the george lemons track!......how on earth was that expected to sell?....a few others...barbara dane....ben zine...and cobblestone trick me treat me.

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Edited July 23, 201212 yr by grant

Ah come on, Ends Of The Earth is utter brilliance, dramatic production, fantastic record...Paris Blues is good...the one by him that sounds like the Pub Singer is "My Home Town"

Ha ha, yeah bit of a pub singer song that Paris Blues (I do like it though)

This has go straight in at number one for best Nothern pub singer song awards.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1fpHwWpqG60

Aid

Well, it's the diversity of opinion here that makes it the place that it is.

I actually think it is not too bad a song, but it would be more realistically classified as something Englebert should have sung!

It may not surprise you to learn then that the original To The Ends Of The Earth was done by Nat King Cole...

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hi grant, are you still feeling champion?.....i uncovered that tune and upset chris churm, lol...it was his top tune.

sure am Jim, so its Chris' fault, wait til i see him next lol

It may not surprise you to learn then that the original To The Ends Of The Earth was done by Nat King Cole...

No more than it surprised me to 'learn' ( as you put it) who did 'What a difference a a day makes' originally.

We all start somewhere, fella.

No more than it surprised me to 'learn' ( as you put it) who did 'What a difference a a day makes' originally.

We all start somewhere, fella.

How should I have worded it?

....ben zine...and cobblestone trick me treat me.

Good pop....bad pop? I don't know...

Not sure if already mentioned, considering it's popularity probably not, but Holly St James, really never got it

Awful to my ears, but some people think it's the epitome of northern soul.

One from me "Put me in your pocket" - never understood it, just a clink clink beat and a poor vocalist to me.

How should I have worded it?

With a bit more respect.

With a bit more respect.

Don't be so pathetic.

Edited July 23, 201212 yr by Pete S

Arthur Willis, Milton James (Dore), awful.

:ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy:

Don't be so pathetic.

LOL! WAFC.

Respect a problem for you?

Eddie Parker I'm Gone Well and truly overrated, probably due to rarity.

Kegsy

The thing is, the first time I ever heard this tune was on a cd at home, and I thought, what's the fuss all about?

Then you hear it at an allnighter and bang! it's magical. Had the same experience with Damon Fox. It's dance music, not listening music.

Tommy Navarro

Caressors - I can't stay away

Johnny Caswell

Awful to my ears, but some people think it's the epitome of northern soul.

One from me "Put me in your pocket" - never understood it, just a clink clink beat and a poor vocalist to me.

Agree whole heartedly, the epitome of dreadful, however irrespective of where we all go I can't remember hearing 'pocket' out for erm decades, but Ms St James, any oldies night and it's a 'winner'

Yep let's just say nice things about everyone and everything, no criticism of anything at all, flowers and chocolates and jelly and balloons all round. Every soul record ever made is absolutely brilliant, there are no bad ones in Bob and Jocks magical happy place.

What a fab forum it would be if we all followed those rules and didn't dislike anything at all.

Or you could just leave...

yes, that's exactly what I said. only say positive things ever. thanks for fully understanding my post where again i was saying that people can only say positive things. also thank you for the suggestion that I leave, that was very helpful. thank you.

yes, that's exactly what I said. only say positive things ever. thanks for fully understanding my post where again i was saying that people can only say positive things. also thank you for the suggestion that I leave, that was very helpful. thank you.

also, in no way are you whinier than the old people in my grandparents' retirement home

Vicky Styles

Good pop....bad pop? I don't know...

:lol:

TOMMY NAVARRO

TWO PLUS TWO--VELGO

LOL! WAFC.

Respect a problem for you?

lol indeed D!

Talking of respect, look at your post count/contribution to the site and look at that of him that you quote.

Some of the records listed on this thread are howlers. Some I can't believe they would diss. Joe Jama? Anyway each to their own and in essence that's it isn't it? All about the soul, less about the bickering...

As this is a a thread about overrated records, I'll add 2 of my own. A lot of people on here seen to rave about them, but I can't listen to them:- Rufus Lumley "Stronger Than Me", and Cajun Hart " Got To Find A way". I absolutely don't get them at all.

Paul

Not sure if already mentioned, considering it's popularity probably not, but Holly St James, really never got it

Hi Pete,

Have a listen to Wombat - I'm getting on Life, then Holly St James dont sound quite so bad.

Cheers Phil

Hi Pete,

Have a listen to Wombat - I'm getting on Life, then Holly St James dont sound quite so bad.

Cheers Phil

I think I really like Wombat, not because it's a great record, just because it's a memory jerker. People not around at the time must be mystified about that record but it was as big a record in it's day as anything ever - undeniably a great record to dance to. I don't like or have never liked Holly St James though.

As this is a a thread about overrated records, I'll add 2 of my own. A lot of people on here seen to rave about them, but I can't listen to them:- Rufus Lumley "Stronger Than Me", and Cajun Hart " Got To Find A way". I absolutely don't get them at all.

Paul

Another two in my all time top 100, I think at one point I would have walked the length of the country to get a copy of Cajun hart.

Love this one

me too

The thing is, the first time I ever heard this tune was on a cd at home, and I thought, what's the fuss all about?

Then you hear it at an allnighter and bang! it's magical. Had the same experience with Damon Fox. It's dance music, not listening music.

Phil, I am shocked that you didn't know "I'm Gone" back in the 70s.

Both me and Tony Walker had this at Accy Legion.

Dave.

The old saying goes"Whats One Mans`Meat Is Another Mans`Poison".I think that is very apt for Soul Music-whatever your preference is.

Phil, I am shocked that you didn't know "I'm Gone" back in the 70s.

Both me and Tony Walker had this at Accy Legion.

Dave.

Someone I used to swap tapes with in the 90's, can't remember who, told me he bought the Eddie Parker on Awake at the Torch for a quid, they tried it and it never caught on for some reason...

As this is a a thread about overrated records, I'll add 2 of my own. A lot of people on here seen to rave about them, but I can't listen to them:- Rufus Lumley "Stronger Than Me", and Cajun Hart " Got To Find A way". I absolutely don't get them at all.

Paul

My fave record of all time. Great Intro's? how about an opening gambit - You destroy me!

It really does get on my t++s ! and has done for over 25 yrs , over rated is an understatement !!!!!

Jock was asking Matt earlier why he disliked mello Souls, and offered a few possibilities.

this record i used to love. I never owned one but loved hearing it, dancing to it, and everything about it.

25 years later i wonder what on earth possesed me? Maybe I heard it too much? I loved Epitome of Sound, until I heard it at about every do for 5 years straight. Sometimes 3 or 4 times a night.

or maybe it was rubbish all along, and my youthful exuberance was less critical, as long as I could cut a rug to the record.

Big Joe Turner - Two loves have I. Just perfect for a bit of Vic Reeves 'club style' frivolity .

Larry Clinton - She's wanted.... state 1 being monotonous, state 2 being repetetive, state 3 being

Edited July 24, 201212 yr by Stevie

Another two in my all time top 100, I think at one point I would have walked the length of the country to get a copy of Cajun hart.

I'd've walked the length of the country to avoid it, a load of Hippy tosh to me..

Tony

Bill Bush - "I'm Waiting" - yes Bill I am waiting for the day that record sounds good. Probably the day after hell freezes over !!!

However it is measurably better than the turd which is Julian Covey - "A Little Bit Hurt" - The sound of a vasectomy without an anesthetic would be more pleasing to my ears !!!

I'd've walked the length of the country to avoid it, a load of Hippy tosh to me..

Tony

So Tony, you have never stopped to watch a tree grow!

I would almost certainly have done so, but that was a while ago, so my mission over next few days will be to find that and come back on here with comments. I was being serious about a thread on sweet soul being interesting. To me anyway

Now you really are taking the pi**, visibility is about 3 yards here and its chucking it down, hence my mood matching Pete's!

That'll be the gin Jocko.

Someone I used to swap tapes with in the 90's, can't remember who, told me he bought the Eddie Parker on Awake at the Torch for a quid, they tried it and it never caught on for some reason...

Wow.Shocked if its true.!! Anyway,what's with the Johnny Caswell knockers?.....

Wow.Shocked if its true.!! Anyway,what's with the Johnny Caswell knockers?.....

This is all very vague now because it was 20 years ago but it might have been Graham Williamson. Is he still around?

So Tony, you have never stopped to watch a tree grow!

I stopped once to listen to Geoffrey Meteliko's version - very painful !!!

So Tony, you have never stopped to watch a tree grow!

Not on Durophet, I haven't

T

I stopped once to listen to Geoffrey Meteliko's version - very painful !!!

Thats got to be up there with the worst records ever made. I love it when people have it for sale and say "superb alternative version to cajun hart".

This is all very vague now because it was 20 years ago but it might have been Graham Williamson. Is he still around?

if you mean graham williamson from rotherham..sadly he died in 95 i think.... unless theres another one..our graham liked his uk stuff but i got some great usa stuff from him also

I never "got" this one : George Lemons - Fascinating girl.............

People like what they like and dislike what they don,t,thats fair enough what l can,t get my head round is back in the day when we were fed the most amount of pop sh*t and we loved it because we were out of our nuts and it wer,nt played anywhere else which kinda made it cool. Why oh why can some folk (quite a lot really) in the fullness of time not sort the wheat from the chaff.They seem to have this blind spot that says...".it was played at wigan so it,s good end of"....and subsequent quality soul that has been found is in a lot of cases dismissed as rubbish.......just don,t get it.......maybe thats why joey delorenzo and joe jamma were such big hits because they are poop records

p.s heres a perfect example FRANKY & JOHNNY.....if they ever moulded sh*t into record form this is it.....the bad sound of the sixties

Edited July 24, 201212 yr by gordon russell

People like what they like and dislike what they don,t,thats fair enough what l can,t get my head round is back in the day when we were fed the most amount of pop sh*t and we loved it because we were out of our nuts and it wer,nt played anywhere else which kinda made it cool. Why oh why can some folk (quite a lot really) in the fullness of time not sort the wheat from the chaff.They seem to have this blind spot that says...".it was played at wigan so it,s good end of"....and subsequent quality soul that has been found is in a lot of cases dismissed as rubbish.......just don,t get it.......maybe thats why joey delorenzo and joe jamma were such big hits because they are poop records

p.s heres a perfect example FRANKY & JOHNNY.....if they ever moulded sh*t into record form this is it.....the bad sound of the sixties

I think Frankie & Johnny is one of the best UK produced records of the entire 60's, not necessarily as a Soul or Northern Soul record, just as a record, it's stupendous. Why they put it on a B side I'll never know.

I think Frankie & Johnny is one of the best UK produced records of the entire 60's, not necessarily as a Soul or Northern Soul record, just as a record, it's stupendous. Why they put it on a B side I'll never know.

probably best you stay in then pete lol

probably best you stay in then pete lol

Could happily stay in and listen to that one over and over...

If you are referring to my comments about Eddie Parker I'm Gone,let me explain.

I think the record is average at best, FFS what has it got going for it other than its rarity ?.

Its just a big stomping record with little or no lyrical content, sweet FA in terms of melody or

production/arrangement.Billy Sha Rea's version is better.There are a 1000 and one records

that have been played on the scene that a miles better than it.

Kegsy (cant be arsed listing 1001 better records)

Can we have an un-like button? Everything about this post is wrong.

Whenever this topic comes around it's practically always the iconic records that get pot shots taken at them. Why not the vast number of mediocre filler records everyone's got in their collections bought in the expectation they'd be decent Northern?

90% of the records mentioned in this topic are actually great records. It's impossible to like them all but the ire is often misdirected because of a record's price tag, reputation or notoriety. George Pepp? Spellbinding. Frankie & Johnny? Magical. George Lemons? Strangely fascinating. I could go on.

Records which piss me off are the barrel-scrapings which often get touted on sales threads as being 'so right for now' etc. because they at last fit into a currently in-vogue sound or approach. I wouldn't mind if they were priced realistically but often they aren't.